| Re: An IDL STRTOK??? Was: TextoIDL Broken and Gone? [message #23312] |
Wed, 17 January 2001 08:45  |
Nick Bower
Messages: 43
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Nice pages - I did look at those originally. There are a couple of important
problems though.
You are distributing the separate routines, but have a broken link to the
tarball (the preferred method of downloading). So I missed the little "source
code" links in the separate routine pages, after finding the main download link
didn't work. How about tarring up those rouintes and providing a local link to
the tarball? :)
Most importantly however, some information is required on your page that states
you are distributing modified versions of the routines - they say v1.2 but they
*aren't*. I have the original version 1.2 distribution and it isn't the same
(mine has the strtok problem). Maybe call yours 1.21?
This is kinda important because I (and other new users) who are unfamiliar with
the strtok debacle will not know that the 1.2 distribution floating around is
different to yours, which contains renamed functions.
I didn't know the problem was strtok, so wasted 2 hours trying to read the code
for bugs. :-(
If we're worried about breaking the law here by first asking for Matt's
permission, well as far as i can see, the copyright doesn't belong to Matt
anyway. So since Joern is already distributing.... ;)
Craig - I saw your offer. Maybe if Joern doesn't want to fix up the versioning
you could and redistribute on your page?
cheers, nick.
Joern Wilms wrote:
> In article <onbst8eczg.fsf@cow.physics.wisc.edu>,
> Craig Markwardt <craigmnet@cow.physics.wisc.edu> wrote:
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>> davidf@dfanning.com (David Fanning) writes:
>>> Nick Bower (bowern@ses.curtin.edu.au) writes:
>>>
>>>> This really sucks and it's most unfortunate that such a well-known
>>>> package like this has been inadvertently clobbered without a hint of
>>>> documentation.
>>>
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> [snip]
>
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>> Yes, STRTOK was one of the things I mentioned in my rant a few days
>> ago. As I understand, STRTOK, was and is an undocumented built-in
>> function. And obviously, is incompatible with the version in
>> TextoIDL.
>>
>> I have done a little research. It does indeed seem that Mr. Craig's
>> host of TextoIDL, coma.berkeley.edu has gone off-line. I cannot find
>> him in the on-line UC Berkeley directory, and the Berekely whois
>> server does not respond. His web page is still up
>> (http://astron.berkeley.edu/~mcraig/). Apparently he's a real
>> kayaker.
>
> A while back I was in contact with Matthew Craig and we were allowed to host
> textoidl at
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> http://astro.uni-tuebingen.de/software/idl/textoidl/index.ht ml
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> I have not heard from him since, but the code on the web-page runs on 5.3
>
> Joern
>
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>> I would be glad to host TextoIDL on my web page. It can be
>> distributed without modifications no problem. However the terms of
>> redistribution forbid changes, so we couldn't fix the STRTOK problem.
>>
>> Is there anybody here from the UC Berkeley Astronomy department who
>> knows what happened to Mr. Craig? I have sent a note to his former
>> email address. We will see what happens.
>>
>> Craig
>>
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>> Craig B. Markwardt, Ph.D. EMAIL: craigmnet@cow.physics.wisc.edu
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> Dr. Joern Wilms Linsenbergstr. 33
> Univ. Tuebingen, Institute for Astronomy D-72074 Tuebingen
> Waldhaeuser Str. 64 (phone) +49 7071 29-76128
> D-72076 Tuebingen, Germany wilms@astro.uni-tuebingen.de
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| Re: An IDL STRTOK??? Was: TextoIDL Broken and Gone? [message #23321 is a reply to message #23312] |
Wed, 17 January 2001 02:37  |
wilms
Messages: 5
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In article <onbst8eczg.fsf@cow.physics.wisc.edu>,
Craig Markwardt <craigmnet@cow.physics.wisc.edu> wrote:
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> davidf@dfanning.com (David Fanning) writes:
>> Nick Bower (bowern@ses.curtin.edu.au) writes:
>>
>>> This really sucks and it's most unfortunate that such a well-known
>>> package like this has been inadvertently clobbered without a hint of
>>> documentation.
>>
[snip]
>
> Yes, STRTOK was one of the things I mentioned in my rant a few days
> ago. As I understand, STRTOK, was and is an undocumented built-in
> function. And obviously, is incompatible with the version in
> TextoIDL.
>
> I have done a little research. It does indeed seem that Mr. Craig's
> host of TextoIDL, coma.berkeley.edu has gone off-line. I cannot find
> him in the on-line UC Berkeley directory, and the Berekely whois
> server does not respond. His web page is still up
> (http://astron.berkeley.edu/~mcraig/). Apparently he's a real
> kayaker.
A while back I was in contact with Matthew Craig and we were allowed to host
textoidl at
http://astro.uni-tuebingen.de/software/idl/textoidl/index.ht ml
I have not heard from him since, but the code on the web-page runs on 5.3
Joern
>
> I would be glad to host TextoIDL on my web page. It can be
> distributed without modifications no problem. However the terms of
> redistribution forbid changes, so we couldn't fix the STRTOK problem.
>
> Is there anybody here from the UC Berkeley Astronomy department who
> knows what happened to Mr. Craig? I have sent a note to his former
> email address. We will see what happens.
>
> Craig
>
> --
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> Craig B. Markwardt, Ph.D. EMAIL: craigmnet@cow.physics.wisc.edu
> Astrophysics, IDL, Finance, Derivatives | Remove "net" for better response
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Dr. Joern Wilms Linsenbergstr. 33
Univ. Tuebingen, Institute for Astronomy D-72074 Tuebingen
Waldhaeuser Str. 64 (phone) +49 7071 29-76128
D-72076 Tuebingen, Germany wilms@astro.uni-tuebingen.de
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| Re: An IDL STRTOK??? Was: TextoIDL Broken and Gone? [message #23337 is a reply to message #23321] |
Tue, 16 January 2001 07:58 |
Nick Bower
Messages: 43
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thanks all - i ended up doing a global replace using sed in the textoidl
distribution, then not reading the copyright, illegally posted it to this
group. oops.
it just took me a few hours to work out that this was indeed the reason it
was not working and that i wasn't going insane. i shoulda searched deja
first...
nick
Craig Markwardt wrote:
> davidf@dfanning.com (David Fanning) writes:
>> Nick Bower (bowern@ses.curtin.edu.au) writes:
>>
>>> This really sucks and it's most unfortunate that such a well-known
>>> package like this has been inadvertently clobbered without a hint of
>>> documentation.
>>
>> I don't know about documentation, but I do recall now
>> a huge row about it here when IDL 5.3 first came out.
>> And I seem to remember RSI making some concessions
>> about how they name things. And I also, vaguely,
>> recall that this whole textoidl thing got sorted
>> out. Perhaps in the updated version you are looking
>> for. :-)
>
> Yes, STRTOK was one of the things I mentioned in my rant a few days
> ago. As I understand, STRTOK, was and is an undocumented built-in
> function. And obviously, is incompatible with the version in
> TextoIDL.
>
> I have done a little research. It does indeed seem that Mr. Craig's
> host of TextoIDL, coma.berkeley.edu has gone off-line. I cannot find
> him in the on-line UC Berkeley directory, and the Berekely whois
> server does not respond. His web page is still up
> (http://astron.berkeley.edu/~mcraig/). Apparently he's a real
> kayaker.
>
> I would be glad to host TextoIDL on my web page. It can be
> distributed without modifications no problem. However the terms of
> redistribution forbid changes, so we couldn't fix the STRTOK problem.
>
> Is there anybody here from the UC Berkeley Astronomy department who
> knows what happened to Mr. Craig? I have sent a note to his former
> email address. We will see what happens.
>
> Craig
>
> --
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> Craig B. Markwardt, Ph.D. EMAIL: craigmnet@cow.physics.wisc.edu
> Astrophysics, IDL, Finance, Derivatives | Remove "net" for better response
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| Re: An IDL STRTOK??? Was: TextoIDL Broken and Gone? [message #23354 is a reply to message #23337] |
Mon, 15 January 2001 13:12 |
Craig Markwardt
Messages: 1869
Registered: November 1996
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davidf@dfanning.com (David Fanning) writes:
> Nick Bower (bowern@ses.curtin.edu.au) writes:
>
>> This really sucks and it's most unfortunate that such a well-known
>> package like this has been inadvertently clobbered without a hint of
>> documentation.
>
> I don't know about documentation, but I do recall now
> a huge row about it here when IDL 5.3 first came out.
> And I seem to remember RSI making some concessions
> about how they name things. And I also, vaguely,
> recall that this whole textoidl thing got sorted
> out. Perhaps in the updated version you are looking
> for. :-)
Yes, STRTOK was one of the things I mentioned in my rant a few days
ago. As I understand, STRTOK, was and is an undocumented built-in
function. And obviously, is incompatible with the version in
TextoIDL.
I have done a little research. It does indeed seem that Mr. Craig's
host of TextoIDL, coma.berkeley.edu has gone off-line. I cannot find
him in the on-line UC Berkeley directory, and the Berekely whois
server does not respond. His web page is still up
(http://astron.berkeley.edu/~mcraig/). Apparently he's a real
kayaker.
I would be glad to host TextoIDL on my web page. It can be
distributed without modifications no problem. However the terms of
redistribution forbid changes, so we couldn't fix the STRTOK problem.
Is there anybody here from the UC Berkeley Astronomy department who
knows what happened to Mr. Craig? I have sent a note to his former
email address. We will see what happens.
Craig
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| Re: An IDL STRTOK??? Was: TextoIDL Broken and Gone? [message #23358 is a reply to message #23354] |
Mon, 15 January 2001 08:57 |
davidf
Messages: 2866
Registered: September 1996
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Nick Bower (bowern@ses.curtin.edu.au) writes:
> This really sucks and it's most unfortunate that such a well-known
> package like this has been inadvertently clobbered without a hint of
> documentation.
I don't know about documentation, but I do recall now
a huge row about it here when IDL 5.3 first came out.
And I seem to remember RSI making some concessions
about how they name things. And I also, vaguely,
recall that this whole textoidl thing got sorted
out. Perhaps in the updated version you are looking
for. :-)
It's a semi-holiday here in the US. Perhaps everyone
will be back to work tomorrow.
Cheers,
David
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