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Standalone executables (was Origin of IDL) [message #21489] Tue, 29 August 2000 00:00 Go to next message
Andy Loughe is currently offline  Andy Loughe
Messages: 174
Registered: November 1995
Senior Member
> I think we'll be ok. (Damn, I'm gonna get flamed for sure!)
>
> You certainly are, you forgot the compilation to fully standalone
> executables! ;-)

The closest we may ever get...


FROM RSI: Right to Distribute

Do you have IDL programs that you want to give or sell to others who
don't use IDL? If so, read on about the options Research Systems
provides for distributing IDL applications.

There are two distribution methods: IDL Runtime and the IDL
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If you want to distribute an application to many people, the Unlimited
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When your colleague or customer receives the application, they install
and run it, without any further validation.

For more information about distributing your IDL applications, contact
your Research Systems sales representative directly, or send email to
sales@rsinc.com.

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Re: Standalone executables (was Origin of IDL) [message #21650 is a reply to message #21489] Wed, 06 September 2000 13:41 Go to previous message
Harmonic Software is currently offline  Harmonic Software
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Registered: September 2000
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[This followup was posted to comp.lang.idl-pvwave and a copy was sent to
the cited author.]

If you want to be able to create royalty-free distributions
of your technical computing applications you might
check out the O-Matrix Developer version ...
http://www.omatrix.com/omdeveloper.htm

<39B5FA0C.2621AE14@dkrz.de>, martin.schultz@dkrz.de says...
> David Fanning wrote:
>>
>> [...] and the total cost can be arrived at
>> only after careful consideration of all the variables.
>> [...]
>
> Here is the most recent price quote from the German
> representative of RSI (Creaso):
> for each scalar variable (but not complex, pointer, or
> object): $ 0.02
> for each complex
> variable: $ 0.04
> for each 1-dimensional array not exceeding 65K
> elements: $ 0.05
> for each 2+ dimensional array not exceeding 65K
> elements: $ 0.08
> for each variable with more than 65K
> elements: $ 0.25
> for each pointer that gets freed
> later: $ 0.01 (1)
> for each pointer that needs a
> heap_gc: $ 2.80 (1)
> for each object:
> - $ 0.15 (2)
>
> All prices are per license, there is a reduction of 15% if you
> purchase more than 100 licenses. A base fee of $ 3.50 is added
> for each program unit regardless of it's use of variables.
>
> (1) please note that the data the pointer is pointing to must be
> purchased seperately
> (2) please note that the data stored in the object must be
> purchased seperately
>
> Regards,
> Martin
>
> PS: WARNING: This is a joke ! ;-)
>
>
>

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Re: Standalone executables (was Origin of IDL) [message #21658 is a reply to message #21489] Wed, 06 September 2000 12:00 Go to previous message
Andy Loughe is currently offline  Andy Loughe
Messages: 174
Registered: November 1995
Senior Member
Martin Schultz wrote:
>
> David Fanning wrote:
>>
>> [...] and the total cost can be arrived at
>> only after careful consideration of all the variables.
>> [...]
>
> Here is the most recent price quote from the German
> representative of RSI (Creaso):
> for each scalar variable (but not complex, pointer, or
> object): $ 0.02
> for each complex
> variable: $ 0.04
> for each 1-dimensional array not exceeding 65K
> elements: $ 0.05
> for each 2+ dimensional array not exceeding 65K
> elements: $ 0.08
> for each variable with more than 65K
> elements: $ 0.25
> for each pointer that gets freed
> later: $ 0.01 (1)
> for each pointer that needs a
> heap_gc: $ 2.80 (1)
> for each object:
> - $ 0.15 (2)
>
> All prices are per license, there is a reduction of 15% if you
> purchase more than 100 licenses. A base fee of $ 3.50 is added
> for each program unit regardless of it's use of variables.
>
> (1) please note that the data the pointer is pointing to must be
> purchased seperately
> (2) please note that the data stored in the object must be
> purchased seperately

Ok, we'll pack all input data into short integers, perform
only linear operations using our IDL standalone license, and
then unpack the data and display it using python and gnuplot.
This sounds wonderful, and think of all the money we'll save!

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Andrew Loughe =====================================================
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325 Broadway | wwweb: www-ad.fsl.noaa.gov/users/loughe
Boulder, CO 80305-3328 | phone: 303-497-6211 fax: 303-497-6301
Re: Standalone executables (was Origin of IDL) [message #21671 is a reply to message #21489] Wed, 06 September 2000 01:02 Go to previous message
Martin Schultz is currently offline  Martin Schultz
Messages: 515
Registered: August 1997
Senior Member
David Fanning wrote:
>
> and the total cost can be arrived at
> only after careful consideration of all the variables.
> [...][/color]

Here is the most recent price quote from the German
representative of RSI (Creaso):
for each scalar variable (but not complex, pointer, or
object): $ 0.02
for each complex
variable: $ 0.04
for each 1-dimensional array not exceeding 65K
elements: $ 0.05
for each 2+ dimensional array not exceeding 65K
elements: $ 0.08
for each variable with more than 65K
elements: $ 0.25
for each pointer that gets freed
later: $ 0.01 (1)
for each pointer that needs a
heap_gc: $ 2.80 (1)
for each object:
- $ 0.15 (2)

All prices are per license, there is a reduction of 15% if you
purchase more than 100 licenses. A base fee of $ 3.50 is added
for each program unit regardless of it's use of variables.

(1) please note that the data the pointer is pointing to must be
purchased seperately
(2) please note that the data stored in the object must be
purchased seperately

Regards,
Martin

PS: WARNING: This is a joke ! ;-)


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Re: Standalone executables (was Origin of IDL) [message #21673 is a reply to message #21489] Tue, 05 September 2000 16:20 Go to previous message
davidf is currently offline  davidf
Messages: 2866
Registered: September 1996
Senior Member
Hi Folks,

I wrote the other day:

> Uh, huh. And from what I hear, the Unlimited
> Right to Distribute license is only $50K per
> *version* of IDL.
>
> So, let's see, we'll forget about those cheapskates
> still using IDL 4. They can't be doing serious
> scientific work anyway. So 5.0, 5.1, 5.2, 5.3, and
> I probably want to really get rich with 5.4. So for
> only a quarter million dollars I can be distributing
> my IDL application world-wide.
>
> Or did I miss something? :-)

I'm commiserating with JD again about the lack
of a proper way to convey irony and sarcasm on
newsgroups. It's a problem. ;-^)

But just so you know, although the figure I quoted
was given to me by an RSI account representative, it
was at least six months old, and hence must be
considered wildly inaccurate. I urge you to
contact your own RSI account representative for
accurate figures.

It has been brought to my attention that each
application and distribution method is slightly
different, and the total cost can be arrived at
only after careful consideration of all the variables.
For most applications, apparently, it wouldn't cost
anything like a quarter million dollars to distribute.

Cheers,

David

P.S. Let's just say I didn't have my business plan worked
out well enough to be able to get an accurate quote for
my potential application. But I'll be working on it. ;-^)

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Fanning Software Consulting
Phone: 970-221-0438 E-Mail: davidf@dfanning.com
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
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