| Re: Any update on OS X [message #29755] |
Mon, 18 March 2002 09:11 |
Pavel A. Romashkin
Messages: 531
Registered: November 2000
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As far as I know RSI received what they need to fix the reported bug in
Mac IDL v. 5.5. The reason they just sit on it is unknown to me.
One upside is that they at least *wanted* to have the fix. This may mean
that they have not given up completely.
Cheers,
Pavel
Struan Gray wrote:
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> Has anyone receieved any info on the proposed
> solution(s) for IDL on Mac OS X? My maintainence is up for
> renewal and I'm facing strong arguments for simply dropping
> IDL. RSI promised me that "something good" would be
> available by now, but nothing whatsoever has happened (in
> public at least).
>
> I'm not asking for people to break confidentiality
> agreements, just giving IDL one last chance before I pull
> the plug.
>
> Struan
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| Re: Any update on OS X [message #29756 is a reply to message #29755] |
Mon, 18 March 2002 04:27  |
John McLeod
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2002
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I have been in communication with RSI over the last couple of days and
would characterize their response as helpful and cautiously optimistic on
this issue. I had suggested, by-the-way, that they reply to the first post
in this chain,
and that the poster was not the only one concerned about OS X support.
In any case, a query on OS X directed at support@rsinc.com (for those with
support)
might be a good and timely idea.
"Kenneth Bowman" <k-bowman@null.tamu.edu> wrote in message
news:k-bowman-1F73A0.10441917032002@news.tamu.edu...
> In article <a6sfoe$lhg$1@news.lth.se>,
> Struan Gray <struan.gray@sljus.lu.se> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone receieved any info on the proposed
>> solution(s) for IDL on Mac OS X?
>
> I recently submitted a bug report for IDL 5.5 running in Classic
> mode under OS X. The reply included this
>
>> Unfortunately, since we do not have an operable Mac OSX machine
>> inhouse and do not plan to continue the support for
>> Macs; I needed to research the bug on other OS systems ...
>
> I hope this is just poor communication between support and development,
> but I am very concerned. I just spent a lot of money based on their
> press release of 2001-12-03, which said ...
>
>> RSI plans to provide a special pre-release of IDL for Mac OS X
>> to customers in Q1, 2002, and officially release the final version
>> based on customer feedback from the pre-release.
>
> The press release also said ...
>
>> For the Macintosh OS X platform, RSI will be providing a native
>> release using Tenon Intersystems' Xtools X-Windows server, giving
>> customers the benefit of OS X's Unix core while providing a Motif
>> interface similar to that provided on other Unix platforms.
>
> I submitted a question to info@ResearchSystems.com inquiring
> about whether the upcoming OS X version would work with other
> X Windows servers (e.g. eXodus). So far (3 weeks later), I have received
> no reply. Not even a "sorry, we don't know" or "sorry, we can't answer
> that".
>
> Since I need X Windows servers now, I expect that I will have to go ahead
> and spend ~$600 for software that will either be redundant (if I
> buy XTools) or unusable (if I buy eXodus) when (if) IDL for OS X ships.
>
>
> Ken
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| Re: Any update on OS X [message #29757 is a reply to message #29756] |
Mon, 18 March 2002 04:17 |
Struan Gray
Messages: 178
Registered: December 1995
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Kenneth Bowman, k-bowman@null.tamu.edu writes:
> I just spent a lot of money based on their
> press release of 2001-12-03 ..
I'm sorry to hear that you too are getting the mushroom
treatment.
We've rehearsed the pro- and anti-mac arguments already
here, and I don't really want to do that again. I like IDL,
and will carry on using my existing programs in 5.5, but I
have no reason to prefer IDL over other, cheaper
alternatives if Mac support is dropped. It's a shame, but
RSI/Kodak are not the only ones having to be unsentimental
about costs these days.
Can I still come to the IDL elite programmers' meetings
if I don't have an active license? How about if I offer to
fill the hot tub each morning?
Struan
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| Re: Any update on OS X [message #29758 is a reply to message #29757] |
Sun, 17 March 2002 13:40 |
Bernard K.
Messages: 11
Registered: October 2001
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Hi Kenneth,
before spending some money on commercial X-Windows systems,
you should consider installing Xfree first. Even if you only have
a limited experience with Unix it's easy to install and setup.
Functionality is really great.
You should visit http://www.mrcla.com/XonX/ for detailed information.
When you have installed the server and Xdarwin you can
replace the (ugly?) default window manager by for example windowmaker:
http://www.osxgnu.org/software/Xwin/WindowManagers/WindowMak er/
(there are other choices of course).
Cheers,
Bernard.
In article <k-bowman-1F73A0.10441917032002@news.tamu.edu>, Kenneth
Bowman <k-bowman@null.tamu.edu> wrote:
> In article <a6sfoe$lhg$1@news.lth.se>,
> Struan Gray <struan.gray@sljus.lu.se> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone receieved any info on the proposed
>> solution(s) for IDL on Mac OS X?
>
> I recently submitted a bug report for IDL 5.5 running in Classic
> mode under OS X. The reply included this
>
>> Unfortunately, since we do not have an operable Mac OSX machine
>> inhouse and do not plan to continue the support for
>> Macs; I needed to research the bug on other OS systems ...
>
> I hope this is just poor communication between support and development,
> but I am very concerned. I just spent a lot of money based on their
> press release of 2001-12-03, which said ...
>
>> RSI plans to provide a special pre-release of IDL for Mac OS X
>> to customers in Q1, 2002, and officially release the final version
>> based on customer feedback from the pre-release.
>
> The press release also said ...
>
>> For the Macintosh OS X platform, RSI will be providing a native
>> release using Tenon Intersystems' Xtools X-Windows server, giving
>> customers the benefit of OS X's Unix core while providing a Motif
>> interface similar to that provided on other Unix platforms.
>
> I submitted a question to info@ResearchSystems.com inquiring
> about whether the upcoming OS X version would work with other
> X Windows servers (e.g. eXodus). So far (3 weeks later), I have received
> no reply. Not even a "sorry, we don't know" or "sorry, we can't answer
> that".
>
> Since I need X Windows servers now, I expect that I will have to go ahead
> and spend ~$600 for software that will either be redundant (if I
> buy XTools) or unusable (if I buy eXodus) when (if) IDL for OS X ships.
>
>
> Ken
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| Re: Any update on OS X [message #29759 is a reply to message #29758] |
Sun, 17 March 2002 08:44 |
K. Bowman
Messages: 330
Registered: May 2000
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In article <a6sfoe$lhg$1@news.lth.se>,
Struan Gray <struan.gray@sljus.lu.se> wrote:
> Has anyone receieved any info on the proposed
> solution(s) for IDL on Mac OS X?
I recently submitted a bug report for IDL 5.5 running in Classic
mode under OS X. The reply included this
> Unfortunately, since we do not have an operable Mac OSX machine
> inhouse and do not plan to continue the support for
> Macs; I needed to research the bug on other OS systems ...
I hope this is just poor communication between support and development,
but I am very concerned. I just spent a lot of money based on their
press release of 2001-12-03, which said ...
> RSI plans to provide a special pre-release of IDL for Mac OS X
> to customers in Q1, 2002, and officially release the final version
> based on customer feedback from the pre-release.
The press release also said ...
> For the Macintosh OS X platform, RSI will be providing a native
> release using Tenon Intersystems' Xtools X-Windows server, giving
> customers the benefit of OS X's Unix core while providing a Motif
> interface similar to that provided on other Unix platforms.
I submitted a question to info@ResearchSystems.com inquiring
about whether the upcoming OS X version would work with other
X Windows servers (e.g. eXodus). So far (3 weeks later), I have received
no reply. Not even a "sorry, we don't know" or "sorry, we can't answer
that".
Since I need X Windows servers now, I expect that I will have to go ahead
and spend ~$600 for software that will either be redundant (if I
buy XTools) or unusable (if I buy eXodus) when (if) IDL for OS X ships.
Ken
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