| Re: IDL 5.6, MacOSX, IDLWAVE, Xemacs, and suicide [message #33576] |
Thu, 16 January 2003 03:06  |
Edd Edmondson
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David Bowman <dbowman@fullerton.edu> wrote:
> Can somebody tell me an easy, straightforward way to install a Xemacs
> and idlwave? Please, treat me as the complete moron that I feel like.
> Include things like web sites where the programs can be downloaded.
> I'm sure this would be appreciated by many other stranded Mac IDL
> users.
Oh, and if you choose to install xemacs or emacs from source then make
sure you have the Apple developer tools (you'll have them either on CD
or you should be able to d/l them from Apple too I think)
Going increasingly offtopic with all this, you'll probably also find that
Apple's X11 is much much faster than OroborOSX. I'd definitely recommend
you get that.
--
Edd
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| Re: IDL 5.6, MacOSX, IDLWAVE, Xemacs, and suicide [message #33577 is a reply to message #33576] |
Thu, 16 January 2003 01:43  |
Carsten Dominik
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>>>> > "DB" == David Bowman <dbowman@fullerton.edu> writes:
DB> Can somebody tell me an easy, straightforward way to install a Xemacs
DB> and idlwave? Please, treat me as the complete moron that I feel like.
DB> Include things like web sites where the programs can be downloaded.
DB> I'm sure this would be appreciated by many other stranded Mac IDL
DB> users.
Relax, it is easy when you know where to look.
1. Get Emacs. Currently under MacOS X, I recommend Emacs, not XEmacs.
You can get a binary package from
http://mindlube.com/developer/
Follow the instructions to install it (trivial).
The default font in this Emacs is a bit odd. Also, since you seem
to come from a Mac background, you probably want the Command key to
behave normally when you work with Emacs. Therefore, create a
".emacs" file in your home directory and insert the following
lines:
;; 10pt Monaco.
(set-default-font "-apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--10-120-75-75-m-120-mac-roman ")
;; Make option act as meta.
(setq mac-command-key-is-meta nil)
2. That version of Emacs already contains IDLWAVE, fully installed.
Any .pro files will automatically be edited in IDLWAVE mode. To
round things off, you want to add to .emacs
;; Syntax coloring
(global-font-lock-mode 1)
;; Tell Emacs where the idl binary is.
(setq idlwave-shell-explicit-file-name "/usr/local/rsi/idl/bin/idl")
;; Start IDL when needed
(setq idlwave-shell-automatic-start t)
That should get you up and running. Good luck.
- Carsten
P.S.
For the IDLWAVE manual, go to http://idlwave.org. Also, if you
want to use IDLWAVE's help system, download the help files from
there and follow the instructions in the README file to install
them. Basically: Put all the files in a directory and tell Emacs
where they are with (again in .emacs)
(setq idlwave-help-directory "/full/path/to/helpfiles")
I see that you use OroborOSX and XDarwin. That is fine. You may want
to consider trying apples X11 at
http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/
It is still a beta version but works well, is fast and
automatically gives you a window manager which shows all the X11
application windows on the normal desktop. Check out RSI's tech
note about running idl with Apple's X11 at
http://www.rsinc.com/services/techtip.asp?ttid=3444
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| Re: IDL 5.6, MacOSX, IDLWAVE, Xemacs, and suicide [message #33578 is a reply to message #33577] |
Thu, 16 January 2003 02:00 |
Edd Edmondson
Messages: 50
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David Bowman <dbowman@fullerton.edu> wrote:
> I've decided that the best option is to install Xemacs and IDLWAVE.
> 3 days later, I'm ready to switch to matlab.
> Can somebody tell me an easy, straightforward way to install a Xemacs
> and idlwave? Please, treat me as the complete moron that I feel like.
> Include things like web sites where the programs can be downloaded.
> I'm sure this would be appreciated by many other stranded Mac IDL
> users.
I've not used IDL on my Mac yet, but xemacs compiled fine from the source
using the standard instructions (once X11 is installed - see the Apple
website), if you can't get it using fink (www.xemacs.org and
fink.sourceforge.net respectively).
Check the xemacs.org website for full docs and installation instructions
and mail me if you still need help.
--
Edd
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| Re: IDL 5.6, MacOSX, IDLWAVE, Xemacs, and suicide [message #33579 is a reply to message #33577] |
Thu, 16 January 2003 00:39 |
dbowman
Messages: 5
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Sorry, I had to finish my earlier message in a hurry... Here's the
important details - I'm running MacOS X 10.2.3 on a dual G4 tower.
I'm using OroborOSX v0.8b. I've very little experience with emacs (and
that was 4 years ago), and I think "lisp" is what you do when you've
bitten your tongue.
Thanks in advance for any help.
David B. (not Fanning!)
dbowman@fullerton.edu (David Bowman) wrote in message news:<f1ba8313.0301151825.57c1c5f9@posting.google.com>...
> I've been spending several days trying to get IDL 5.6 and all of the
> ancillary programs up and running on my G4 tower. After much pulling
> of hair and gnashing of teeth, I was able to get it going. Of course,
> I soon discovered that the "new and improved" (HA!) version does not
> include the wonderful (or at least functional) editor that was
> standard in the old Mac Classic version (5.5). After reading through
> the many postings of the wise and learned seers on this newsgroup,
> I've decided that the best option is to install Xemacs and IDLWAVE.
>
> 3 days later, I'm ready to switch to matlab.
>
> Can somebody tell me an easy, straightforward way to install a Xemacs
> and idlwave? Please, treat me as the complete moron that I feel like.
> Include things like web sites where the programs can be downloaded.
> I'm sure this would be appreciated by many other stranded Mac IDL
> users.
>
> Thanks in advance.
> David
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| Re: IDL 5.6, MacOSX, IDLWAVE, Xemacs [message #33715 is a reply to message #33577] |
Thu, 16 January 2003 11:50 |
dbowman
Messages: 5
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Muchos Gracias... That did the trick. I can see that this is going
to have a steep learning curve. I'm overflowing with questions, but
it's nothing that a few months with the documentation can't solve!
:-)
It's still a pity to lose the old built-in editor. It was so much
simpler to have everything in one package. I (obviously) make no
claims to be a programmer - for me, IDL was the best, fastest way to
solve scientific problems without delving into all the complexities of
writing and maintaining "real code". Alas, this is the price one pays
for relying too heavily on a commercial package - they can change the
rules whenever they want... *sigh*
Again many hearty thanks for everyone's help.
-david
Carsten Dominik <dominik@_DROP_THIS_science.uva.nl> wrote in message news:<qzuiswpjuq9.fsf@sand.science.uva.nl>...
>>>> >> "DB" == David Bowman <dbowman@fullerton.edu> writes:
>
> DB> Can somebody tell me an easy, straightforward way to install a Xemacs
> DB> and idlwave? Please, treat me as the complete moron that I feel like.
> DB> Include things like web sites where the programs can be downloaded.
> DB> I'm sure this would be appreciated by many other stranded Mac IDL
> DB> users.
>
> Relax, it is easy when you know where to look.
>
> 1. Get Emacs. Currently under MacOS X, I recommend Emacs, not XEmacs.
> You can get a binary package from
>
> http://mindlube.com/developer/
>
> Follow the instructions to install it (trivial).
>
> The default font in this Emacs is a bit odd. Also, since you seem
> to come from a Mac background, you probably want the Command key to
> behave normally when you work with Emacs. Therefore, create a
> ".emacs" file in your home directory and insert the following
> lines:
>
> ;; 10pt Monaco.
> (set-default-font "-apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--10-120-75-75-m-120-mac-roman ")
> ;; Make option act as meta.
> (setq mac-command-key-is-meta nil)
>
> 2. That version of Emacs already contains IDLWAVE, fully installed.
> Any .pro files will automatically be edited in IDLWAVE mode. To
> round things off, you want to add to .emacs
>
> ;; Syntax coloring
> (global-font-lock-mode 1)
> ;; Tell Emacs where the idl binary is.
> (setq idlwave-shell-explicit-file-name "/usr/local/rsi/idl/bin/idl")
> ;; Start IDL when needed
> (setq idlwave-shell-automatic-start t)
>
> That should get you up and running. Good luck.
>
>
> - Carsten
>
> P.S.
>
> For the IDLWAVE manual, go to http://idlwave.org. Also, if you
> want to use IDLWAVE's help system, download the help files from
> there and follow the instructions in the README file to install
> them. Basically: Put all the files in a directory and tell Emacs
> where they are with (again in .emacs)
>
> (setq idlwave-help-directory "/full/path/to/helpfiles")
>
> I see that you use OroborOSX and XDarwin. That is fine. You may want
> to consider trying apples X11 at
>
> http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/
>
> It is still a beta version but works well, is fast and
> automatically gives you a window manager which shows all the X11
> application windows on the normal desktop. Check out RSI's tech
> note about running idl with Apple's X11 at
>
> http://www.rsinc.com/services/techtip.asp?ttid=3444
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