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description: Messages from Usenet group comp.lang.idl-pvwave, compiled by Paulo Penteado
items: Curve Fitting Question
items: Otsu Threshold for Bimodal Data
items: Re: Otsu Threshold for Bimodal Data

Curve Fitting Question
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description: How about Otsu's method? Meant for images but works for any set of numbers. http://www.cis.rit.edu/~cnspci/media/software/otsu_threshold .pro If your numbers aren't integers, I'd multiply by 1000, round, run otsu, divide by 1000. That's assuming 3 sig figs are enough...
creator: cgguido
date: 2012-11-13T00:23:53-00:00

Otsu Threshold for Bimodal Data
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description: Gianguido Cianci writes in response to my question about finding an automatic way to locate the threshold that will separate a bimodal data set into two populations: > How about Otsu's method? Meant for images but works for any set of numbers. > > http://www.cis.rit.edu/~cnspci/media/software/otsu_threshold .pro > > If your numbers aren't integers, I'd multiply by 1000, round, run otsu, divide by 1000. That's assuming 3 sig figs are enough... The OTSU_THRESHOLD program Gianguido mentions above makes a number of undocumented assumptions that can cause problems in the real-world use of the program. In my first attempt at implementing this algorithm I inadvertently copied all those dangerous assumptions into my own cgOtsu_Threshold program. In particular, this Otsu_Threshold program assumes you are working with byte type images and that your binsize is 1. It returns erroneous thresholds if you are working with real data outside the range 0 to 255 or using bin sizes other than 1. Since I work with both these conditions often in effect, I needed a more robust algorithm. Today I found a great web page that allowed me to rebuild the algorithm from the ground floor up: http://www.labbookpages.co.uk/software/imgProc/otsuThreshold .html The new algorithm replicates the results of OTSU_Threshold for byte data with a binsize of 1, but it also works with real data of whatever data range and with different bin sizes. You can find the old program with a new algorithm here: http://www.idlcoyote.com/programs/cgotsu_threshold.pro Cheers, David -- David Fanning, Ph.D. Fanning Software Consulting, Inc. Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/ Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
creator: David Fanning
date: 2012-11-21T17:51:43-00:00

Re: Otsu Threshold for Bimodal Data
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description: David Fanning writes: > The OTSU_THRESHOLD program Gianguido mentions above makes > a number of undocumented assumptions that can cause problems > in the real-world use of the program. In my first attempt > at implementing this algorithm I inadvertently copied all > those dangerous assumptions into my own cgOtsu_Threshold > program. > > In particular, this Otsu_Threshold program assumes you > are working with byte type images and that your binsize > is 1. It returns erroneous thresholds if you are working with > real data outside the range 0 to 255 or using bin sizes > other than 1. > > Since I work with both these conditions often in effect, > I needed a more robust algorithm. Today I found a great > web page that allowed me to rebuild the algorithm from > the ground floor up. The new algorithm turned out to be not quite as robust as I expected it to be. But, good news, this turned out to be due to a faulty assumption on my part and not to a failure of the algorithm. In particular, the program was having problems dealing with integer data. My fault entirely. I assumed an equation I was using with the threshold values was converting the threshold values to floats. It was not. Once this problem was solved, the algorithm is again acting like a champ! http://www.idlcoyote.com/programs/cgotsu_threshold.pro Cheers, David -- David Fanning, Ph.D. Fanning Software Consulting, Inc. Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/ Sepore ma de ni thue. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
creator: David Fanning
date: 2012-11-24T17:20:47-00:00