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IDL vs. matlab [message #24496] Tue, 03 April 2001 14:18 Go to next message
Bruno is currently offline  Bruno
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Just want to get the group's opinion regarding this. I am an undergrad and I
am thinking about buying IDL or MATLAB (student version). Most of my friends
are advising for the latter software product since it's apparently more
powerful and widely available on university systems. What do you think?

Thanks
Bruno
Re: IDL vs. matlab [message #24699 is a reply to message #24496] Tue, 17 April 2001 01:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hcp is currently offline  hcp
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In article <onu23sbyqj.fsf@cow.physics.wisc.edu>, Craig Markwardt <craigmnet@cow.physics.wisc.edu> writes:
|>
|> Aaron Birenboim <aaron@shimi.swcp.com> writes:
|> > Frankly, as a student, I'd give some pretty serious consideration
|> > to ANA.
|> Another IDL-like program is Yorick.
|> ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/languages/yorick/yorick-ad.html

I have a list of free alternatives to IDL at

http://www.met.ed.ac.uk/~hcp/idletc.html

Further suggestions welcome.

All the best

Hugh

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Re: IDL vs. matlab [message #24718 is a reply to message #24496] Sat, 14 April 2001 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc schellens[1] is currently offline  marc schellens[1]
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thanks!
marc
Re: IDL vs. matlab [message #24733 is a reply to message #24496] Fri, 13 April 2001 08:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig Markwardt is currently offline  Craig Markwardt
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Aaron Birenboim <aaron@shimi.swcp.com> writes:
> Frankly, as a student, I'd give some pretty serious consideration
> to ANA. Its an minimal-functionality IDL-like OPen source
> project. I'd like to see it take off, so I can stop messing
> with IDL. Last I checked there, it needed a good
> LINKNLOAD/CALL_EXTERNAL function so that people could more
> easily start attaching modules for extended functions...
> like complex numerical methods and GUI's.

Another IDL-like program is Yorick.

ftp://wuarchive.wustl.edu/languages/yorick/yorick-ad.html

I believe it is a little more optimized than ANA, and has lots of
great array indexing methods. I think the reason these�"similar"
languages don't take off is that there's no established code base like
the Astronomy Library for IDL. They would need a translator or a
compatibility mode.

Craig

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Re: IDL vs. matlab [message #24737 is a reply to message #24496] Fri, 13 April 2001 02:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ivan Zimine is currently offline  Ivan Zimine
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Marc Schellens wrote:
> Do you have an URL for that ANA?

http://ana.lmsal.com/
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Re: IDL vs. matlab [message #24739 is a reply to message #24496] Thu, 12 April 2001 20:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
marc schellens[1] is currently offline  marc schellens[1]
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Aaron Birenboim wrote:
>
> Frankly, as a student, I'd give some pretty serious consideration
> to ANA. Its an minimal-functionality IDL-like OPen source
> project. I'd like to see it take off, so I can stop messing
> with IDL. Last I checked there, it needed a good
> LINKNLOAD/CALL_EXTERNAL function so that people could more
> easily start attaching modules for extended functions...
> like complex numerical methods and GUI's.
>
Do you have an URL for that ANA?
thanks,
marc
Re: IDL vs. matlab [message #24745 is a reply to message #24496] Thu, 12 April 2001 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Aaron Birenboim is currently offline  Aaron Birenboim
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Bruno <bruno_dubois@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Just want to get the group's opinion regarding this. I am an undergrad and I
: am thinking about buying IDL or MATLAB (student version). Most of my friends
: are advising for the latter software product since it's apparently more
: powerful and widely available on university systems. What do you think?

Depends on the discipline. What do your peers in the field
use? I'm an EE. MatLab is the most common. Especially
for the controls folks who like simulink. Some of the DSP guys
are gravitating toward MatLAb too.

Much of the Image processing (Especially Hyperspectral) community
and Physicists seem to be using IDL.

It depends on what you want. MatLab was slow to get basic
programming constructs into its language (like structs...)
IDL has been strong here. Does MatLab allows arrays
of greater dimension than 2? If so, its a recent development.
Hence the historical prefrence for IDL with video processors.

Also... MatLab used to re-interpret routines every time they
are run. Have they gone to a pre-compiled or VM-like solution
like IDL yet? Without this ability, lots of MatLab stuff
could run VERY SLOWLY, as it re-interprets subroutines
millions of times in a loop.

As it stands, I think IDL is more expensive... but it bundles
many things that cost more on MatLab. It starts with
some numerical recipies routines i think, it has the
ability to call C (without a $900 extension last time I checked
MatLab)

Frankly, as a student, I'd give some pretty serious consideration
to ANA. Its an minimal-functionality IDL-like OPen source
project. I'd like to see it take off, so I can stop messing
with IDL. Last I checked there, it needed a good
LINKNLOAD/CALL_EXTERNAL function so that people could more
easily start attaching modules for extended functions...
like complex numerical methods and GUI's.

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Re: IDL vs. matlab [message #24861 is a reply to message #24739] Tue, 24 April 2001 09:09 Go to previous message
Aaron Birenboim is currently offline  Aaron Birenboim
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Marc Schellens <m_schellens@hotmail.com> wrote:
: Aaron Birenboim wrote:
:>
:> Frankly, as a student, I'd give some pretty serious consideration
:> to ANA. Its an minimal-functionality IDL-like OPen source
:> project. I'd like to see it take off, so I can stop messing
:> with IDL. Last I checked there, it needed a good
:> LINKNLOAD/CALL_EXTERNAL function so that people could more
:> easily start attaching modules for extended functions...
:> like complex numerical methods and GUI's.
:>
: Do you have an URL for that ANA?
: thanks,

http://ana.lmsal.com

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