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Re: Any cross-platform IDL alternatives? [message #27135] Thu, 11 October 2001 09:49 Go to next message
Eric Williams is currently offline  Eric Williams
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Thanks Martin! I'll try those out.

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Re: Any cross-platform IDL alternatives? [message #27136 is a reply to message #27135] Thu, 11 October 2001 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Perry Phillips is currently offline  Perry Phillips
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Thanks for the info. Our group has just start a new machine with a Linux
based data acquisition system. I had been recomending IDL as a cross
plateform analysis tool. No longer! We will be phaseing out our existing
lincenses and looking for alternatives.

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Re: Any cross-platform IDL alternatives? [message #27156 is a reply to message #27136] Wed, 10 October 2001 20:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Martin Otte is currently offline  Martin Otte
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It looks like now is the time to start compiling a list of open-source,
mainly unix alternatives to IDL which can be used on OS X. Here are
some contributions to such a list, with the descriptions largely copied
from the software's home pages:


http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/
From what I read on the web, Grace is probably the most 'mature'
analysis and plotting package available for free for Unix

http://ana.lmsal.com/
ANA is a free, extensive, interactive data and image processing
software package and language. In the past, I have compiled it under
LINUX, and the language and commands that it uses are similar to (but
not as good as) IDL. The web page doesn't seem to be working as of this
evening, and I don't think that I have a copy of the source code saved.
If only a few former IDL users had some time to 'hack' at this, it
could probably develop into a viable clone/alternative to IDL.

http://scigraphica.sourceforge.net/
SciGraphica is a scientific application for data analysis and technical
graphics. It pretends to be a clone of the popular commercial (and
expensive) application "Microcal Origin"

http://www.gnome.org/projects/guppi/
Guppi is an interactive data analysis application. Guppi is meant to be
both powerful and user-friendly. Guppi is not a clone of any existing
system, but it is meant to be a free replacement for proprietary tools
like Systat, IDL and Microcal Origin.

http://www.octave.org
GNU Octave is a high-level language, primarily intended for numerical
computations. It provides a convenient command line interface for
solving linear and nonlinear problems numerically, and for performing
other numerical experiments using a language that is mostly compatible
with Matlab.

http://SAL.KachinaTech.COM/
SAL (Scientific Applications on Linux) is a collection of information
and links to software that will be of interest to scientists and
engineers. With over 3,000 software packages listed, this should be the
first stop for people looking for IDL alternatives.

http://www.seul.org/sci/index.html
The Linux in Science web page has some interesting information which
may be useful for OS X.



Martin Otte



In article <B7EA25A6.AD69%wilersh@mac.com>, Eric Williams
<wilersh@mac.com> wrote:

> Since RSI/Kodak is killing IDL for the Mac (and others) I am wondering if
> anyone has suggestions for trying out some other cross-platform software. I
> am not really worried too much about Windows but the Mac/*nix world is where
> I work. We use IDL mostly for processing astronomical data and writing
> procedures to play with the data visually. So a tool with a simple language
> and good graphing capabilities is what we really need.
>
> BTW, if anyone from RSI cares, I only have two Mac licenses but I have
> brought 31 Solaris licenses to my campus since coming here, with plenty more
> potential on the horizon. Once I have an alternative tool I will be
> recommending against purchasing anymore licenses and dropping maintenance.
> Too bad because I have been a huge evangelist for IDL over the years. I have
> turned more than 50 students and scientists onto IDL in the last few years
> which has resulted in most likely hundreds of licenses if not many more as
> they have moved onto other sites. That will all stop now and I will try to
> do the opposite, and probably save some money too.
>
> Bye bye IDL, it WAS great...
Re: Any cross-platform IDL alternatives? [message #27261 is a reply to message #27156] Sat, 13 October 2001 08:37 Go to previous message
pit is currently offline  pit
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Registered: January 1996
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Martin Otte <mjotte@bellsouth.net> writes:
> http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/
> From what I read on the web, Grace is probably the most 'mature'
> analysis and plotting package available for free for Unix

Maybe mature (based on xmgr), but by far not what a typical IDL
user expects:
Grace is a WYSIWYG 2D plotting tool...

> http://ana.lmsal.com/
> ANA is a free, extensive, interactive data and image processing
> software package and language. In the past, I have compiled it under
> LINUX, and the language and commands that it uses are similar to (but
> not as good as) IDL. The web page doesn't seem to be working as of this
> evening, and I don't think that I have a copy of the source code saved.
> If only a few former IDL users had some time to 'hack' at this, it
> could probably develop into a viable clone/alternative to IDL.

Yes, it is (was?) a thing very comparable to IDL. I found it a bit
confusing in syntax, as it was very similar to IDL - but still different.
As far as I know, the last developer (L.Strouss) left science, I don't
know what is happening with ANA now. At least the Source is around,
so it could easily be pushed as 'the' alternative.

On a graduate school, one of the lecturers was using Yorick
(ftp://ftp-icf.llnl.gov/pub/Yorick/doc/index.html). It is named a
package for linear algebra, but also has general numeric and display
routines. It also is an interpreted languge like IDL

Pit
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Tel.: +31 (0)30 253 5225 P.Suetterlin@astro.uu.nl
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