| changing editors? [message #31287] |
Mon, 24 June 2002 10:46  |
tim.gunter
Messages: 2
Registered: June 2002
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Hi all-
I'm running IDL 5.4 on Windows 2k. I have been trying to figure out
if there is a way to change from the default IDL editor to a different
one, such as gvim. Also it appears there is no way to run IDL from the
command line under windows, is there any way to do so?
Any help on getting IDL to work better with command line utils(in
particular cygwin) would be helpful.
thanks
-tim
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| Re: changing editors? [message #31383 is a reply to message #31287] |
Wed, 10 July 2002 00:47  |
MKatz843
Messages: 98
Registered: March 2002
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> So this is most probably a stupid question, but why not chuck windows
> and use one of the approximately zillion Linux flavors out there? You
> seem to be using your win-box mostly as a u*x box anyways, so why not
> just go that one last step?
I've got an even better UNIX box on my desk. It's called a Mac, with
OS X.
Actually, I never realized that IDL for Windows doesn't have a
command-line interface until I read this thread. How can you all
tolerate the hassle this causes? (Now I understand why my PC
colleagues use Matlab.) IDL's Classic Mac interface is a great joy to
use, complete with command line (including command completion), a
wonderful editor with syntax coloring (even on the command line), and
loads of diagnostics. No need for bizarre kludges. I especially
appreciate the way program errors or interruptions bring your cursor
right to the offending line or stop point in an editor window.
With Classic support going away, the new Mac interface (now overdue)
will be an Xwindows (XFree86, actually) implementation--which also
runs beautifully on the Mac. I hope they can maintain some of the
great features from the Mac IDL environment, it's a great time saver
over programming in a Linux/Unix emacs/vi/whatever world.
With Linux, watch out of annoying, picky
widget/window/color/graphics/font issues and inconsistencies. In my
cross-platform life, I've spent days working out problems for Linux
that don't exist on the Mac.
My 2-cents,
M. Katz
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| Re: changing editors? [message #31434 is a reply to message #31383] |
Fri, 12 July 2002 01:46 |
R.Bauer
Messages: 1424
Registered: November 1998
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"M. Katz" wrote:
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>> So this is most probably a stupid question, but why not chuck windows
>> and use one of the approximately zillion Linux flavors out there? You
>> seem to be using your win-box mostly as a u*x box anyways, so why not
>> just go that one last step?
>
> I've got an even better UNIX box on my desk. It's called a Mac, with
> OS X.
>
> Actually, I never realized that IDL for Windows doesn't have a
> command-line interface until I read this thread. How can you all
> tolerate the hassle this causes? (Now I understand why my PC
> colleagues use Matlab.) IDL's Classic Mac interface is a great joy to
> use, complete with command line (including command completion), a
> wonderful editor with syntax coloring (even on the command line), and
> loads of diagnostics. No need for bizarre kludges. I especially
> appreciate the way program errors or interruptions bring your cursor
> right to the offending line or stop point in an editor window.
>
> With Classic support going away, the new Mac interface (now overdue)
> will be an Xwindows (XFree86, actually) implementation--which also
> runs beautifully on the Mac. I hope they can maintain some of the
> great features from the Mac IDL environment, it's a great time saver
> over programming in a Linux/Unix emacs/vi/whatever world.
>
> With Linux, watch out of annoying, picky
> widget/window/color/graphics/font issues and inconsistencies. In my
> cross-platform life, I've spent days working out problems for Linux
> that don't exist on the Mac.
>
> My 2-cents,
> M. Katz
Dear M.Katz,
I am waiting since a few years for a new IDLDE editor for unix.
A few years ago they have added color coding to idlde and have removed
this by idl5.4.
With the kde it should not quite complicated if you have a look at kate
to set up an environment which it's nearly the same functionality.
Someone who knows emacs and the many plug-ins available and the idl mode
has much more functionality as the idlde can give.
With emacs you can directly exchange source with a cvs archive and show
the differnces.
This is one more feature the next idlde should have.
I don't know why they don't pay some money to some kde programmers
to develop a really new idlde. Many things could be taken from
kdevstudio.
Reimar
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Reimar Bauer
Institut fuer Stratosphaerische Chemie (ICG-I)
Forschungszentrum Juelich
email: R.Bauer@fz-juelich.de
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| Re: changing editors? [message #31440 is a reply to message #31383] |
Thu, 11 July 2002 16:51 |
condor
Messages: 35
Registered: January 2002
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MKatz843@onebox.com (M. Katz) wrote in message news:<4a097d6a.0207092347.4620d5e5@posting.google.com>...
> IDL's Classic Mac interface is a great joy to
> use, complete with command line (including command completion), a
> wonderful editor with syntax coloring (even on the command line), and
> loads of diagnostics. No need for bizarre kludges. I especially
> appreciate the way program errors or interruptions bring your cursor
> right to the offending line or stop point in an editor window.
All of which are old hat in emacs's idlwave environment...
> it's a great time saver
> over programming in a Linux/Unix emacs/vi/whatever world.
It's been a couple years since you've touched a unix, box, hasn't it?
> With Linux, watch out of annoying, picky
> widget/window/color/graphics/font issues and inconsistencies. In my
> cross-platform life, I've spent days working out problems for Linux
> that don't exist on the Mac.
Well - that seems like a slightly unfair comparison - obviously
there's no debugging incompatible graphics for computers that force
you to use one particular type of graphics card. The problem isn't
terribly new: if you allow many different xyz, then you're buying that
freedom with having to support those xyz and with having to write
software that is independent of them. Half of the Linux newsgroups are
full with win-people and mac-people complaining about the sheer
openness of linux and half of the win- and mac- NGs are full of linux
people whining how they're restricted in their choice of xyz's.
My coding philosophy has always been to support the "most common"
things and then the "most up-to-date" things. And if you get slightly
funny colors on your monitor, maybe I'll have time to provide for your
case or then again maybe you should't have bought that WeirdoXP
IdioSyc Marc II graphics card that nobody has ever heard of and for
which there exists no documentation on the net...
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