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Re: negation operator
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description: Hi, On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, greg michael wrote: > This is odd... > > IDL> print,-100 > -90 < 90 > > print,-100 > -90 < 90 > ^ > Syntax error. > IDL> print,-100 > (-90) < 90 > -90 > > Is there any reason why a negation operator should ever come lower than > anything else? > > Greg > > yes, operator precedence. <, > and unary - has the same precedence in IDL, so they can not follow each other immediately. regards, lajos ps: in this respect I have followed the C precedence rules in FL, where unary + and - have higher precedence than * (multiplication). So in FL the above statements are correct and give the same result.
creator: Foldy Lajos
date: 2006-07-13T14:15:21-00:00

Re: negation operator
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description: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 06:31:18 -0700, greg michael wrote: > This is odd... > > IDL> print,-100 > -90 < 90 > > print,-100 > -90 < 90 > ^ > Syntax error. > IDL> print,-100 > (-90) < 90 > -90 > > Is there any reason why a negation operator should ever come lower than > anything else? You get the same problem with exponentiation, which is 2 steps up in the operator precedence chain (see http://www.dfanning.com/misc_tips/precedence.html). IDL> print, 2.^-2 print, 2.^-2 ^ % Syntax error. IDL> print, 2.^(-2) 0.250000 So it's not that fact that `-' shares precedence with '>', just that both are left-right associative, so you can't put two adjacent. This doesn't always hold though... for example, how about `++' (2nd highest precedence) and '~' (2nd to last precedence): IDL> a=1 IDL> print,~++a 0 but how about: IDL> print,~-a print,~-a ^ % Syntax error. This *should* work. Negation is priority 5, logical negation is priority 8, so it should evaluate -a first, and then ~(-a). Not sure if this should be considered a bug or just a weakness of the interpreter. JD
creator: JD Smith
date: 2006-07-13T16:17:20-00:00

Re: negation operator
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description: Hi, On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, JD Smith wrote: > IDL> a=1 > IDL> print,~++a > 0 > > but how about: > > IDL> print,~-a > > print,~-a > ^ > % Syntax error. > > This *should* work. Negation is priority 5, logical negation is > priority 8, so it should evaluate -a first, and then ~(-a). Not sure > if this should be considered a bug or just a weakness of the > interpreter. > well, this should work according to the documentation, but does not. I think this is a bug in the documentation, logical negation has the same precedence as bitwise negation and unary -. IDL/GDL/FL agree on this. regards, lajos
creator: Foldy Lajos
date: 2006-07-13T16:35:05-00:00

Re: negation operator
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description: Yes, you're right - I'd got used to the quirk with exponents. I've only just realised, though, that it appears to mean that there's no such thing as a negative constant in IDL. They're always calculated values. Maybe that's normal - I don't know. greg JD Smith wrote: > On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 06:31:18 -0700, greg michael wrote: > >> This is odd... >> >> IDL> print,-100 > -90 < 90 >> >> print,-100 > -90 < 90 >> ^ >> Syntax error. >> IDL> print,-100 > (-90) < 90 >> -90 >> >> Is there any reason why a negation operator should ever come lower than >> anything else? > > You get the same problem with exponentiation, which is 2 steps up in > the operator precedence chain (see > http://www.dfanning.com/misc_tips/precedence.html). > > IDL> print, 2.^-2 > > print, 2.^-2 > ^ > % Syntax error. > IDL> print, 2.^(-2) > 0.250000 > > So it's not that fact that `-' shares precedence with '>', just that > both are left-right associative, so you can't put two adjacent. This > doesn't always hold though... for example, how about `++' (2nd highest > precedence) and '~' (2nd to last precedence): > > IDL> a=1 > IDL> print,~++a > 0 > > but how about: > > IDL> print,~-a > > print,~-a > ^ > % Syntax error. > > This *should* work. Negation is priority 5, logical negation is > priority 8, so it should evaluate -a first, and then ~(-a). Not sure > if this should be considered a bug or just a weakness of the > interpreter. > > JD
creator: greg michael
date: 2006-07-14T15:02:02-00:00