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Q:Comparison IDL-PVWAVE [message #14834] Wed, 07 April 1999 00:00 Go to next message
Dr. Peter Wein is currently offline  Dr. Peter Wein
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Registered: April 1999
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Our development group is looking for a high level image processing
development tool. We found two products, IDL and PVWAVE, which looked
for us very similar. We know that they come from same origin. But what
we would like to know is, if there is really any significant difference
in both products in performance, features, GUI, etc. Maybe they have
their strength in different areas?
For us it would be very interesting to get information about the
difference of both tools. Maybe there exists test reports which compare
them. Also pointers to sources would be appreciated.

You can also send us directly a email:

peter.wein.pw@germany.agfa.com

Thanks a lot

Peter Wein
Re: Q:Comparison IDL-PVWAVE [message #14936 is a reply to message #14834] Mon, 12 April 1999 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
art.croucher is currently offline  art.croucher
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Registered: March 1995
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If the time your organization spends code and debugging costs you any money
at all, IDL provides tools to assist with the development and debugging
process. PV-Wave provides no tools and apparently thinks that Notepad and
the PRINT command is all the development support anybody should ever need.
As a result, our manpower costs are higher than they could be if we were
using IDL. If we were currently doing a lot of development, I'd beg RSI to
take us back.

(Truth is we use MATLAB for most of our current work, because MATLAB is the
most commonly used language in our field. )

Art Croucher
The Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab

David Fanning wrote:

> Dr. Peter Wein (wein@pcls01.fot.agfa.de) writes:
>
>> Our development group is looking for a high level image processing
>> development tool. We found two products, IDL and PVWAVE, which looked
>> for us very similar. We know that they come from same origin. But what
>> we would like to know is, if there is really any significant difference
>> in both products in performance, features, GUI, etc. Maybe they have
>> their strength in different areas?
>> For us it would be very interesting to get information about the
>> difference of both tools. Maybe there exists test reports which compare
>> them. Also pointers to sources would be appreciated.
>
> PV-WAVE doesn't have anything like objects, which are the
> most powerful programming tool introduced in IDL since
> widgets were introduced. I, frankly, don't know how I
> ever wrote a program without them. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting
> Phone: 970-221-0438 E-Mail: davidf@dfanning.com
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
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Re: Q:Comparison IDL-PVWAVE [message #14947 is a reply to message #14834] Sat, 10 April 1999 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
davidf is currently offline  davidf
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Registered: September 1996
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Dr. Peter Wein (wein@pcls01.fot.agfa.de) writes:

> Our development group is looking for a high level image processing
> development tool. We found two products, IDL and PVWAVE, which looked
> for us very similar. We know that they come from same origin. But what
> we would like to know is, if there is really any significant difference
> in both products in performance, features, GUI, etc. Maybe they have
> their strength in different areas?
> For us it would be very interesting to get information about the
> difference of both tools. Maybe there exists test reports which compare
> them. Also pointers to sources would be appreciated.

PV-WAVE doesn't have anything like objects, which are the
most powerful programming tool introduced in IDL since
widgets were introduced. I, frankly, don't know how I
ever wrote a program without them. :-)

Cheers,

David

--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting
Phone: 970-221-0438 E-Mail: davidf@dfanning.com
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Toll-Free IDL Book Orders: 1-888-461-0155
Re: Q:Comparison IDL-PVWAVE [message #15241 is a reply to message #14834] Fri, 07 May 1999 00:00 Go to previous message
lrnittler is currently offline  lrnittler
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Registered: May 1999
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In article <MPG.11791a8932c4e085989754@news.frii.com>,
davidf@dfanning.com (David Fanning) wrote:
> Dr. Peter Wein (wein@pcls01.fot.agfa.de) writes:
>
>> Our development group is looking for a high level image processing
>> development tool. We found two products, IDL and PVWAVE, which looked
>> for us very similar. We know that they come from same origin. But what
>> we would like to know is, if there is really any significant difference
>> in both products in performance, features, GUI, etc. Maybe they have
>> their strength in different areas?
>> For us it would be very interesting to get information about the
>> difference of both tools. Maybe there exists test reports which compare
>> them. Also pointers to sources would be appreciated.
>
> PV-WAVE doesn't have anything like objects, which are the
> most powerful programming tool introduced in IDL since
> widgets were introduced. I, frankly, don't know how I
> ever wrote a program without them. :-)
>

Sorry to only notice this discussion a month after the fact. Actually,
PV-WAVE indeed has "[something] like objects," in particular version 6.0
(circa 1996) introduced what VNI calls "VDA tools" and "graels" (graphical
elements) which seem similar to the object graphics in IDL 5.2. To be fair, I
haven't used the objects in either language, so I don't know how well they
compare. I do know that WAVE has had them at least as long as IDL, though. As
for the comparison, I have used PV-WAVE for years and only very recently
started using IDL as well. Widget programming in IDL is much eaier than in
PV-WAVE (in WAVE you need a separate callback procedure for each widget), but
I suspect you have more flexibility with widgets in WAVE. Overall, I have
found features in both languages I wish were present in the other. Finally,
WAVE does come with a debugger (wavedbg), at least on Unix.

Cheers,
Larry

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