| OT(ish): ANA seems to be back [message #27927] |
Wed, 14 November 2001 03:21  |
James Tappin
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It looks as if the ANA site http://ana.lmsal.com/ is operation again. Still
no updates since Sept 00 though.
James
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| Re: OT(ish): ANA seems to be back [message #27971 is a reply to message #27927] |
Thu, 15 November 2001 06:00  |
David Fanning
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H C Pumphrey (hcp@newsread.ed.ac.uk) writes:
> [in reply to the statement]
> |> > Well, if you don't include "time futzing around" into
> |> > the equation, of course. :-)
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> |> That's equally applicable to commercial applications.
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> Especially (to bring this all back on topic) if that application is IDL.
Well, only if it has to do with objects, or PostScript,
or contours, or... Oh, I see your point. :-)
Cheers,
David
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| Re: OT(ish): ANA seems to be back [message #27976 is a reply to message #27927] |
Thu, 15 November 2001 02:26 |
hcp
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In article <9t02uj$55ke$1@rook.le.ac.uk>, Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> writes:
[in reply to the statement]
|> > Well, if you don't include "time futzing around" into
|> > the equation, of course. :-)
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|> That's equally applicable to commercial applications.
Especially (to bring this all back on topic) if that application is IDL.
Hugh
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| Re: OT(ish): ANA seems to be back [message #27977 is a reply to message #27927] |
Thu, 15 November 2001 01:46 |
Nigel Wade
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David Fanning wrote:
> Nigel Wade (nmw@ion.le.ac.uk) writes:
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>> But, in the case of "free" software, it hasn't actually cost you
>> anything.
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> Well, if you don't include "time futzing around" into
> the equation, of course. :-)
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That's equally applicable to commercial applications.
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| Re: OT(ish): ANA seems to be back [message #27999 is a reply to message #27927] |
Wed, 14 November 2001 14:27 |
Logan Lindquist
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"Ken Prager" <prager@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:prager-9D7768.13203814112001@bos-proxy.ext.ray.com...
> In article <9sugic$rjs$1@sulawesi-fi.lerc.nasa.gov>,
> "Logan Lindquist" <llindqusit@mrdoc.cc> wrote:
> "Logan, meet Ayn."
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> "Ayn, this is Logan."
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> "You two will be sitting next to each other at dinner tonight...
To take the topic even farther off track ....
Funny, I have never read any of her work, and I do not consider myself to be
a objectivist. Well at least all the time that is. The Libertarian party is
kinda interesting. I'm torn between the two. Oh and I didn't vote for Nader
;) Gore all the way baby!
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| Re: OT(ish): ANA seems to be back [message #28004 is a reply to message #27927] |
Wed, 14 November 2001 13:27 |
Paul van Delst
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Logan Lindquist wrote:
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> but my real motive was to
> offer my fantasized view of a better society.
Fantasized...oh, o.k. Then I won't issue a recommendation to change your usenet moniker to "The
Man of La Mancha".... :o)
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| Re: OT(ish): ANA seems to be back [message #28005 is a reply to message #27927] |
Wed, 14 November 2001 13:30 |
David Fanning
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Ken Prager (prager@ieee.org) writes:
> "Logan, meet Ayn."
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> "Ayn, this is Logan."
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> "You two will be sitting next to each other at dinner tonight..."
You got that right! :-)
Cheers,
David
P.S. In a previous life time, almost, I was
an Ayn Rand fanatic. How exhilarating it all
was. Now my 17-year old son is writing reports
about Fountainhead. Ah, it takes me back....
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| Re: OT(ish): ANA seems to be back [message #28006 is a reply to message #27927] |
Wed, 14 November 2001 13:20 |
Ken Prager
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In article <9sugic$rjs$1@sulawesi-fi.lerc.nasa.gov>,
"Logan Lindquist" <llindqusit@mrdoc.cc> wrote:
> "David Fanning" <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.165c52eb332a85c9989770@news.frii.com...
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>> Well, if you don't include "time futzing around" into
>> the equation, of course. :-)
>
> You should look into working for a corporation where you don't have to feel
> guilty about spending time futzing around with stuff. Of course you would
> have your regular work to do. Well that is if your regular work doesn't take
> up all your time. The news group counts as futzing? Getting paid to work on
> whatever sounds interesting is the ideal.
>
> If our society was setup where everyone got what they wanted and could do
> whatever they wanted then we wouldn't need money! A truly republic democracy
> or a monarchy democractic political system could then be formed where
> government interests couldn't be "bought".
>
> The corporation would still exists as a means to run things, but the social
> classes that exists today in the industrialized nations as a result of
> capitalism would disappear. The person could then choose what they want to
> do and be rewarded based on what they choose to do for that year.
>
> This is of course assuming that we could somehow transfer skill sets
> required to the different jobs. Who knows how that would be accomplished,
> but if it is possible it would lead to better social system which promoted
> something closer to equality.
>
> :)
>
>
"Logan, meet Ayn."
"Ayn, this is Logan."
"You two will be sitting next to each other at dinner tonight..."
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| Re: OT(ish): ANA seems to be back [message #28008 is a reply to message #27927] |
Wed, 14 November 2001 12:50 |
Logan Lindquist
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"David Fanning" <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.165c79236116bd72989771@news.frii.com...
> Logan Lindquist (llindqusit@mrdoc.cc) writes:
> Uh, you wouldn't still be on college, would you?
David,
Uh, graduated but no diploma. Stupid Liberal Arts :) [in school part time]
Not that it matters cause a person can expirence the grind working in all
sorts of jobs. Some people think working for yourself is more rewarding
because you make the decisions, but I think working for a corporation [Its
employees are responsible for its sucess, even though those at the top are
held more responsible and if the corporation fails then they have a hard
time also] and being at the top is more rewarding. I am working full time at
something that is interesting, but not what I really want to do for more
than a year.
My point, and sorry to get off on a tangent, was that money was a
meaningless social construction that causes more strife than good. If it
didn't exist then your problem of feeling guilty about spending time on
something that you found interesting [otherwise you wouldn't have taken the
time] and not on what ever consulting work you had would be alleviated. I
also tried to point out that when working for a corporation you don't feel
as guilty at futzing around because of the more relaxed pay structure versus
a consultant. I am sure you are aware of this, but my real motive was to
offer my fantasized view of a better society.
Logan
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| Re: OT(ish): ANA seems to be back [message #28011 is a reply to message #27927] |
Wed, 14 November 2001 11:51 |
David Fanning
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Logan Lindquist (llindqusit@mrdoc.cc) writes:
> You should look into working for a corporation where you don't have to feel
> guilty about spending time futzing around with stuff. Of course you would
> have your regular work to do. Well that is if your regular work doesn't take
> up all your time. The news group counts as futzing? Getting paid to work on
> whatever sounds interesting is the ideal.
>
> If our society was setup where everyone got what they wanted and could do
> whatever they wanted then we wouldn't need money! A truly republic democracy
> or a monarchy democractic political system could then be formed where
> government interests couldn't be "bought".
Uh, you wouldn't still be on college, would you?
In the real world, even if you are doing what you
want to do and what you are interested in doing, it
can still be a grind. Money definitely helps. :-)
Cheers,
David
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| Re: OT(ish): ANA seems to be back [message #28012 is a reply to message #27927] |
Wed, 14 November 2001 11:25 |
Logan Lindquist
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"David Fanning" <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.165c52eb332a85c9989770@news.frii.com...
> Well, if you don't include "time futzing around" into
> the equation, of course. :-)
You should look into working for a corporation where you don't have to feel
guilty about spending time futzing around with stuff. Of course you would
have your regular work to do. Well that is if your regular work doesn't take
up all your time. The news group counts as futzing? Getting paid to work on
whatever sounds interesting is the ideal.
If our society was setup where everyone got what they wanted and could do
whatever they wanted then we wouldn't need money! A truly republic democracy
or a monarchy democractic political system could then be formed where
government interests couldn't be "bought".
The corporation would still exists as a means to run things, but the social
classes that exists today in the industrialized nations as a result of
capitalism would disappear. The person could then choose what they want to
do and be rewarded based on what they choose to do for that year.
This is of course assuming that we could somehow transfer skill sets
required to the different jobs. Who knows how that would be accomplished,
but if it is possible it would lead to better social system which promoted
something closer to equality.
:)
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