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Re: google search postings [message #25375] Tue, 12 June 2001 12:34 Go to next message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
Messages: 1424
Registered: November 1998
Senior Member
Craig Markwardt wrote:
>
> Reimar Bauer <r.bauer@fz-juelich.de> writes:
>> Hi,
>>
>> did someone have more experience with this newsgroup search machine.
>> In the past I have often used dejanews. Are there differences between
>> booth.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=plot&as_ugroup=comp .lang.idl-pvwave
>
> I have a related question. For the past few months I have been
> hosting a (partial) archive of the newsgroup on my web pages. Now
> that Google is back on line with archives, much of the reason for my
> own archive have evaporated. On the balance, Google is more complete
> and easier to use. Also my archive won't continue to scale up into
> the future.
>
> Question: are there any objections to my taking down the page? Or,
> some way to make it "better" than Google in some way? [ I almost
> prefer to take down the page vs. mothballing it. Right now I get a
> lot of pretty superfluous Google hits. ]

Dear Craig,


I do not very often search by the google search or your archive. I
normally
spent a few minutes per day reading this newsgroup articles and
sometimes
I am able to help someone. The most interesting things I have stored
to a local mail folder. The oldest one is from David Fanning followed by
Phil Williams in 1996. In the past and till now I have stored these
mails myself because I am not sure if deja or google will stay alive all
the time I plan working with idl.

Someone else who is not regulary reading this famous newsgroup or an
idl beginners needs each help he or she can get. If someone has a
problem
he or she can search a big library of questions and answers and I
believe
a lot of people are interested in reading archives.

As David did preparing requests into tips is very useful for all of us.
This is the right way to organize an archive but it takes a lot of time.
And this is the answer of your question too.

I will not demand that's you have to organize your archive in this way
until I am myself are able to do the same.



best wishes

Reimar


--
Reimar Bauer

Institut fuer Stratosphaerische Chemie (ICG-1)
Forschungszentrum Juelich
email: R.Bauer@fz-juelich.de
http://www.fz-juelich.de/icg/icg1/
============================================================ ======
a IDL library at ForschungsZentrum Juelich
http://www.fz-juelich.de/icg/icg1/idl_icglib/idl_lib_intro.h tml

http://www.fz-juelich.de/zb/text/publikation/juel3786.html
============================================================ ======

read something about linux / windows
http://www.suse.de/de/news/hotnews/MS.html
Re: google search postings [message #25381 is a reply to message #25375] Mon, 11 June 2001 23:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
Messages: 1424
Registered: November 1998
Senior Member
Stein Vidar Hagfors Haugan wrote:
>
> Reimar Bauer <r.bauer@fz-juelich.de> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> did someone have more experience with this newsgroup search machine.
>> In the past I have often used dejanews. Are there differences between
>> booth.
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=plot&as_ugroup=comp .lang.idl-pvwave
>
> Ahh... Thanks for pointing this out.. Gave me a chance to go back to the
> "really old days", and I found an old "IDL wish list" I wrote in 1995 (along
> the lines of the "top ten wishes for IDL in the next release"):
>
> 1. Pointers that work like *real* pointers (Check!)
> 2. A coherent way of deciding the result dimensions in indexed operations
> (nope!)
> 3. Possibility of Macros (nope!)

I would say (Check!). If you are using idlde you can use idl macros.
I have some written e.g. export_html,%s,name=%_'%s%_'

> 4. Possibility of having widget applications + command line available
> at the same time (like the help facility) (check - well, almost, they
> don't work without retalls)
> 5. Different brackets for array subscripts and function calls (check!)
> 6. A portable pseudo-language to produce true *compiled* subroutines
> (nope)
>
> So, 2 1/2 out of 6 isn't that bad.. David, do you do recycling?
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------
> Stein Vidar Hagfors Haugan
> ESA SOHO SOC/European Space Agency Science Operations Coordinator for SOHO
>
> NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Email: shaugan@esa.nascom.nasa.gov
> Mail Code 682.3, Bld. 26, Room G-1, Tel.: 1-301-286-9028/240-354-6066
> Greenbelt, Maryland 20771, USA. Fax: 1-301-286-0264
> ------------------------------------------------------------ --------------

--
Reimar Bauer

Institut fuer Stratosphaerische Chemie (ICG-1)
Forschungszentrum Juelich
email: R.Bauer@fz-juelich.de
http://www.fz-juelich.de/icg/icg1/
============================================================ ======
a IDL library at ForschungsZentrum Juelich
http://www.fz-juelich.de/icg/icg1/idl_icglib/idl_lib_intro.h tml

http://www.fz-juelich.de/zb/text/publikation/juel3786.html
============================================================ ======

read something about linux / windows
http://www.suse.de/de/news/hotnews/MS.html
Re: google search postings [message #25386 is a reply to message #25381] Mon, 11 June 2001 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig Markwardt is currently offline  Craig Markwardt
Messages: 1869
Registered: November 1996
Senior Member
Reimar Bauer <r.bauer@fz-juelich.de> writes:
> Hi,
>
> did someone have more experience with this newsgroup search machine.
> In the past I have often used dejanews. Are there differences between
> booth.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=plot&as_ugroup=comp .lang.idl-pvwave

I have a related question. For the past few months I have been
hosting a (partial) archive of the newsgroup on my web pages. Now
that Google is back on line with archives, much of the reason for my
own archive have evaporated. On the balance, Google is more complete
and easier to use. Also my archive won't continue to scale up into
the future.

Question: are there any objections to my taking down the page? Or,
some way to make it "better" than Google in some way? [ I almost
prefer to take down the page vs. mothballing it. Right now I get a
lot of pretty superfluous Google hits. ]

Craig

Archive is here:
http://cow.physics.wisc.edu/~craigm/idl/newsgroup.html

--
------------------------------------------------------------ --------------
Craig B. Markwardt, Ph.D. EMAIL: craigmnet@cow.physics.wisc.edu
Astrophysics, IDL, Finance, Derivatives | Remove "net" for better response
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Re: google search postings [message #25390 is a reply to message #25386] Mon, 11 June 2001 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Stein Vidar Hagfors H[1] is currently offline  Stein Vidar Hagfors H[1]
Messages: 56
Registered: February 2000
Member
Reimar Bauer <r.bauer@fz-juelich.de> writes:

> Hi,
>
> did someone have more experience with this newsgroup search machine.
> In the past I have often used dejanews. Are there differences between
> booth.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=plot&as_ugroup=comp .lang.idl-pvwave

Ahh... Thanks for pointing this out.. Gave me a chance to go back to the
"really old days", and I found an old "IDL wish list" I wrote in 1995 (along
the lines of the "top ten wishes for IDL in the next release"):

1. Pointers that work like *real* pointers (Check!)
2. A coherent way of deciding the result dimensions in indexed operations
(nope!)
3. Possibility of Macros (nope!)
4. Possibility of having widget applications + command line available
at the same time (like the help facility) (check - well, almost, they
don't work without retalls)
5. Different brackets for array subscripts and function calls (check!)
6. A portable pseudo-language to produce true *compiled* subroutines
(nope)

So, 2 1/2 out of 6 isn't that bad.. David, do you do recycling?

--
------------------------------------------------------------ --------------
Stein Vidar Hagfors Haugan
ESA SOHO SOC/European Space Agency Science Operations Coordinator for SOHO

NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Email: shaugan@esa.nascom.nasa.gov
Mail Code 682.3, Bld. 26, Room G-1, Tel.: 1-301-286-9028/240-354-6066
Greenbelt, Maryland 20771, USA. Fax: 1-301-286-0264
------------------------------------------------------------ --------------
Re: google search postings [message #25394 is a reply to message #25390] Mon, 11 June 2001 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ma.busch is currently offline  Ma.busch
Messages: 2
Registered: June 2001
Junior Member
Reimar Bauer wrote:

> Hi,
>
> did someone have more experience with this newsgroup search machine.
> In the past I have often used dejanews. Are there differences between
> booth.
>
> http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=plot&as_ugroup=comp .lang.idl-pvwave
>
> regards
> Reimar
>
> --
> Reimar Bauer
>
> Institut fuer Stratosphaerische Chemie (ICG-1)
> Forschungszentrum Juelich
> email: R.Bauer@fz-juelich.de
> http://www.fz-juelich.de/icg/icg1/
> ============================================================ ======
> a IDL library at ForschungsZentrum Juelich
> http://www.fz-juelich.de/icg/icg1/idl_icglib/idl_lib_intro.h tml
>
> http://www.fz-juelich.de/zb/text/publikation/juel3786.html
> ============================================================ ======
>
> read something about linux / windows
> http://www.suse.de/de/news/hotnews/MS.html

Hi
try
http://www.deja.com
you will come to the google group search engine

I think it is the same

Regards
Marlene
IDLDE Macros (was: google search postings) [message #25470 is a reply to message #25381] Tue, 12 June 2001 15:18 Go to previous message
Dick Jackson is currently offline  Dick Jackson
Messages: 347
Registered: August 1998
Senior Member
"Reimar Bauer" <r.bauer@fz-juelich.de> wrote in message
news:3B25B88B.CED7EE00@fz-juelich.de...
> Stein Vidar Hagfors Haugan wrote:
>>
>> Ahh... Thanks for pointing this out.. Gave me a chance to go back to the
>> "really old days", and I found an old "IDL wish list" I wrote in 1995
(along
>> the lines of the "top ten wishes for IDL in the next release"):
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> 3. Possibility of Macros (nope!)
>
> I would say (Check!). If you are using idlde you can use idl macros.
> I have some written e.g. export_html,%s,name=%_'%s%_'

My favorite is my Ctrl-Shift-X, to execute a selected line of code:

ignoredResult = Execute("%s")

I know, IDLWAVE-Shell users have had this and much more for years! Recall
that I'm the one *still* trying to get a command-line IDL for Windows so I
can use IDLWAVE-Shell... %^\

Cheers,
--
-Dick

Dick Jackson / dick@d-jackson.com
D-Jackson Software Consulting / http://www.d-jackson.com
Calgary, Alberta, Canada / +1-403-242-7398 / Fax: 241-7392
Re: google search postings [message #25474 is a reply to message #25386] Tue, 12 June 2001 13:35 Go to previous message
deja_jlin is currently offline  deja_jlin
Messages: 12
Registered: February 2001
Junior Member
Craig,

either way you decide, i wanted to just let you know your
archive really saved me during the time between google
buying deja and taking down the archives to when they put
the archives back up again. i was really glad that you had
an independent archive that we could access. thanks!

best,
-Johnny

-------------------------------------------
Johnny Lin
CIRES, University of Colorado
Work Phone: (303) 735-1636
Web: http://cires.colorado.edu/~johnny/
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Craig Markwardt <craigmnet@cow.physics.wisc.edu> wrote in message news:<on3d96n2ef.fsf@cow.physics.wisc.edu>...
>
> [...]
>
> Question: are there any objections to my taking down the page? Or,
> some way to make it "better" than Google in some way? [ I almost
> prefer to take down the page vs. mothballing it. Right now I get a
> lot of pretty superfluous Google hits. ]
>
> Craig
>
> Archive is here:
> http://cow.physics.wisc.edu/~craigm/idl/newsgroup.html
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