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Colour maps overlaid on grey-scale (medical) images
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description: Hi, I would like to know how to display colour overlays on medical images. For example, an overlay of bloodflow rate superimposed (in hot body colour scale) on grey-scale images of the brain. At the moment, I am not able to do this without obliterating the information in the original image. Is it possible to overlay a colour map onto a grey-scale image without obliterating information in the grey-scale image ? ie: by making the colour overlay "transparent" to some degree ? Jason Jason A. Brookes, Rï¿½sonance Magnï¿½tique des Systï¿½mes Biologiques, UMR 5536 du CNRS/Universitï¿½ Victor Segalen Bordeaux 2, 146 ruï¿½ Lï¿½o Saignat, 33076 Bordeaux, France. Tel: +33 (0)5 57 57 10 83 Fax: +33 (0)5 56 96 13 41 E-mail: jason.brookes@rmsb.u-bordeaux2.fr
creator: Jason Brookes
date: 1999-03-11T08:00:00-00:00

Re: Colour maps overlaid on grey-scale (medical) images
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description: > I would like to know how to display colour overlays on medical images. > For example, an overlay of bloodflow rate superimposed (in hot body > colour scale) on grey-scale images of the brain. At the moment, I am not > able to do this without obliterating the information in the original > image. Is it possible to overlay a colour map onto a grey-scale image > without obliterating information in the grey-scale image ? ie: by making > the colour overlay "transparent" to some degree ? If you use 24-bit color, you can do this by direct manipulation of the RGB values of each pixel. Ken Bowman -- Kenneth P. Bowman, Professor 409-862-4060 Department of Meteorology 409-862-4466 fax Texas A&M University bowmanATcsrp.tamu.edu College Station, TX 77843-3150 Change the AT to @
creator: bowman
date: 1999-03-13T08:00:00-00:00

Re: Colour maps overlaid on grey-scale (medical) images
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description: > Is it possible to overlay a colour map onto a grey-scale image > without obliterating information in the grey-scale image ? ie: by making > the colour overlay "transparent" to some degree ? The way I understand your question, you want to blend together two images containing different types of information. I believe the easiest way to do this is by working in RGB "space" to blend the two images together into one image and then display the composite image. If you normally use colour tables, one simpleminded approach would be the following (assuming image1 and image2 are of equal size, and scaled to byte values match the available number of colours): ; load/modify your grayscale colour table "as usual" : ; Now, to read this colour table: tvlct,r,g,b,/get ; Form an RGB image from the byte-scaled image1 im1rgb = [[[r[image1]]],[[g[image1]]],[[b[image1]]]] ; Load/modify your "hot body colour scale" : ; Then we read it: tvlct,r,g,b,/get ; Form RGB image from image2 im2rgb = [[[r[image2]]],[[g[image2]]],[[b[image2]]]] ; Take the average of the two images (avoid byte overflow!) im = byte((fix(im1rgb) + fix(im2rgb))/2) ; Now the trick: Use color_quan to quantize the existing ; colors into one color table: im_out = COLOR_QUAN(im, 3, red, green, blue) ; Now, load the appropriate color table and display image. tvlct,red,green,blue tv,im_out A better/more flexible approach would be to make some kind of direct color coding formula based on the actual data to be shown, i.e: red_image = func_red(bloodflow,brain_image) grn_image = func_green(bloodflow,brain_image) blu_image = func_blue(bloodflow,brain_image) ;; Then: im = color_quan(red_image,grn_image,blu_image,r,g,b) tvlct,r,g,b tv,im But be warned: Finding good formulas for the final RGB color based on the input bloodflow/brain_image data can be quite a challenge! Best of luck. Stein Vidar
creator: steinhh
date: 1999-03-14T08:00:00-00:00

Re: Colour maps overlaid on grey-scale (medical) images
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description: Kenneth P. Bowman (bowman@null.tamu) writes: > If you use 24-bit color, you can do this by direct manipulation of the RGB > values of each pixel. Yes, well, I have tried this too, but I never seem to get results that are completely satisfactory to me. Do you have a simple example that shows us *how* to directly manipulate the RGB values? I've tried making one image the red channel and one the green, etc., but the composite image is not really what I want. I did fool around last week during one of those jet lag nights where I was wide awake at 2AM with using the alpha blending functionality of an object graphics image. This worked surprisingly well after I realized that the documentation was just *slightly* misleading, and that the image "color" could only come from a 24-bit image. If I have some time later this week I'll describe what I learned in the article on this subject on my web page. Cheers, David -- David Fanning, Ph.D. Fanning Software Consulting Phone: 970-221-0438 E-Mail: davidf@dfanning.com Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/ Toll-Free IDL Book Orders: 1-888-461-0155
creator: davidf
date: 1999-03-22T08:00:00-00:00

Re: Colour maps overlaid on grey-scale (medical) images
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description: davidf@dfanning.com (David Fanning) writes: > Kenneth P. Bowman (bowman@null.tamu) writes: > >> If you use 24-bit color, you can do this by direct manipulation of the RGB >> values of each pixel. > > Yes, well, I have tried this too, but I never seem to get > results that are completely satisfactory to me. Do you have > a simple example that shows us *how* to directly manipulate > the RGB values? I've tried making one image the red channel > and one the green, etc., but the composite image is not > really what I want. > > I did fool around last week during one of those jet lag > nights where I was wide awake at 2AM with using the alpha blending > functionality of an object graphics image. This worked > surprisingly well after I realized that the documentation > was just *slightly* misleading, and that the image "color" > could only come from a 24-bit image. > > If I have some time later this week I'll describe what > I learned in the article on this subject on my web page. > > Cheers, > > David > We have done this sort of thing here (JPL) with clouds over land/water, using the grayscale of the cloud image as a *mask* of the land/water image. I've found it easier to do this in HLS; this is a more natural way to think of the interaction of the cloud/land/water images. I did this in a completely ad-hoc manner, just trying to get something that looked good, but I think it could be put on a more rigorous footing by those more knowledgible in the matter at hand (medical imagery, in this case) than I. You can see an example of the method at http://haifung.jpl.nasa.gov/qs_htdocs/ Scroll to the bottom, to the 'goes overlay' section and pick one of the two pictures you find. If this interests you, drop me a line. whd
creator: Vapuser
date: 1999-03-23T08:00:00-00:00

Re: Colour maps overlaid on grey-scale (medical) images
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description: In article <MPG.115fe42a3c79ceeb989727@news.frii.com>, davidf@dfanning.com (David Fanning) wrote: > Do you have > a simple example that shows us *how* to directly manipulate > the RGB values? My thought was that one image (the 'base' image) is loaded into the 24-bit image as gray-scale. That is, with equal R, G, and B values. The other image is used to identify some pixels that should be colored. The R, G, and B values for those pixels are then changed to produce, say, a "red gray-scale" to indicate the parameter identified in the second image. Below is some code for a different kind of problem. I'm plotting points (with PLOTS) to represent two different quantities, a and and b, simultaneously, one coded by the red intensity and one be the green intensity. If both quantities are large, then the color should be yellow (R + G). If both are small, however, I want white not black, so that I can plot on a white background. ;a and b are in the range 0.0 to 1.0 np = N_ELEMENTS(a) ;Number of points to be plotted COLOR_CONVERT, BYTE(255.0*a), $ ;Convert red and green to HSV BYTE(255.0*b), REPLICATE(0.0, np), h, s, v, /RGB_HSV s = v ;Make background white instead of black v[*] = 1.0 ;Make background white instead of black COLOR_CONVERT, h, s, v, r, g, b, /HSV_RGB ;Convert HSV back to RGB point_color = COLOR_24(r, g, b) ;24-bit color for each point to be plotted The lesson here is that it is often easier to work in the HSV or HSL color models. (I prefer HSV - H represents the 'color', S is like the amount of that color pigment added into a can of white paint, and V controls the overall 'brightness' level between black and full illumination. If I remember the numerical values correctly (H, S, V) = (0, 128, 255) gives bright pink. Similar things would work with image pixel values. Ken -- Kenneth P. Bowman, Professor 409-862-4060 Department of Meteorology 409-862-4466 fax Texas A&M University bowmanATcsrp.tamu.edu College Station, TX 77843-3150 Change the AT to @
creator: bowman
date: 1999-03-25T08:00:00-00:00