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idl, color and exceed xserver? [message #28978] Fri, 25 January 2002 10:58 Go to next message
mmiller3 is currently offline  mmiller3
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I'm using exceed to connect to unix machines from a windows 2000
machine. There is a particular application that I can use when I
log in at the unix (HP-US in this case) console. When I connect
from a windows 2000 machine and use exceed and hwm (exceed's
window manager) to display on my screen, I often get errors
related to color maps. Is there anyone out there in IDL land who
has used exceed and can suggest some exceed configuration options
that might help idl tolerate it better?

Mike
Re: idl, color and exceed xserver? [message #29046 is a reply to message #28978] Tue, 29 January 2002 07:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Liam E. Gumley is currently offline  Liam E. Gumley
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"Michael A. Miller" wrote:
> I'm using exceed to connect to unix machines from a windows 2000
> machine. There is a particular application that I can use when I
> log in at the unix (HP-US in this case) console. When I connect
> from a windows 2000 machine and use exceed and hwm (exceed's
> window manager) to display on my screen, I often get errors
> related to color maps. Is there anyone out there in IDL land who
> has used exceed and can suggest some exceed configuration options
> that might help idl tolerate it better?

I use Exceed 6.2 routinely on my Windows NT PC to run IDL sessions on an
SGI. However I do *not* use "HWM". I just open a shell on the SGI, e.g.

% setenv DISPLAY mypc:0
% xterm -fn 9x15 -fg gray -bg navy &

My PC desktop is configured for "True Color", and I use the following
IDL startup file on the SGI:

if !version.os_family eq 'unix' then device, true_color=24
window, /free, /pixmap, colors=-10
wdelete, !d.window
device, decomposed=0, retain=2, set_character_size=[10, 12]
device, get_visual_depth=depth
print, 'Display depth: ', depth
print, 'Color table size: ', !d.table_size

I don't have any problems with this setup. The only change I made to the
Exceed configuration was to allow the window focus to change with
pointer motion.

Cheers,
Liam.
Practical IDL Programming
http://www.gumley.com/
Re: idl, color and exceed xserver? [message #29052 is a reply to message #28978] Tue, 29 January 2002 01:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nigel Wade is currently offline  Nigel Wade
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Registered: March 1998
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Michael A. Miller wrote:

> I'm using exceed to connect to unix machines from a windows 2000
> machine. There is a particular application that I can use when I
> log in at the unix (HP-US in this case) console. When I connect
> from a windows 2000 machine and use exceed and hwm (exceed's
> window manager) to display on my screen, I often get errors
> related to color maps. Is there anyone out there in IDL land who
> has used exceed and can suggest some exceed configuration options
> that might help idl tolerate it better?
>
> Mike

We use eXceed under W2K and I'm far from happy with it. You've presumably
got around their wonderful requirement of needing Administrator privilege
to run Exceed.
But that's another story...

What screen colour depth do you have your PC display set to, and what are
the errors you are getting in relation to colour maps? IDL requires either
an 8 bit PsuedoColor or 24 bit TrueColor X visual (although I've heard
rumours that 5.5 supports 16 bit colour). What does the command xdpyinfo
tell you about the X display?

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Nigel Wade, System Administrator, Space Plasma Physics Group,
University of Leicester, Leicester, LE1 7RH, UK
E-mail : nmw@ion.le.ac.uk
Phone : +44 (0)116 2523568, Fax : +44 (0)116 2523555
Re: idl, color and exceed xserver? [message #29096 is a reply to message #29052] Thu, 31 January 2002 11:20 Go to previous message
Rick Towler is currently offline  Rick Towler
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Registered: August 1998
Senior Member
I have had many of these same problems with Exceed. We now use WebTermX by
Powerlan USA, Inc. which after working out the details works great for us.

It can run the server at a bit depth independent of your windows desktop
depth which makes managing color issue easier. Since we're part of a big
.edu domain we run an win32 ssh client for a terminal and allow the X-server
to handle everything else.

All in all it works quite well. If you decide to try it out, feel free to
contact me. I can pass along the details of our configuration since we
don't follow their usual setup.

-Rick



"Nigel Wade" <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:a35q8g$kuf5$1@rook.le.ac.uk...
> Michael A. Miller wrote:
>
>> I'm using exceed to connect to unix machines from a windows 2000
>> machine. There is a particular application that I can use when I
>> log in at the unix (HP-US in this case) console. When I connect
>> from a windows 2000 machine and use exceed and hwm (exceed's
>> window manager) to display on my screen, I often get errors
>> related to color maps. Is there anyone out there in IDL land who
>> has used exceed and can suggest some exceed configuration options
>> that might help idl tolerate it better?
>>
>> Mike
>
> We use eXceed under W2K and I'm far from happy with it. You've presumably
> got around their wonderful requirement of needing Administrator privilege
> to run Exceed.
> But that's another story...
>
> What screen colour depth do you have your PC display set to, and what are
> the errors you are getting in relation to colour maps? IDL requires either
> an 8 bit PsuedoColor or 24 bit TrueColor X visual (although I've heard
> rumours that 5.5 supports 16 bit colour). What does the command xdpyinfo
> tell you about the X display?
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Nigel Wade, System Administrator, Space Plasma Physics Group,
> University of Leicester, Leicester, LE1 7RH, UK
> E-mail : nmw@ion.le.ac.uk
> Phone : +44 (0)116 2523568, Fax : +44 (0)116 2523555
Re: idl, color and exceed xserver? [message #29106 is a reply to message #28978] Thu, 31 January 2002 02:44 Go to previous message
Jaco van Gorkom is currently offline  Jaco van Gorkom
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Registered: November 2000
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"Jonathan Joseph" <jj21@cornell.edu> wrote in message
news:3C584CA7.B49AB6F2@cornell.edu...
> I am using exceed (7.0) on a Win2k machine and running IDL from a
> Solaris 8 box. It works OK mostly, except if I try to bring up the IDL
> online help, it crashes exceed session!!! Rather annoying. Has anyone
> seen (or solved) that problem?

In the same configuration, using Solaris 7, I have no problems. Except

that the IDL help needs a click in the window after scrolling, to fill in

the white space.

From NT with an older Exceed I have had problems with fonts in the help.

My favourite workaround is just installing the windows IDL help file on

the PC.

Jaco
Re: idl, color and exceed xserver? [message #29114 is a reply to message #28978] Wed, 30 January 2002 11:42 Go to previous message
Jonathan Joseph is currently offline  Jonathan Joseph
Messages: 69
Registered: September 1998
Member
I am using exceed (7.0) on a Win2k machine and running IDL from a
Solaris 8 box. It works OK mostly, except if I try to bring up the IDL
online help, it crashes exceed session!!! Rather annoying. Has anyone
seen (or solved) that problem?

-Jonathan

"Michael A. Miller" wrote:
>
> I'm using exceed to connect to unix machines from a windows 2000
> machine. There is a particular application that I can use when I
> log in at the unix (HP-US in this case) console. When I connect
> from a windows 2000 machine and use exceed and hwm (exceed's
> window manager) to display on my screen, I often get errors
> related to color maps. Is there anyone out there in IDL land who
> has used exceed and can suggest some exceed configuration options
> that might help idl tolerate it better?
>
> Mike
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