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Re: Dual Monitors on PC? [message #22377] Fri, 10 November 2000 00:00 Go to next message
Richard Younger is currently offline  Richard Younger
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Harvey Rarback wrote:
>
> Yes, you do. Windows 2000 supports multiple monitors. I used two until
> they took
> the second monitor away from me :-( The setup is trivial and effectively
> gives
> you a bigger screen. My X server Exceed can be configured to have multiple
> X
> screens or treat both screens together as one big screen.
>
> --Harvey

Second mistake for the day. Humble apologies.

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." -- I should have
looked a bit harder before speaking up.

In any case, did you use IDL with your multiple monitor system in the
native Windows? If you did, how were the results?

Rich
Re: Dual Monitors on PC? [message #22379 is a reply to message #22377] Fri, 10 November 2000 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Brian Jackel is currently offline  Brian Jackel
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Registered: January 1998
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According to the massive MSWindows 2000 Professional Resource Kit:

"Multiple monitors allows you to configure up to nine monitors so
that the Windows 2000 Professional desktop can be spread out over
their display areas. For each display you can adjust the position,
resolution, and color depth."

"Only the primary monitor in a multiple monitor configuration can
accelerate Direct 3D functions using the full capabilities of the
monitor"

Disclaimer: I'm running Win2kPro, but only with a single monitor.

Brian


"Pavel A. Romashkin" wrote:
>
> As far as I know, Windows 98 (maybe W 2000) is the only Windows
> supporting dual monitors. There is no way to set this up under NT or 95.
> In 98, I *think* it is the same as on a Mac - plug in another PCI video
> card and go. Running out of screen, huh? I just added a second 17" to my
> Mac. Lovely.
> Cheers,
> Pavel
Re: Dual Monitors on PC? [message #22382 is a reply to message #22377] Fri, 10 November 2000 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Harvey Rarback is currently offline  Harvey Rarback
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Registered: September 1998
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"Richard Younger" <younger@ll.mit.edu> wrote in message
news:3A0C35C4.4590908F@ll.mit.edu...
> "Pavel A. Romashkin" wrote:
>>
>> As far as I know, Windows 98 (maybe W 2000) is the only Windows
>> supporting dual monitors. There is no way to set this up under NT or 95.

>> David Fanning wrote:
>>>
>>> Has anyone ever seen IDL running on duel monitors
>>> on a PC? I've seen duel monitors on UNIX and I've
>>> seen it on Macs. But I've never seen it on PCs.
>>> Does anyone know if it is even possible? What
>>> graphics card?
>>
> I'm locked into NT myself, and I knew that NT doesn't support multiples,
> so I had just assumed that none of the Windows variants would have
> native support for dual monitors. But, I guess you're right that 98
> does. Go figure.
>
> I was curious so I checked the web, and MS among others has an article
> or two out on it, and you do have to tweak the settings a tad, so it
> isn't as drop-dead simple as on a Mac, but it doesn't look bad at all.
> They say they don't support all cards, so one might want to check if one
> doesn't have a common graphics card. While I was at it, I also checked
> to see if 2000 supports the same feature, and it doesn't look like it.
> For Windows, it's 98 or buy yourself a special card.
>
> Well, y'learn something new every day.

Yes, you do. Windows 2000 supports multiple monitors. I used two until
they took
the second monitor away from me :-( The setup is trivial and effectively
gives
you a bigger screen. My X server Exceed can be configured to have multiple
X
screens or treat both screens together as one big screen.

--Harvey
Re: Dual Monitors on PC? [message #22391 is a reply to message #22377] Fri, 10 November 2000 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Richard Younger is currently offline  Richard Younger
Messages: 43
Registered: November 2000
Member
"Pavel A. Romashkin" wrote:
>
> As far as I know, Windows 98 (maybe W 2000) is the only Windows
> supporting dual monitors. There is no way to set this up under NT or 95.
> In 98, I *think* it is the same as on a Mac - plug in another PCI video
> card and go. Running out of screen, huh? I just added a second 17" to my
> Mac. Lovely.
> Cheers,
> Pavel
>
> David Fanning wrote:
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Has anyone ever seen IDL running on duel monitors
>> on a PC? I've seen duel monitors on UNIX and I've
>> seen it on Macs. But I've never seen it on PCs.
>> Does anyone know if it is even possible? What
>> graphics card?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Davida

I'm locked into NT myself, and I knew that NT doesn't support multiples,
so I had just assumed that none of the Windows variants would have
native support for dual monitors. But, I guess you're right that 98
does. Go figure.

I was curious so I checked the web, and MS among others has an article
or two out on it, and you do have to tweak the settings a tad, so it
isn't as drop-dead simple as on a Mac, but it doesn't look bad at all.
They say they don't support all cards, so one might want to check if one
doesn't have a common graphics card. While I was at it, I also checked
to see if 2000 supports the same feature, and it doesn't look like it.
For Windows, it's 98 or buy yourself a special card.

Well, y'learn something new every day.

Rich
Re: Dual Monitors on PC? [message #22395 is a reply to message #22377] Fri, 10 November 2000 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pavel A. Romashkin is currently offline  Pavel A. Romashkin
Messages: 531
Registered: November 2000
Senior Member
As far as I know, Windows 98 (maybe W 2000) is the only Windows
supporting dual monitors. There is no way to set this up under NT or 95.
In 98, I *think* it is the same as on a Mac - plug in another PCI video
card and go. Running out of screen, huh? I just added a second 17" to my
Mac. Lovely.
Cheers,
Pavel

David Fanning wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> Has anyone ever seen IDL running on duel monitors
> on a PC? I've seen duel monitors on UNIX and I've
> seen it on Macs. But I've never seen it on PCs.
> Does anyone know if it is even possible? What
> graphics card?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Davida
Re: Dual Monitors on PC? [message #22444 is a reply to message #22377] Mon, 13 November 2000 00:00 Go to previous message
Pavel A. Romashkin is currently offline  Pavel A. Romashkin
Messages: 531
Registered: November 2000
Senior Member
Mark Rivers wrote:
>
> It is not true that you can't run dual monitors under NT 4.0.

All I tried to say is that, to the best of my knowledge, the only Wintel
OS that natively supports multiple monitors is 98, and maybe 2000. I am
sure all sorts of hardware are available to bypass the limitations of
any OS. Including, but not limited to, buying a video projector and
displaying IDL work on a wall, while running a small television window
in the corner with your favorite team's game.

It all depends on how expensive you want your second screen to be. If
your OS supports it natively, an 8 Mb accelerated PCI video card can be
bought for less than $10. Dual-monitor Matrox, on the other hand, costs
around $200.

Cheers,
Pavel
Re: Dual Monitors on PC? [message #22470 is a reply to message #22377] Sat, 11 November 2000 00:00 Go to previous message
Mark Rivers is currently offline  Mark Rivers
Messages: 49
Registered: February 2000
Member
Pavel A. Romashkin wrote in message <3A0C1A36.FE099071@noaa.gov>...
> As far as I know, Windows 98 (maybe W 2000) is the only Windows
> supporting dual monitors. There is no way to set this up under NT or 95.
> In 98, I *think* it is the same as on a Mac - plug in another PCI video
> card and go. Running out of screen, huh? I just added a second 17" to my
> Mac. Lovely.


It is not true that you can't run dual monitors under NT 4.0. We are doing
it, and IDL works fine with it. The limitation is that you have to buy a
graphics card which specifically supports it, but they are available. Since
I am not in front of the machine I can't tell you what model we have right
now. But it's very nice, the desktop is 3200x1280 I think.

Mark Rivers
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