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Files opened by other processes [message #30923] Tue, 28 May 2002 17:22 Go to next message
Daniel Peduzzi is currently offline  Daniel Peduzzi
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Registered: June 1999
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Has anybody been able to use IDL to detect if *other* processes
have a particular file open?

As an example, let's say I would like to open a file for read access
after it has been written by an FTP process. I certainly don't
want to open it until the file transfer is complete...but how will I
know?

I looked at the FSTAT function, but unless I've overlooked
something, I don't think it will suffice. This is on a UNIX system
running SunOS, so if I have to write something in C for IDL to
spawn, I guess I'll be posting to another newsgroup soon. ;- )

Dan

Daniel C. Peduzzi
peduzzi@attbi.com
Re: Files opened by other processes [message #31005 is a reply to message #30923] Wed, 29 May 2002 09:15 Go to previous message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
Messages: 1424
Registered: November 1998
Senior Member
Nigel Wade wrote:
>
> Daniel Peduzzi wrote:
>
>> Has anybody been able to use IDL to detect if *other* processes
>> have a particular file open?
>>
>> As an example, let's say I would like to open a file for read access
>> after it has been written by an FTP process. I certainly don't
>> want to open it until the file transfer is complete...but how will I
>> know?
>>
>> I looked at the FSTAT function, but unless I've overlooked
>> something, I don't think it will suffice. This is on a UNIX system
>> running SunOS, so if I have to write something in C for IDL to
>> spawn, I guess I'll be posting to another newsgroup soon. ;- )
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Daniel C. Peduzzi
>> peduzzi@attbi.com
>
> The simple answer is that it's very complicated. There are no really good
> ways to determine when a file transfer is complete. Just checking for the
> file being open (if you can do this) won't tell you if the file transfer
> didn't complete - the file will still be closed, but incomplete.
>
> It's quite a common problem to want to be able to process files after they
> have been transferred by FTP, but I've not yet found a good, general,
> solution. Two possibilities spring to mind:
>
> a) transfer the file under a temporary name, and then get the sender to
> rename it when the transfer completes.

My linux transfers files with extension .part and if it's ready then the
file
is renamed.
This could be a feature of the package wu-ftp. May be this is available
for you too.


> b) prior to sending the file, send a temporary file with a byte count and
> checksum for the file. Don't use the file until the byte count and checksum
> for it agree with those sent.
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Nigel Wade, System Administrator, Space Plasma Physics Group,
> University of Leicester, Leicester, LE1 7RH, UK
> E-mail : nmw@ion.le.ac.uk
> Phone : +44 (0)116 2523568, Fax : +44 (0)116 2523555

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Institut fuer Stratosphaerische Chemie (ICG-I)
Forschungszentrum Juelich
email: R.Bauer@fz-juelich.de
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Re: Files opened by other processes [message #31020 is a reply to message #30923] Wed, 29 May 2002 01:38 Go to previous message
Nigel Wade is currently offline  Nigel Wade
Messages: 286
Registered: March 1998
Senior Member
Daniel Peduzzi wrote:

> Has anybody been able to use IDL to detect if *other* processes
> have a particular file open?
>
> As an example, let's say I would like to open a file for read access
> after it has been written by an FTP process. I certainly don't
> want to open it until the file transfer is complete...but how will I
> know?
>
> I looked at the FSTAT function, but unless I've overlooked
> something, I don't think it will suffice. This is on a UNIX system
> running SunOS, so if I have to write something in C for IDL to
> spawn, I guess I'll be posting to another newsgroup soon. ;- )
>
> Dan
>
> Daniel C. Peduzzi
> peduzzi@attbi.com

The simple answer is that it's very complicated. There are no really good
ways to determine when a file transfer is complete. Just checking for the
file being open (if you can do this) won't tell you if the file transfer
didn't complete - the file will still be closed, but incomplete.

It's quite a common problem to want to be able to process files after they
have been transferred by FTP, but I've not yet found a good, general,
solution. Two possibilities spring to mind:

a) transfer the file under a temporary name, and then get the sender to
rename it when the transfer completes.
b) prior to sending the file, send a temporary file with a byte count and
checksum for the file. Don't use the file until the byte count and checksum
for it agree with those sent.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
Nigel Wade, System Administrator, Space Plasma Physics Group,
University of Leicester, Leicester, LE1 7RH, UK
E-mail : nmw@ion.le.ac.uk
Phone : +44 (0)116 2523568, Fax : +44 (0)116 2523555
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