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open windows with IDL on two monitors? [message #9987] Wed, 01 October 1997 00:00 Go to next message
alpha is currently offline  alpha
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Registered: September 1996
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Hello,

we have a multihead unix-system (two graphic-cards and
two monitors in one machine).

Now we start IDL 5.0 (say on host:0.0) and open the
first window on the same window without problems...

But how to manage to open a second window on host:0.1
within IDL?

any hint?

Hendrik

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Re: open windows with IDL on two monitors? [message #10063 is a reply to message #9987] Fri, 03 October 1997 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stein Vidar Hagfors H is currently offline  Stein Vidar Hagfors H
Messages: 32
Registered: May 1997
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Justin Baker wrote:
[..]
> Apparently, any IDL application with bitmap buttons will run perfectly
> well on screen 0, but it locks up on screen 1.

[I think Hendrik would like to know how you got this far...]

> We have encountered the exact same problem as this on our two headed
> workstations. The problem is due to a rather strange bug in IDL.
>
> Apparently, any IDL application with bitmap buttons will run perfectly
> well on screen 0, but it locks up on screen 1.

Are you sure it's IDL that's causing the problem (i.e., has RSI
acknowledged it as such?). If not, it would be nice to hear details
about the platforms/graphics cards etc... and whether everyone
has problems...

> The other problem we've noticed is that running IDL on a dual screen
> workstation ties up two IDL licenses. One for screen 0 and one for
> screen 1 - even for the same user.

Yuck - fraud!
I would complain bitterly to RSI about this. *One* prompt, *one*
licence.
No mucking about...after all, its *one* process. There might be some
mumbo-
jumbo in the licence agreement on running "on one screen", but that's a
matter of interpretation on what exactly is meant by "one screen".

> What happens when we move to workstations with 3 screens ?

Well, IDL starts costing three times as much....

Stein Vidar
Re: open windows with IDL on two monitors? [message #10065 is a reply to message #9987] Fri, 03 October 1997 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Matt Phelps is currently offline  Matt Phelps
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Registered: June 1997
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Stein Vidar Hagfors Haugan wrote:
>
> Justin Baker wrote:
> [..]
>> Apparently, any IDL application with bitmap buttons will run perfectly
>> well on screen 0, but it locks up on screen 1.
>
> [I think Hendrik would like to know how you got this far...]
>
>> We have encountered the exact same problem as this on our two headed
>> workstations. The problem is due to a rather strange bug in IDL.
>>
>> Apparently, any IDL application with bitmap buttons will run perfectly
>> well on screen 0, but it locks up on screen 1.
>
> Are you sure it's IDL that's causing the problem (i.e., has RSI
> acknowledged it as such?). If not, it would be nice to hear details
> about the platforms/graphics cards etc... and whether everyone
> has problems...
>

We had a problem on a dual-screen Sun (some X sync error... I forget)
Upgrading to 5.0.2 solved our problem. I'd recommend trying
that before proceeding further. It's a painless upgrade.

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Re: open windows with IDL on two monitors? [message #10068 is a reply to message #9987] Fri, 03 October 1997 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin Baker is currently offline  Justin Baker
Messages: 16
Registered: May 1995
Junior Member
> Hello,
>
> we have a multihead unix-system (two graphic-cards and
> two monitors in one machine).
>
> Now we start IDL 5.0 (say on host:0.0) and open the
> first window on the same window without problems...
>
> But how to manage to open a second window on host:0.1
> within IDL?
>
> any hint?
>
> Hendrik
>
> PS: greetings from panther to coyote..
>

Hendrik,

We have encountered the exact same problem as this on our two headed
workstations. The problem is due to a rather strange bug in IDL.

Apparently, any IDL application with bitmap buttons will run perfectly
well on screen 0, but it locks up on screen 1.

The solution:
1) Don't run your application on screen 0 !

2) Change your application so that the buttons have text labels instead
of bitmaps. This could even be done automatically inside your program by
looking at $DISPLAY and deciding when to use bitmaps and when to use
labels

3) Create your own "buttons" based on draw widgets. I think David
Fanning has some code to do this.

The other problem we've noticed is that running IDL on a dual screen
workstation ties up two IDL licenses. One for screen 0 and one for
screen 1 - even for the same user.
What happens when we move to workstations with 3 screens ?


Regards,
Justin.
Re: open windows with IDL on two monitors? [message #10132 is a reply to message #9987] Fri, 17 October 1997 00:00 Go to previous message
Stein Vidar Hagfors H is currently offline  Stein Vidar Hagfors H
Messages: 32
Registered: May 1997
Member
I should probably mention that I did get a mail from someone
at RSI about this problem, stating that:

1. Make sure to upgrade to 5.0.2 if you want to use
two screens.

2. Under 5.0.2 you still cannot use IDLDE on the non-default
screen, but this is/will be fixed in a future release.

3. The pixmap buttons on the non-default screen are still a
problem under 5.0.2, but this is/will be fixed as well.

He also mentioned that the "multiple licence problem" may be
related to the other problems (and that they may have been
fixed in 5.0.2 - anyone tried it?).

From the wording I take it that it's not their *policy* to
charge two licences for two screens showing the same IDL
process, so that makes me happy :-)

Stein Vidar
Re: open windows with IDL on two monitors? [message #10179 is a reply to message #9987] Tue, 07 October 1997 00:00 Go to previous message
Klaus Finkler AXET 1 is currently offline  Klaus Finkler AXET 1
Messages: 1
Registered: October 1997
Junior Member
Matt Phelps wrote:

>
> We had a problem on a dual-screen Sun (some X sync error... I forget)
> Upgrading to 5.0.2 solved our problem. I'd recommend trying
> that before proceeding further. It's a painless upgrade.

We upgraded to 5.0.2 and IDL started on the DISPLAY 0.1.
But if there is an application with pixmap buttons, the
system still hangs.

Because we only want to display images with IDL on our
"good" (high contrast) b/w-monitor, which was DISPLAY 0.1,
we changed the assignment in the openwin-command
(e.g. from openwin -dev /dev/cgthree0 right -dev /dev/vigfb0 left
to openwin -dev /dev/vigfb0 left -dev /dev/cgthree0 right)

Now our "good" b/w-monitor is DISPLAY 0.0 and we can use it for IDL.
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