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Re: Windows XP problems and 400 HASP key reasons [message #28676] Mon, 07 January 2002 10:17
John McLeod is currently offline  John McLeod
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2002
Junior Member
IDL has informed us that "...We do offer home-use licenses that would allow
your
colleagues to work from home as needed while maintaining the work
licenses...." but we haven't explored this
further.

John McLeod

"Andrew & Jo Cool" <cooladjc@chariot.net.au> wrote in message
news:3C380BD7.85D0BF00@chariot.net.au...
>
>
> Rick Towler wrote:
>>
>> That is the question.
>>
>> We too will be inconvenienced by this change of policy, as will many
>> traveling IDL folk who have up until now enjoyed the freedom to carry
their
>> dongle.
>>
>> I wish RSI would at least publish their reasoning behind this and offer
an
>> alternative solution. I don't mind requesting a temporary key on
occasion
>> but do they really want to issue me 50 keys good for each Saturday and
>> Sunday of the year so if I decide to work at home on a weekend I can?
>>
>> -Rick
>>
>
> One reason given to me by an RSI source was that HASP keys cost RSI
> USD$200 each.
> By disposing of HASP keys, the price of PC licences fell by USD$200.
> That's 200 good
> reasons, methinks! Actually 400 good reasons here in Australia...
>
> And I must go on record to say that RSI is bending over backwards to
> provide
> solutions to licence issues at my place of employment since the
> withdrawal of most
> of our HASP keys in favour of licences keyed to Ethernet card addresses
> or PC HD Disk
> Serial Numbers or keyed to particular Servers. And it's not every day I
> hand RSI a
> freebie compliment - ask 'em ;-)
>
> Andrew Cool
> DSTO Edinburgh, Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
>
> andrew.cool@dsto.defence.gov.au
Re: Windows XP problems and 400 HASP key reasons [message #28678 is a reply to message #28676] Mon, 07 January 2002 07:38 Go to previous message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
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Francis Burton wrote:
>
> Andrew & Jo Cool wrote:
>>
>> One reason given to me by an RSI source was that HASP keys cost RSI
>> USD$200 each.
>
> Why does such a piffling bit of hardware cost so much anyway?!
>
> Francis

I am believing it costs only 80 euro.

Reimar

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read something about linux / windows
http://www.suse.de/de/news/hotnews/MS.html
Re: Windows XP problems and 400 HASP key reasons [message #28679 is a reply to message #28678] Mon, 07 January 2002 04:47 Go to previous message
Francis Burton is currently offline  Francis Burton
Messages: 11
Registered: October 2001
Junior Member
Andrew & Jo Cool wrote:
>
> One reason given to me by an RSI source was that HASP keys cost RSI
> USD$200 each.

Why does such a piffling bit of hardware cost so much anyway?!

Francis
Re: Windows XP problems and 400 HASP key reasons [message #28685 is a reply to message #28679] Sun, 06 January 2002 18:37 Go to previous message
rmw092001 is currently offline  rmw092001
Messages: 17
Registered: January 2002
Junior Member
Andrew & Jo Cool <cooladjc@chariot.net.au> wrote in message news:<3C380BD7.85D0BF00@chariot.net.au>...
> Rick Towler wrote:
>>
>> That is the question.
>>
>> We too will be inconvenienced by this change of policy, as will many
>> traveling IDL folk who have up until now enjoyed the freedom to carry their
>> dongle.
>>
>> I wish RSI would at least publish their reasoning behind this and offer an
>> alternative solution. I don't mind requesting a temporary key on occasion
>> but do they really want to issue me 50 keys good for each Saturday and
>> Sunday of the year so if I decide to work at home on a weekend I can?
>>
>> -Rick
>>
>
> One reason given to me by an RSI source was that HASP keys cost RSI
> USD$200 each.
> By disposing of HASP keys, the price of PC licences fell by USD$200.
> That's 200 good
> reasons, methinks! Actually 400 good reasons here in Australia...
>

US$200 seems good value to me, for complete freedom of movement, to
use one copy of IDL anywhere in the world. For fixed computers in a
lab, node-locked licenses were already available!!! Why remove the
backwards-compatibility with HASP though? It means RSI can refuse to
supply a softkey if I want to move an 'old' copy of IDL to another
computer ("sorry IDL 5.6 is no longer supported, you'll have to
upgrade - US$500 please, what's your credit card number?").

> And I must go on record to say that RSI is bending over backwards to
> provide
> solutions to licence issues at my place of employment since the
> withdrawal of most
> of our HASP keys in favour of licences keyed to Ethernet card addresses
> or PC HD Disk
> Serial Numbers or keyed to particular Servers.

But of course - you save AUS$400 short-term, RSI recover $$$$$$
long-term. IDL is a mature product now - no need to be nice and get
lots more users, it's time to start 'milking' for every $. With
softkey licensing, they can do this even 30 years from now, if IDL is
obsolete and unsupported - milking users with large amounts of old,
legacy IDL code. It's been normal practise for many-user unix licenses
in labs, but not for individuals working on a PC - until now.

Richard

> And it's not every day I
> hand RSI a
> freebie compliment - ask 'em ;-)
>
> Andrew Cool
> DSTO Edinburgh, Adelaide, AUSTRALIA
>
> andrew.cool@dsto.defence.gov.au
Re: Windows XP problems and 400 HASP key reasons [message #28688 is a reply to message #28685] Sun, 06 January 2002 10:13 Go to previous message
bgeer is currently offline  bgeer
Messages: 2
Registered: January 2002
Junior Member
Andrew & Jo Cool <cooladjc@chariot.net.au> writes:

>... in favour of licences keyed to Ethernet card addresses ...

Let's see, purchase a hot processor, ma'board, ram, harddisk, &
ethernet card, & a cheap video card. Install Linux & an IDL for
Linux, then run it from your beater PC with an X server & good video
card. Works fine, lasts a long time...:-)


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