| Re: OSX: syntax coloring? [message #33228] |
Mon, 16 December 2002 06:42  |
K. Bowman
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In article <4a097d6a.0212151916.6e5a5565@posting.google.com>,
MKatz843@onebox.com (M. Katz) wrote:
> I love BBEdit and I use it all the time for HTML and whatnot, but
> there'd be a slight hitch. Even if you got syntax coloring to work, it
> would still be great to have a "compile" button and an "execute"
> button in the text window, as in the IDL environment on 5.4 (& 5.5?).
> Plus there's that great feature that when there's a breakpoint or a
> crash, the editor opens up the proper file and takes you to the
> offending line. Would _that_ be possible in BBedit?
You can run shell scripts (or Applescripts) from inside BBEdit, but
getting it to communicate with an already-running IDL process is beyond
my meager Unix skills.
Ken
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| Re: OSX: syntax coloring? [message #33235 is a reply to message #33229] |
Mon, 16 December 2002 02:09  |
David Burridge
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Oh, beware David! Vi does not have users ... it has disciples!-) And anyhow,
isn't the rule about time-taken-to-learn vs reluctance-to-change doubly
relevant here?
Dave
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"David Fanning" <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message
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> M. Katz (MKatz843@onebox.com) writes:
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>> I think I'm going to have to learn emacs over the holidays. vi won't
>> cut it any longer.
>
> vi!? vi stopped cutting it in 1956, didn't it?
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> --
> David W. Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
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| Re: OSX: syntax coloring? [message #33258 is a reply to message #33255] |
Fri, 13 December 2002 14:58 |
Bernard Knaepen
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Registered: October 2002
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In article <MPG.18640f6a17639410989a6a@news.frii.com>, David Fanning
<david@dfanning.com> wrote:
> Bernard Knaepen (bknaepen@ulb.ac.be) writes:
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>> Just by curiosity, what makes implementation difficult? IDL 5.5 on
>> MacOS Classic has color syntaxing and as far as I can tell from the
>> documention Windows also has it. Does it have to do with X11?
>
> Apparently not, since EMACS can use color syntaxing.
>
> You are new to the group, so you probably don't know
> I make up all my "facts" about RSI, but I can imagine
> that if I were there I wouldn't want to work on an
> impossibly thank-less task like writing a feature that
> the IDLWAVE mode is going to handle better anyway.
>
> I think RSI is just being realistic. Why invest time
> and money in something no one is going to use. (Well,
> INSIGHT comes to mind, but that's another story.)
> Everyone I know (including every developer at RSI
> I ever knew) uses the IDLWAVE EMACS mode. I think
> that's the bottom line. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
Well, I thought it was going to be an unproductive friday afternoon
for me today but it isn't. I installed emacs from the fink distribution
(OSX) and then the standard IDLWAVE EMACS mode. Everything wen't
smooth (not a systematic experience for me when I enter the Unix world)
and voila, I have an editor that interacts with IDL and that looks very
nice. That feels good...
Cheers,
Bernard.
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| Re: OSX: syntax coloring? [message #33260 is a reply to message #33259] |
Fri, 13 December 2002 14:38 |
David Fanning
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Bernard Knaepen (bknaepen@ulb.ac.be) writes:
> Just by curiosity, what makes implementation difficult? IDL 5.5 on
> MacOS Classic has color syntaxing and as far as I can tell from the
> documention Windows also has it. Does it have to do with X11?
Apparently not, since EMACS can use color syntaxing.
You are new to the group, so you probably don't know
I make up all my "facts" about RSI, but I can imagine
that if I were there I wouldn't want to work on an
impossibly thank-less task like writing a feature that
the IDLWAVE mode is going to handle better anyway.
I think RSI is just being realistic. Why invest time
and money in something no one is going to use. (Well,
INSIGHT comes to mind, but that's another story.)
Everyone I know (including every developer at RSI
I ever knew) uses the IDLWAVE EMACS mode. I think
that's the bottom line. :-)
Cheers,
David
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David W. Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Phone: 970-221-0438, E-mail: david@dfanning.com
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Toll-Free IDL Book Orders: 1-888-461-0155
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| Re: OSX: syntax coloring? [message #33262 is a reply to message #33261] |
Fri, 13 December 2002 14:08 |
Bernard Knaepen
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Registered: October 2002
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In article <MPG.186405d0bf5243f9989a69@news.frii.com>, David Fanning
<david@dfanning.com> wrote:
> Bernard Knaepen (bknaepen@ulb.ac.be) writes:
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>> That's the only way? No built-in support?
>
> RSI has tried to get engineers to do it, but no one
> volunteered even when they doubled the salary offer.
> Believe me, it's painful to be shamed by JD and Carsten,
> and no one, including the fine folks at RSI, wants to go
> anywhere near this project. :-(
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
Just by curiosity, what makes implementation difficult? IDL 5.5 on
MacOS Classic has color syntaxing and as far as I can tell from the
documention Windows also has it. Does it have to do with X11?
Cheers,
Bernard.
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| Re: OSX: syntax coloring? [message #33263 is a reply to message #33262] |
Fri, 13 December 2002 13:57 |
David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001
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Bernard Knaepen (bknaepen@ulb.ac.be) writes:
> That's the only way? No built-in support?
RSI has tried to get engineers to do it, but no one
volunteered even when they doubled the salary offer.
Believe me, it's painful to be shamed by JD and Carsten,
and no one, including the fine folks at RSI, wants to go
anywhere near this project. :-(
Cheers,
David
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David W. Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Phone: 970-221-0438, E-mail: david@dfanning.com
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Toll-Free IDL Book Orders: 1-888-461-0155
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| Re: OSX: syntax coloring? [message #33274 is a reply to message #33263] |
Tue, 17 December 2002 09:25 |
Carsten Dominik
Messages: 45
Registered: February 1998
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>>>> > "DF" == David Fanning <david@dfanning.com> writes:
DF> Bernard Knaepen (bknaepen@ulb.ac.be) writes:
>> That's the only way? No built-in support?
DF> RSI has tried to get engineers to do it, but no one
DF> volunteered even when they doubled the salary offer.
DF> Believe me, it's painful to be shamed by JD and Carsten,
DF> and no one, including the fine folks at RSI, wants to go
DF> anywhere near this project. :-(
:-)
Well, on the other side: A while ago after I got my iBook, I did ask
RSI a to put me on the beta-tester distribution in order to check out
if IDLWAVE would work well under MacOSX. I did not get a reply to my
request - so I am not sure how much truth is in your nice story.
- Carsten
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| Re: OSX: syntax coloring? [message #33279 is a reply to message #33258] |
Tue, 17 December 2002 08:56 |
Carsten Dominik
Messages: 45
Registered: February 1998
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>>>> > "BK" == Bernard Knaepen <bknaepen@ulb.ac.be> writes:
BK> Well, I thought it was going to be an unproductive friday afternoon
BK> for me today but it isn't. I installed emacs from the fink distribution
BK> (OSX) and then the standard IDLWAVE EMACS mode. Everything wen't
BK> smooth (not a systematic experience for me when I enter the Unix world)
BK> and voila, I have an editor that interacts with IDL and that looks very
BK> nice. That feels good...
BK> Cheers,
BK> Bernard.
Nice to hear.
Make sure to go to idlwave.org and download the online-help files
which are not part of emacs.
- Carsten
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