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Re: displaying things above the earth in a map projection [message #32220] Wed, 25 September 2002 10:47 Go to next message
John R. Iverson is currently offline  John R. Iverson
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Registered: September 2002
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First of all, thanks!

Second, I have 2 questions:

1. it doesn't seem like this works while preserving the orthographic
projection. Is there any way I can use the transformation set up by the
map_set command to throw my data into space?

2. I guess I just don't understand why this command doesn't do what I
think it should? (draw a line from the map to the symbol you brought up
earlier):

plots, [45, 45], [45, 45], [0, 0.25], /t3d

I really appreciate the help given to this IDL newbie!

-Rob

David Fanning wrote:
>
> John R. Iverson (jrivers@sandia.gov) writes:
>
>> Is there a way to plot things above the earth when using any kind of map
>> projection?
>>
>> I tried plots, [-106], [35], [1.5], psym=5 but it always shows up on the
>> surface. I tried adding a /t3d to that command.
>>
>> Is there any way to do this? I think I'd prefer to stick with direct
>> graphics...
>
> scale3, xrange=[-180, 180], yrange=[-90, 90], zrange=[0,1]
> map_set, /cylindrical, /t3d, /grid, /continent
> plots, 45, 45, 0.25, /t3d, psym=4, symsize=5.0
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
> --
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Re: displaying things above the earth in a map projection [message #32239 is a reply to message #32220] Tue, 24 September 2002 14:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Andy Loughe is currently offline  Andy Loughe
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Registered: November 1995
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David- Any idea why the isotropic keyword fails for this
map_set example? (using IDL 5.3)
It works for other projections. Strange.

David Fanning wrote:
> scale3, xrange=[-180, 180], yrange=[-90, 90], zrange=[0,1]
> map_set, /cylindrical, /t3d, /grid, /continent
> plots, 45, 45, 0.25, /t3d, psym=4, symsize=5.0
>
> Cheers,
>
> David


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Re: displaying things above the earth in a map projection [message #32241 is a reply to message #32239] Tue, 24 September 2002 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001
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John R. Iverson (jrivers@sandia.gov) writes:

> Is there a way to plot things above the earth when using any kind of map
> projection?
>
> I tried plots, [-106], [35], [1.5], psym=5 but it always shows up on the
> surface. I tried adding a /t3d to that command.
>
> Is there any way to do this? I think I'd prefer to stick with direct
> graphics...

scale3, xrange=[-180, 180], yrange=[-90, 90], zrange=[0,1]
map_set, /cylindrical, /t3d, /grid, /continent
plots, 45, 45, 0.25, /t3d, psym=4, symsize=5.0

Cheers,

David
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Phone: 970-221-0438, E-mail: david@dfanning.com
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Re: displaying things above the earth in a map projection [message #32305 is a reply to message #32220] Wed, 25 September 2002 20:16 Go to previous message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001
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John R. Iverson (jrivers@sandia.gov) writes:

> 1. it doesn't seem like this works while preserving the orthographic
> projection. Is there any way I can use the transformation set up by the
> map_set command to throw my data into space?

Well, let me just say this: I don't think the IDL
graphic system was built with this kind of thing
in mind. :-)

I don't know why certain may projections don't work,
nor do I know why there is all kinds of clipping going
on when you try to do an ISOTROPIC map projection. I
suspect there are bugs in the interaction between the
system variables set up by the map routines, and the
system variables relied on by the plotting routines.
All totally confused by trying to do all of this in
3D space.

> 2. I guess I just don't understand why this command doesn't do what I
> think it should? (draw a line from the map to the symbol you brought up
> earlier):
>
> plots, [45, 45], [45, 45], [0, 0.25], /t3d
>
> I really appreciate the help given to this IDL newbie!

I don't understand this one either. In fact, I had exactly
this line in my original example and couldn't figure out why
it didn't work. I know PLOTS can do this, because I was
staring at page 98 in my book where I used the PLOTS command
to do practically this very thing! As I had to go to a tennis
match, I just chalked it up to the "eternal mystery" and left
it off the example I posted, hoping no one would notice the
obvious line missing. Well, alas. :-(

For what it is worth, I notice that no line is drawn with
this code:

scale3, xrange=[-180, 180], yrange=[-90, 90], zrange=[0,1]
plots, [45, 45], [45, 45], [0, 0.25], /t3d
map_set, /cylindrical, /t3d, /grid, /continent, /NoErase
plots, 45, 45, 0.25, /t3d, psym=4, symsize=5.0

But it *is* drawn with this code:

erase
surface, xrange=[-180, 180], yrange=[-90, 90], zrange=[0,1], $
/Save, Dist(41), /NoData, XStyle=4, YStyle=4, ZStyle=5
plots, [45, 45], [45, 45], [0, 0.25], /t3d
map_set, /cylindrical, /t3d, /grid, /continent, /NoErase
plots, 45, 45, 0.25, /t3d, psym=4, symsize=5.0

I don't have the foggiest notion of what this means. It
seems to me *exactly* the same 3D space is being set
up in both cases, but obviously something is different.
I don't know what it might be.

Sorry I can't help. I can get you a free pass to the
IEPA Induction Dinner next month, if you are interested.
You won't learn anything about IDL there, either, but
it sure is interesting. :-)

Cheers,

David


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Re: displaying things above the earth in a map projection [message #32316 is a reply to message #32220] Wed, 25 September 2002 11:38 Go to previous message
James Kuyper is currently offline  James Kuyper
Messages: 425
Registered: March 2000
Senior Member
"John R. Iverson" wrote:
...
> 2. I guess I just don't understand why this command doesn't do what I
> think it should? (draw a line from the map to the symbol you brought up
> earlier):
>
> plots, [45, 45], [45, 45], [0, 0.25], /t3d
>

Well, I've figured out what it's doing. I can't say that I understand
why. Try the following:

plots, 10*indgen(9),90-10*indgen(9),0.1*indgen(9),/t3

Apparantly it draws each line segment at a constant Z value equal to the
Z value at the start of the line segment. Therefore, in particular, for
your command it draws a straight line from [45,45,0] to [45,45,0].

Would anyone care to enlighten me as to why this was considered a
worthwhile thing to do?
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