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Re: Specific cross platform IDL problem... [message #25329] Thu, 07 June 2001 08:12 Go to next message
Guillaume Dargaud is currently offline  Guillaume Dargaud
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Registered: January 2001
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> I'd submit a bug report to Tenon regarding the display problems using
> their software to remotely run idlde. I use IDL in the terminal on my OS
I did and they are looking into it but don't have a clue so far. But I was
wondering if IDL relies on special window characteristics you guys might
know of...

> With regard to the OS X version of IDL, I contacted Kodak a month ago and
> was told that the new OS X version would (a) maintain the nice mac
> interface and (b) use native unix as the underlying OS. Unfortunately,
> this constitutes as major undertaking so there is no release date as of
> yet...
Could be an option for later. More licenses to get...
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Guillaume Dargaud
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building animal, a political animal, a fantasizing animal. But, in the
twilight of a civilization he is chiefly a taxpaying animal." - Hugh
MacLennan.
Re: Specific cross platform IDL problem... [message #25332 is a reply to message #25329] Thu, 07 June 2001 01:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Randall Skelton is currently offline  Randall Skelton
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Registered: October 2000
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I'd submit a bug report to Tenon regarding the display problems using
their software to remotely run idlde. I use IDL in the terminal on my OS
X machine using Xtools and have experienced similar problems when using
the IDL help browser and idlde remotely from Linux/OSF. Plotting and
using the idl command line in an Xtools xterm is *mostly* stable on my
powerbook. I have never had problems using exceed (windows), xwin-32
(windows) or exodus (mac) to run idl before so I suspect the problem is
with the Tenon software.

With regard to the OS X version of IDL, I contacted Kodak a month ago and
was told that the new OS X version would (a) maintain the nice mac
interface and (b) use native unix as the underlying OS. Unfortunately,
this constitutes as major undertaking so there is no release date as of
yet...

Cheers,
Randall

On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Pavel A. Romashkin wrote:

> Not helpful advice:
>
> I suggest running IDL on the superior platform of the two that you have
> available, namely on the Mac :-) Fast, no freezes and "Window" does what
> it is supposed to. BTW, we did test a SGI vs G4 and obtained results
> that are very, very close. Processing tests ran identically, and drive
> performance was very close, too. Once there's a native OSX port of IDL,
> even I will put OSX on my Mac.
>
> Cheers,
> Pavel
>
> Guillaume Dargaud wrote:
>>
>> OK, this is highly platform specific...
>> I use a Mac running OS-X as an X-windows client (using Xtools from Tenon) to
>> an SGI machine.
>> When using IDL (or IDLDE), the "window" command is supposed to open a new
>> window. It just hangs when run in Xtools. I don't know what's specific about
>> those windows, but I get tons of "X window protocol error: BadValue" in the
>> console when starting IDL.
>>
>> Opening other X-windows do not cause problems; and if I use another
>> X-windows manager (twm or WindowMaker in XDarwin) IDL works.
>>
>> Any clue ?
>> --
>> Guillaume Dargaud
>
Re: Specific cross platform IDL problem... [message #25333 is a reply to message #25332] Wed, 06 June 2001 15:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pavel A. Romashkin is currently offline  Pavel A. Romashkin
Messages: 531
Registered: November 2000
Senior Member
Not helpful advice:

I suggest running IDL on the superior platform of the two that you have
available, namely on the Mac :-) Fast, no freezes and "Window" does what
it is supposed to. BTW, we did test a SGI vs G4 and obtained results
that are very, very close. Processing tests ran identically, and drive
performance was very close, too. Once there's a native OSX port of IDL,
even I will put OSX on my Mac.

Cheers,
Pavel

Guillaume Dargaud wrote:
>
> OK, this is highly platform specific...
> I use a Mac running OS-X as an X-windows client (using Xtools from Tenon) to
> an SGI machine.
> When using IDL (or IDLDE), the "window" command is supposed to open a new
> window. It just hangs when run in Xtools. I don't know what's specific about
> those windows, but I get tons of "X window protocol error: BadValue" in the
> console when starting IDL.
>
> Opening other X-windows do not cause problems; and if I use another
> X-windows manager (twm or WindowMaker in XDarwin) IDL works.
>
> Any clue ?
> --
> Guillaume Dargaud
Re: Specific cross platform IDL problem... [message #25424 is a reply to message #25329] Thu, 07 June 2001 09:39 Go to previous message
John-David T. Smith is currently offline  John-David T. Smith
Messages: 384
Registered: January 2000
Senior Member
Guillaume Dargaud wrote:
>
>> I'd submit a bug report to Tenon regarding the display problems using
>> their software to remotely run idlde. I use IDL in the terminal on my OS
> I did and they are looking into it but don't have a clue so far. But I was
> wondering if IDL relies on special window characteristics you guys might
> know of...

I have also been told a command line version will be available, leaving
room for Emacs+IDLWAVE under MacOSX.

>> With regard to the OS X version of IDL, I contacted Kodak a month ago and
>> was told that the new OS X version would (a) maintain the nice mac
>> interface and (b) use native unix as the underlying OS. Unfortunately,
>> this constitutes as major undertaking so there is no release date as of
>> yet...
> Could be an option for later. More licenses to get...

I presume RSI will finally bring Macs on an equal license footing, and
let them access a floating license server, the same way Unix & Windows
can currently. This is very convenient, since Windows/Linux machines
only check out 6 licenses to the 10 licenses Solaris/etc. consume. I
suspect Macs would also use 6.

JD
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