| Re: when will RSI come out with a scaledDown version of IDL? [message #10394] |
Tue, 25 November 1997 00:00 |
davidf
Messages: 2866
Registered: September 1996
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Kelly Dean (dean@cira.colostate.edu) writes about his
experience with the IDL student version. And then he
says:
> The student version works great for building
> the GUI window with IDL widgets, plus I learn more about the object
> graphics. Many of Fanning's object graphics programs work with the IDL
> student version. (He should have a tag indicating the "Student Version
> Friendly" ones.)
I think the object graphics programs are, in general, "Student
Version Friendly". What I need (hint to RSI) are more "Student
Friendly" images in the IDL distribution. This would make it
much easier to write example programs.
> I not only learn more about orbital mechanics with my
> little project, but I also learn more about IDL and how to use it
> efficiently. Now I am ready to take Fanning's Advance IDL
> training course.
Well, *this* is good news. :-) And I'm ready to teach it. One
of my goals is to have a regional course schedule for next
year published soon. I'll let you know.
Cheers,
David
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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting
E-Mail: davidf@dfanning.com
Phone: 970-221-0438
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
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| Re: when will RSI come out with a scaledDown version of IDL? [message #10396 is a reply to message #10394] |
Tue, 25 November 1997 00:00  |
Kelly Dean
Messages: 92
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RSI provided me with a student version of IDL to evaluate. I do alot of
work with students dealing with satellite meteorology. At first, I disliked
the array size limits (256x256) and no support to work with HDF files. We
work with satellite image files that are 800x800, even 2560x2560. So the
student version of IDL would not be available for image processing, unless
you wanted to break the image up into a little pieces - something I didn't
want to show the students to do. Also, NASA provides many satellite
datasets for free in the HDF format. Many of these files would fall within
256x256 that the student can work with. So, we end up using free software
that reads the HDF files or create FORTRAN programs to work with the HDF
data for the students class projects. Basically, the student would have no
need to use IDL and their was no need to buy the student version.
However, after the student version sat on the shelf for a few months, I had
an idea and installed it on my home machine. I wanted to build my own
satellite tracking program to help me follow the NOAA polar satellites so I
know when one was near to capture the APT signal with my home built weather
receiver. To build such a widget application, I need something to display
some graphics on a GUI window. The student version works great for building
the GUI window with IDL widgets, plus I learn more about the object
graphics. Many of Fanning's object graphics programs work with the IDL
student version. (He should have a tag indicating the "Student Version
Friendly" ones.) I not only learn more about orbital mechanics with my
little project, but I also learn more about IDL and how to use it
efficiently. Now I am ready to take Fanning's Advance IDL training course.
Kelly
Jason Yutao Li wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I just took David Fanning's advanced IDL training course (I gave
> it 6 starts on a 5-star scale) and bought a copy of "Advanced IDL
> Programming" manual from RSI. I began to understand widget
> programming, object graphics. Now I am all fired up to do some
> serious IDL programming.
>
> But there is this, again, an age old problem !
>
> One of the selling points of widget programs is 'easy-to-use'.
> Presumably it is not just for the geeks, but for masses. Frankly, a
> full-blown IDL software is not cheap and most people just cannot
> afford it. Then what is the use of writing nice widget programs?
>
> Why can't RSI come up with a scaled-down version of IDL? I was thinking
> maybe the developers who have the full-blown version IDL can save and
> distribute IDL programs in a special format. For those who own a
> scaled-down version of IDL can run the program and produce useful
> outputs, but will not be able to do any development work. It
> shouldn't be that difficult for the smart folks at RSI.
>
> Why not let more people tab into the power of IDL, and RSI can make
> serious money at the same time?
>
> --
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
> Jason Y. Li | Tel : (301) 286-1029
> Climate and Radiation Branch | Fax : (301) 286-1759
> NASA Goddard Space Flight Center | WWW : http://climate.gsfc.nasa.gov
> Greenbelt, MD 20771, USA | Email: jyli@climate.gsfc.nasa.gov
> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------
> Beauty of style, harmony, grace and good rhythm depend on simplicity.
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| Re: when will RSI come out with a scaledDown version of IDL? [message #10415 is a reply to message #10394] |
Mon, 24 November 1997 00:00 |
davidf
Messages: 2866
Registered: September 1996
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Peter Suetterlin (pit@gollum.uni-sw.gwdg.de) writes:
> Isn't [the Student Version of IDL] constrained to 65000
> array elements? (I mean: total, not for one dimension)
The Student Version of IDL is constrained to arrays of no
larger than 65000 elements (256 x 256). Other limitations
include no SAVE files and no linking to other programs
(e.g. Call_External, et. al.). Other than that, all the
normal IDL things are available, including widgets.
It is also my understanding that this version is sold
*only* to students.
Cheers,
David
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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting
E-Mail: davidf@dfanning.com
Phone: 970-221-0438
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
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| Re: when will RSI come out with a scaledDown version of IDL? [message #10419 is a reply to message #10415] |
Mon, 24 November 1997 00:00 |
Michael Werger
Messages: 34
Registered: May 1997
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Jason Yutao Li wrote:
> Why can't RSI come up with a scaled-down version of IDL? I was thinking
> maybe the developers who have the full-blown version IDL can save and
> distribute IDL programs in a special format. For those who own a
> scaled-down version of IDL can run the program and produce useful
> outputs, but will not be able to do any development work. It
> shouldn't be that difficult for the smart folks at RSI.
>
> Why not let more people tab into the power of IDL, and RSI can make
> serious money at the same time?
>
>
the good "news":there is one already : the run time version of IDL which
is at least available for x86 systems -
the bad "news":
you have to purchase licenses also - and I think their are expensive
And I think this is more ore less a FAQ: you can save your program and
libraries and
variables via the SAVE command and restore it afterwards at run time.
--
Michael Werger ESA ESTEC & Praesepe B.V.
Astrophysics Division mwerger@estec.esa.nl
Postbus 299 http://astro.estec.esa.nl
2200 AG Noordwijk +31 71 565 3783 (Voice)
The Netherlands +31 71 565 4690 (FAX)
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Jason Yutao Li wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Why can't RSI come up with a scaled-down version
of IDL? I was thinking
<BR>maybe the developers who have the full-blown version IDL can save and
<BR>distribute IDL programs in a special format. For those who own
a
<BR>scaled-down version of IDL can run the program and produce useful
<BR>outputs, but will not be able to do any development work. It
<BR>shouldn't be that difficult for the smart folks at RSI.
<P>Why not let more people tab into the power of IDL, and RSI can make
<BR>serious money at the same time?
<BR>
<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE>
the good "news":there is one already : the run time version
of IDL which is at least available for x86 systems -
<BR>the bad "news":
<BR>you have to purchase licenses also - and I think
their are expensive
<BR>And I think this is more ore less a FAQ: you can save your program
and libraries and
<BR>variables via the SAVE command and restore it afterwards at run time.
<BR>
<PRE>--
Michael Werger & ;nbsp; & ;nbsp; & ;nbsp; ESA ESTEC & Praesepe B.V. &n bsp; &n bsp;
Astrophysics Division mwerger@estec.esa.nl
Postbus 299 <A HREF="http://astro.estec.esa.nl">http://astro.estec.esa.nl</A>
2200 AG Noordwijk +31 71 565 3783 (Voice)
The Netherlands +31 71 565 4690 (FAX)</PRE>
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