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Re: Obscure IDL / sawfish window manager interactions [message #23108] Thu, 04 January 2001 14:24
Craig Markwardt is currently offline  Craig Markwardt
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Registered: November 1996
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I've never gotten (and still can't get) IDL draw windows to behave
properly under FVWM, my window manager. In my case, the window
manager gets very confused about the Z-order of the window.

I believe that the RSI web page has a knowledge tech tip about this,
but they claim that it's a bug in the window manager. That's strange,
every other window works fine, so I always wondered if it was a
problem with IDL.

Craig

Nathaniel Livesey <livesey@mls.jpl.nasa.gov> writes:


> Dear All,
>
> This is an interesting one. I'm running IDL 5.4 on a RedHat6.2
> machine with XFree v4.0.2, and the latest Helix-Gnome with the sawfish
> window manager. When ever I put up an IDL draw window, I cannot focus
> it or move it. The only thing I can do is to `shade' it (i.e. hide
> all but the title bar) using the gnome toolbar. Once I've done that I
> can unshade it and move it, until I write to it (e.g. am IDL plot
> command) from which point it's stuck again!
>
> This seems to happen also with IDL 5.3. However it does not happen
> if I create windows using the widget commands (even if all the widget
> contains is a draw widget). xwininfo doesn't seem to spot any
> difference between an ordinary draw window which doesn't work and a
> widget based one which does so that's no help.
>
> I've probably let myself into this by running the latest bleeding
> edge stuff I realise. It seems like some bizarre interaction between
> IDL and the window manager, what is IDL telling the window manager
> that should make it treat its windows any differently?
>
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nathaniel
>
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Re: Obscure IDL / sawfish window manager interactions [message #23109 is a reply to message #23108] Thu, 04 January 2001 14:15 Go to previous message
Kenneth Mankoff is currently offline  Kenneth Mankoff
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> This is an interesting one. I'm running IDL 5.4 on a RedHat6.2
> machine with XFree v4.0.2, and the latest Helix-Gnome with the sawfish
> window manager.

I'm running XFree v4.0.1a, Redhat 7.0, Default install gnome & sawfish,
and IDL 5.3.

> When ever I put up an IDL draw window, I cannot focus it or move it.
> The only thing I can do is to `shade' it (i.e. hide all but the title
> bar) using the gnome toolbar. Once I've done that I can unshade it and
> move it, until I write to it (e.g. am IDL plot command) from which point
> it's stuck again!

Go to your sawfish configurator (i access mine from inside the Gnome
Control Center). I'm going to tell you what options i have set for my
"focus" properties. I will list variable-names rather than the textual
descriptions.

To see all the options & the variable names:
Meta -> Expert
Miscellaneous -> Show Variable Names of Each Customization Option

now my focus configuration:
Focus ->ignore-window-input-hint
focus-click-through
focus-windows-when-mapped
transients-get-focus

The different window types & relationships between a program (IDL) and the
windows it spawns (dialogs, transients, options, etc...) is what I think
has caused your problem.

Hope this helps,
-ken.
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