| Re: IDL, Matlab, Mathematica, Maple... [message #19634] |
Tue, 11 April 2000 00:00 |
davidf
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Paul van Delst (pvandelst@ncep.noaa.gov) writes:
> paul "not-trying-to-start-and-IDL-vs-Matlab-thread" v
The proper way to handle this is to get a roll of duct
tape and have your office mate tape you to your chair
in such a way that your fingers can't reach the keyboard,
as I learned to my chagrin several weeks ago. :-(
Cheers,
David
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| Re: IDL, Matlab, Mathematica, Maple... [message #19635 is a reply to message #19634] |
Tue, 11 April 2000 00:00  |
Paul van Delst
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David McClain wrote:
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> IDL and MatLab are intrinsically numeric modeling languages - no symbolic
> capabilities.
Hmm. I really don't think of IDL as a numeric modelling language but a
tool to help me display data quickly. When I think of numerical analysis
I think Matlab (although I don't use it).
paul "not-trying-to-start-and-IDL-vs-Matlab-thread" v
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| Re: IDL, Matlab, Mathematica, Maple... [message #19637 is a reply to message #19634] |
Tue, 11 April 2000 00:00 |
marc schellens[1]
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Mirko Vukovic wrote:
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> In article <38EFE9C5.1C84B373@princeton.edu>,
> sangshim@princeton.edu wrote:
>> Dear Experts,
>> I don't think it is appropriate to ask this question here.
> But...
>> I have used IDL for my research (mostly fit and plot big
> datasets and
>> do numerical simulations) last 3 years and enjoyed a lot. Recently I
> am
>> interested in other math softwares but I cannot find information like
>> "which is good for which".
>> Would you compare IDL, Matlab, Mathematica, and Maple?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dan
>>
> (not being an expert), I recently checked the Matlab site. And you
> know, they talk about operator overloading there! I'd love that in IDL.
>
> As for symbolic software, I would love if someone could point me to some
> that makes equation manipulation easy. I don't care much for evaluating
> an integral or a derivative, but something that easily pulls a factor
> out of an expression and stuff like that would make me a happy person.
>
> Mirko
Cool. I predict that this will become one of the very long threads.
Being also not an expert I heard from experts in my group that mathlab
is better for
instantaneous use, while IDL is better for programming use.
Even though (a statement I wanted to give for a long time) I think IDL
is made from scientists for
scientists, as C++ for example is made from programmers for programmers.
cheers,
:-) marc
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| Re: IDL, Matlab, Mathematica, Maple... [message #19638 is a reply to message #19634] |
Mon, 10 April 2000 00:00 |
David McClain
Messages: 17
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IDL and MatLab are intrinsically numeric modeling languages - no symbolic
capabilities. Mathematica, Maple, Derive, Macsyma are symbolic languages
with very poor performance for numeric modeling.
But why give up one for the other? With Mathematica there is a Mathlink
connection to NML which is superior in performance to IDL. But if you don't
want to learn functional programming, you can also use IDL because there is
an RPC link from NML to IDL. That way you have the best of both worlds!
- DM
Sang-Heon Shim <sangshim@princeton.edu> wrote in message
news:38EFE9C5.1C84B373@princeton.edu...
> Dear Experts,
> I don't think it is appropriate to ask this question here. But...
> I have used IDL for my research (mostly fit and plot big datasets and
> do numerical simulations) last 3 years and enjoyed a lot. Recently I am
> interested in other math softwares but I cannot find information like
> "which is good for which".
> Would you compare IDL, Matlab, Mathematica, and Maple?
> Thanks.
>
> Dan
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| Re: IDL, Matlab, Mathematica, Maple... [message #19640 is a reply to message #19638] |
Mon, 10 April 2000 00:00 |
Brad Gom
Messages: 49
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Since I like avoid big expensive software packages whenever possible (except
IDL, sigh.), I can recommend 'Derive' (http://www.derive.com/derive.htm)
It is a compact program that handles algebraic and symbolic math quite well.
The last version I used was for DOS, but the interface was very useable.
There is a windows version now, I believe. They have academic pricing that
is very reasonable too. It isn't nearly as fancy as Matlab or other
packages, but it gets the math done.
good luck
Brad
Mirko Vukovic wrote:
> In article <38EFE9C5.1C84B373@princeton.edu>,
> sangshim@princeton.edu wrote:
>> Dear Experts,
>> I don't think it is appropriate to ask this question here.
> But...
>> I have used IDL for my research (mostly fit and plot big
> datasets and
>> do numerical simulations) last 3 years and enjoyed a lot. Recently I
> am
>> interested in other math softwares but I cannot find information like
>> "which is good for which".
>> Would you compare IDL, Matlab, Mathematica, and Maple?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Dan
>>
> (not being an expert), I recently checked the Matlab site. And you
> know, they talk about operator overloading there! I'd love that in IDL.
>
> As for symbolic software, I would love if someone could point me to some
> that makes equation manipulation easy. I don't care much for evaluating
> an integral or a derivative, but something that easily pulls a factor
> out of an expression and stuff like that would make me a happy person.
>
> Mirko
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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| Re: IDL, Matlab, Mathematica, Maple... [message #19643 is a reply to message #19638] |
Mon, 10 April 2000 00:00 |
Mirko Vukovic
Messages: 124
Registered: January 1996
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In article <38EFE9C5.1C84B373@princeton.edu>,
sangshim@princeton.edu wrote:
> Dear Experts,
> I don't think it is appropriate to ask this question here.
But...
> I have used IDL for my research (mostly fit and plot big
datasets and
> do numerical simulations) last 3 years and enjoyed a lot. Recently I
am
> interested in other math softwares but I cannot find information like
> "which is good for which".
> Would you compare IDL, Matlab, Mathematica, and Maple?
> Thanks.
>
> Dan
>
(not being an expert), I recently checked the Matlab site. And you
know, they talk about operator overloading there! I'd love that in IDL.
As for symbolic software, I would love if someone could point me to some
that makes equation manipulation easy. I don't care much for evaluating
an integral or a derivative, but something that easily pulls a factor
out of an expression and stuff like that would make me a happy person.
Mirko
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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