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Re: about moderation and comp.lang.idl* [message #11699] Thu, 07 May 1998 00:00
dlhopols is currently offline  dlhopols
Messages: 10
Registered: April 1998
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In article
<Pine.OSF.3.95.980506183704.6207A-100000@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it>#1/1,
Sebastiano Barbieri <nospam@ifctr.mi.cnr.it> wrote:

> If you close it, could one rename the ever-confusing comp.lang.idl-pvwave to
> comp.lang.idl ? I believe the majority of (RSI) IDL users, which are more
> than 100, would find that easy.

Hi All,
I'm familiar with PVWAVE but am currently working with IDL
(RSI Interactive Data Language) I read the comp.lang.idl-pvwave newsgroup
regularly. The number of new messages per day is reasonable, less than 10 on
average. (I use deja news to read messages) The address is a little awkward
but once I got used to the dash between idl-pvwave, it was no problem. I
do not see a need to change it now, nor do I feel it necessary to separate out
the PV-Wave users. The comp.lang.idl newsgroup looks like it has had some
mail from IDL/PVWAVE users, so there is some confusion. But
I think with a little searching, the relevent newsgroup can be found.
Rose




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Re: about moderation and comp.lang.idl* [message #11701 is a reply to message #11699] Wed, 06 May 1998 00:00 Go to previous message
Joe[2] is currently offline  Joe[2]
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> Somebody whose message I've just lost proposed to moderate comp.lang.idl,
> and somebody else reacted saying that one won't even reach the more than
100
> yes votes necessary to do it, because comp.lang.idl is virtually dead and
has
> less than 100 readers (I do not know whether it's true) and proposed to
close
> it.
>
> If you close it, could one rename the ever-confusing comp.lang.idl-pvwave
to
> comp.lang.idl ? I believe the majority of (RSI) IDL users, which are more
> than 100, would find that easy.


The problem is that IDL has a slightly more common translation to
Interface Definition Language and comp.lang.idl is taken by those
folks. We could always start a group under the alt... hierarchy, but
I doubt there is neither the need nor motivation to moderate or
close this group down.

JMZ
Re: about moderation and comp.lang.idl* [message #11702 is a reply to message #11701] Wed, 06 May 1998 00:00 Go to previous message
bowler is currently offline  bowler
Messages: 7
Registered: February 1998
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In article <6iqbds$bql$1@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca>, roberson@ibd.nrc.ca (Walter Roberson) writes:
> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95.980506183704.6207A-100000@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it>,
> Sebastiano Barbieri <nospam@ifctr.mi.cnr.it> wrote:
>
> :If you close it, could one rename the ever-confusing comp.lang.idl-pvwave to
> :comp.lang.idl ? I believe the majority of (RSI) IDL users, which are more
> :than 100, would find that easy.
>
> That would leave out the Visual Numerics PVWAVE users unless a new
> newsgroup such as comp.lang.pvwave were also created. It does not seem
> to me that volume of PVWAVE messages distinct from IDL messages would
> be high enough to warrant a split. As newsgroup votes are always held
> independantly, this could easily lead to a situation where
> comp.lang.idl-pvwave was renamed to comp.lang.idl but comp.lang.pvwave
> was rejected, which would leave the PVWAVE users with no newsgroup.

On the one hand, if they don't have enough use to warrant their own news group,
they shouldn't have their own news group. On the other hand, if the volume is
so low, does it really get in the way of IDL users? On the third hand (I grew
up near three mile island :-), if we rename it to comp.lang.idl and have the
charter "allow" pvwave questions, it will make it more "logical" for those of
us who use IDL but not pvwave without totally disenfranchizing the pvwave
users.

On balance, as an IDL user who can barely spell pvwave, I'd vote to change the
name, but let them stay.

Bruce
Re: about moderation and comp.lang.idl* [message #11703 is a reply to message #11701] Wed, 06 May 1998 00:00 Go to previous message
roberson is currently offline  roberson
Messages: 5
Registered: May 1998
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In article <Pine.OSF.3.95.980506183704.6207A-100000@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it>,
Sebastiano Barbieri <nospam@ifctr.mi.cnr.it> wrote:
:Somebody whose message I've just lost proposed to moderate comp.lang.idl,
:and somebody else reacted saying that one won't even reach the more than 100
:yes votes necessary to do it, because comp.lang.idl is virtually dead and has
:less than 100 readers (I do not know whether it's true) and proposed to close
:it.

I was the respondant. The previous exchanges can be found via
www.altavista.digital.com or www.dejanews.com .


:If you close it, could one rename the ever-confusing comp.lang.idl-pvwave to
:comp.lang.idl ? I believe the majority of (RSI) IDL users, which are more
:than 100, would find that easy.

That would leave out the Visual Numerics PVWAVE users unless a new
newsgroup such as comp.lang.pvwave were also created. It does not seem
to me that volume of PVWAVE messages distinct from IDL messages would
be high enough to warrant a split. As newsgroup votes are always held
independantly, this could easily lead to a situation where
comp.lang.idl-pvwave was renamed to comp.lang.idl but comp.lang.pvwave
was rejected, which would leave the PVWAVE users with no newsgroup.
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