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RE: David Stern Leaves RSI [message #28538] Wed, 19 December 2001 07:20 Go to next message
Ron Syml is currently offline  Ron Syml
Messages: 4
Registered: October 2001
Junior Member
> ===== Original Message From david@dfanning.com =====
> Folks,
>
> I just received public confirmation of rumors I have
> been hearing this week that David Stern has finally
> cashed in his chips and has left RSI.

"Cashing in his chips" is a good way of looking
at this, after all, he already sold his sole.

This is yet another nail in the IDL coffin. IDL was
never about making a profit to people like David;
rather, it was about writing really cool scientific code.
Long hours and late nights were the norm, not the
exception and overtime pay was never even thought about.
Gone are the days when IDL programmers wrote
code on thier own just 'cause it was cool and fun.
You can still find that original sentiment in a few
of the regulars of this group and it abounds in Linux
development circles. Alas, it seems all but gone from
the core of RSI. It is a sad day. I no longer expect
bug fixes and feature requests in days (sometimes
hours)... I now simply pray they will make the next
minor version toggle. Perhpas this is just evolution.
There is, of course, life outside of software development.

David, goodbye and thanks for all the fish.

Ron

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Re: David Stern Leaves RSI [message #28543 is a reply to message #28538] Wed, 19 December 2001 01:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jeff Payne is currently offline  Jeff Payne
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Registered: November 2001
Junior Member
William Thompson wrote:

>
> All of us IDL old-timers will miss him,
>

I'll echo that a thousand times Bill.
I recall his visits to RAL in the UK, to install IDL, or to add new
image display drivers and then afterwards enjoying a few beers
with him, down at the Anchor Inn in Abingdon.
I still have a copy of David's SOL manual , dated October 1 1975,
sitting
on the desk. SOL you will recall ran on a PDP 11 under RSX11/M and was
the precurser to IDL, using those still familiar commands like READI,
PLOT,
OPLOT, FFT, to analyse the data from the OSO range of spacecraft.

Thanks for IDL, David
Jeff Payne.
Re: David Stern Leaves RSI [message #28545 is a reply to message #28543] Tue, 18 December 2001 16:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andy Loughe is currently offline  Andy Loughe
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Registered: November 1995
Senior Member
Hear Hear!

I remember the days when we couldn't get "contour data, x, y, /fill"
to work correctly, and so David developed the /cell_fill algorithm.

We would send him the results of our test... he would make code changes
over the course of an hour or two... send us the new .pro, and we would
again test it on our data.

After about 3 or 4 trials, it was a new feature in IDL. I've used
it everywhere I go!

Thanks for the extra effort, David.

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Re: David Stern Leaves RSI [message #28549 is a reply to message #28545] Tue, 18 December 2001 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thompson is currently offline  thompson
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Registered: August 1991
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David Fanning <david@dfanning.com> writes:

> Folks,

> I just received public confirmation of rumors I have
> been hearing this week that David Stern has finally
> cashed in his chips and has left RSI.

> David was the least likely CEO I have ever known,
> always unassuming and unfailingly modest. ...

Hear, hear!

I always found it startling in the early days to call up RSI, and
the CEO would answer the phone. I always found David Stern to be
a very friendly and easy person to talk to.

When we first got into the business of developing electronic
cameras in the lab, we bought a MicroVAX II, and identified an
imaging card we wanted to buy. The equipment was so new at that
time that the company making the video card didn't even have a
driver yet for the MicroVAX. We put the video card company into
contact with RSI, and David not only wrote an IDL interface for
the card, but wrote the VMS driver as well. And then he flew
over personally to install it for us. I was always impressed by
that.

All of us IDL old-timers will miss him,

Bill Thompson
Re: David Stern Leaves RSI [message #28550 is a reply to message #28549] Tue, 18 December 2001 14:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jonathan Boswell is currently offline  Jonathan Boswell
Messages: 4
Registered: February 2001
Junior Member
David Fanning wrote:
> IDL is a tremendous legacy, David. You done
> real, real good. Now go enjoy that retirement
> or whatever it is you want to do.

Hear hear. My first interaction with David (back in 1985?) was remarkable. I
was complaining about what I thought was a bug in IDL, though it was actually a
documented feature. Without offering any excuses, David promptly provided an
entirely new clipping algorithm (using the !NOCLIP system variable if memory
serves) which did what I wanted. He even provided an updated IDL image the next
day for free. Perhaps he doesn't give snazzy presentations, but for this repeat
customer, he is without peer!

Contrast this with RSI after the acquisition. New license prices approximately
doubled, and support was dropped for my favorite platform (Alpha/VMS) the very
next month. I don't blame David one bit for bowing out. He was probably driven
out (but I have no inside info on this so it's pure speculation). I am reminded
of Steve Jobs leaving Apple. Perhaps one day David too will return. At least I
dearly hope he does.

- JB
Re: David Stern Leaves RSI [message #28555 is a reply to message #28550] Tue, 18 December 2001 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pavel A. Romashkin is currently offline  Pavel A. Romashkin
Messages: 531
Registered: November 2000
Senior Member
This was the first year in a long time that David Stern did not come to
the annual AGU meeting. I was always pleased to see him there, although
he never spoke much. It was sad to see that things are really changing
at RSI. In my eyes, the way it was was not bad at all.
I echo David Fanning's wishes do Dave Stern. And hey, now that he will
have the time, maybe he'll get some real IDL code posted here on the
newsgroup? If not at RSI, some IDL enthusiasts that appreciate clever
code are still present elsewhere...

Pavel

David Fanning wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I just received public confirmation of rumors I have
> been hearing this week that David Stern has finally
> cashed in his chips and has left RSI.
Re: David Stern Leaves RSI [message #28612 is a reply to message #28538] Wed, 19 December 2001 17:02 Go to previous message
gutmann is currently offline  gutmann
Messages: 11
Registered: December 2001
Junior Member
As a relatively new IDL user (~2yrs) I hope that some of this spirit
will live on as this is one of the things that attracts me to it. I
suspect some of this spirit will continue, at least in the community
that has developed around it. Whether or not the company continues to
be a part of that community rather than just another company remains
to be seen I suppose.

> David, goodbye and thanks for all the fish.

so long and... ;)
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