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Re: Research Systems Platform Support Update [message #28326] Tue, 04 December 2001 10:46
Stein Vidar Hagfors H[1] is currently offline  Stein Vidar Hagfors H[1]
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Registered: February 2000
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Matthew Powell <mpowell@rsinc.com> writes:

[...]
> Research Systems is committed to supporting our customers with their
> varied platform requirements while maintaining financially sound
> business practices. Our goal is to communicate all pertinent information
> to our customers in a timely fashion in order to allow them ample time
> to make well informed platform decisions. Accordingly, we would like to
> reassure our customers on other currently supported platforms that we
> have no plans to discontinue any of them at this time. We ask customers
> for assistance in planning for the future by informing their sales
> representatives about their future platform purchase plans so that we
> can better support our customer base. We also ask that our customers
> take a moment to complete and return a brief survey that will be
> e-mailed to them shortly regarding their current platform usage and
> future purchase plans.

If RSI had only done this *before* making their previous decision,
we'd all have slept better... I really wonder what will happen, given
recent experiences, if a viable, free, open-source alternative should
emerge..

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Re: Research Systems Platform Support Update [message #28338 is a reply to message #28326] Tue, 04 December 2001 03:35 Go to previous message
Struan Gray is currently offline  Struan Gray
Messages: 178
Registered: December 1995
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Matthew Powell, mpowell@rsinc.com writes:

> In response to customer requests for continued
> support of Mac OS X, IBM AIX and Compaq Tru64
> Unix for Alpha platforms, Research Systems Inc.
> (RSI) announced today that it will reverse an
> earlier decision to drop support for these three
> platforms in future releases of IDL and ENVI.

As someone who complained publically about the intial decision, I
hereby issue a public "whew, thanks." Of course, the proof of the
pudding is in the eating, but this is enough of a taster for me to
continue maintainance for a little while yet.


I shouldn't really be surprised, but does anyone else feel their
intelligence being insulted by these two statements:

> For the Macintosh OS X platform, .....
> ...
> This essentially allows RSI to support Mac OS X as
> another Unix platform, thus reducing the costs of
> development and support.
> ...
> there will be a corresponding modest increase in
> maintenance and new license prices for the Macintosh
> platform in order to cover the associated development
> and support costs.

What they mean of course, is that since MacOS X is really Unix, Mac
licences are really Unix licences, and Unix licences cost more. Shall
we have a sweepstake on the value of 'modest'?


Struan
Re: Research Systems Platform Support Update [message #28341 is a reply to message #28338] Mon, 03 December 2001 21:32 Go to previous message
Richard French is currently offline  Richard French
Messages: 173
Registered: December 2000
Senior Member
Matthew Powell wrote:
>
> In response to customer requests for continued support of Mac OS X, IBM
> AIX and Compaq Tru64 Unix for Alpha platforms, Research Systems Inc.
> (RSI) announced today that it will reverse an earlier decision to drop
> support for these three platforms in future releases of IDL and ENVI.
>

Power to the people! This is a big relief! Now, we just need to make
sure that RSI gets the word that these platforms really are being used!
Fill in those questionnaires, Alpha users!

Dick French
Re: Research Systems Platform Support Update [message #28343 is a reply to message #28341] Mon, 03 December 2001 20:08 Go to previous message
Knaepen Bernard is currently offline  Knaepen Bernard
Messages: 1
Registered: December 2001
Junior Member
What about license costs of Xtools? Will that be covered by the IDL license?
If no, will it be possible to use XDarwin instead of Xtools?

Bernard.
Re: Research Systems Platform Support Update [message #28344 is a reply to message #28343] Mon, 03 December 2001 19:58 Go to previous message
Paul Woodford is currently offline  Paul Woodford
Messages: 43
Registered: June 2000
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In article <3C0BB8FD.CF2A511F@rsinc.com>,
Matthew Powell <mpowell@rsinc.com> wrote:

> For the Macintosh OS X platform, RSI will be providing a native release
> using Tenon Intersystems� Xtools X-Windows server, giving customers the
> benefit of OS X's Unix core while providing a Motif interface similar to
> that provided on other Unix platforms.

[...]

> For IDL customers, this solution provides a fully native version of IDL
> to the Macintosh user [...]

Well, I wouldn't quite call it fully native. The original plan was for
a fully native version; this version will be a bit of a hack. I'm happy
to see Altivec optimization made the cut. I do plan to check it out. A
word of warning for RSI tech support, though - I have not been
persistent in reporting bugs and user interface ugliness in the Linux
version because I have been developing on the Mac. The Mac interface
has been much nicer than the Linux interface, so I simply minimized my
exposure to the Linux interface. If I do start using the OS X version,
and if it does inherit to interface bugs and ugliness of the Linux
version, I'll be complaining.

Who knows, maybe I will check to see if the OS X version of emacs is
anything other than ugly...

Paul
Re: Research Systems Platform Support Update [message #28349 is a reply to message #28344] Mon, 03 December 2001 12:42 Go to previous message
gurman is currently offline  gurman
Messages: 82
Registered: August 1992
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In article <3C0BB8FD.CF2A511F@rsinc.com>, Matthew Powell
<mpowell@rsinc.com> wrote:

> In response to customer requests for continued support of Mac OS X, IBM
> AIX and Compaq Tru64 Unix for Alpha platforms, Research Systems Inc.
> (RSI) announced today that it will reverse an earlier decision to drop
> support for these three platforms in future releases of IDL and ENVI.

[snip]

Hear, hear.

I think that's one massive (if conditional) sigh of relief I hear.

Joe Gurman
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