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Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33582] Wed, 15 January 2003 16:31
mike7510 is currently offline  mike7510
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Randall Skelton <rhskelto@mulligan.atm.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<Pine.LNX.4.44.0301151739530.22813-100000@mulligan.atm.ox.ac.uk>...
> On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Paul van Delst wrote:
>
>> I would _hope_ that if the product has been fully paid for, it shouldn't
>> matter (the maintenance issue notwithstanding.)
>
> Software 'ownership' is always a slightly obfuscated matter.
> Nevertheless, I believe I stand corrected as in addition to what I wrote
> before, the license agreement clearly states:
>
> "TRANSFER - You may transfer the Software, Documentation and this license
> as a package to another party, but only after all of the following
> conditions have been met: (a) written notification to RSI, (b) agreement
> by the transferee be bound by the terms and conditions of this Agreement,
> and (c) acceptance by RSI. In the event of transfer of the Software,
> Documentation, and this license as a package, you will destroy all copies
> of the Software, whether in printed, machine readable, or other form, not
> delivered to the transferee."
>
> Perhaps there is an ebay market for IDL licenses?


someone is selling a Windows 5.6 version brand new for a starting bid
of .25 US cents but it's useless without the license so might as
well fling them around the room for fun :-)

Yeah I don't think RSI likes students anyway considering they haven't
repsonded back to my email....time to go into "kidde-hacker" mode and
write a Perl script to copy the install files off of the school's
network and crack the nodelock license :-) only kidding so RSI please
don't send me a lawsuit in the mail....well if anyone comes across
anything that might help me out let me know, I appreciate it and
enjoy
-Mike
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33584 is a reply to message #33582] Wed, 15 January 2003 12:53 Go to previous message
mike7510 is currently offline  mike7510
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"Randall Skelton <skelton@atm.ox.ac.uk>" <rhskelto@atm.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<Pine.LNX.4.33.0301150842450.11336-100000@moriarty.atm.ox.ac.uk>...
> Hi Mike. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the first line of the IDL
> license agreement reads:
>
> "This agreement includes the non-exclusive, non-transferable grant to use
> the IDL Software at the locations and facilities identified below in this
> agreement...."
>
> Most real software *nix can be "upgraded" or transfered to other machines
> on site (in this case, after paying an RSI upgrade tax) under such a
> license. You cannot legally transfer a license from one site to another.


perhaps SSHing into the network then would be the best alternative if
I wanted to work at home :-) I could understand them being anal
about the licensing...
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33587 is a reply to message #33584] Wed, 15 January 2003 09:50 Go to previous message
Randall Skelton is currently offline  Randall Skelton
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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Paul van Delst wrote:

> I would _hope_ that if the product has been fully paid for, it shouldn't
> matter (the maintenance issue notwithstanding.)

Software 'ownership' is always a slightly obfuscated matter.
Nevertheless, I believe I stand corrected as in addition to what I wrote
before, the license agreement clearly states:

"TRANSFER - You may transfer the Software, Documentation and this license
as a package to another party, but only after all of the following
conditions have been met: (a) written notification to RSI, (b) agreement
by the transferee be bound by the terms and conditions of this Agreement,
and (c) acceptance by RSI. In the event of transfer of the Software,
Documentation, and this license as a package, you will destroy all copies
of the Software, whether in printed, machine readable, or other form, not
delivered to the transferee."

Perhaps there is an ebay market for IDL licenses?
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33593 is a reply to message #33587] Wed, 15 January 2003 06:59 Go to previous message
Paul Van Delst[1] is currently offline  Paul Van Delst[1]
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Michael de la Fuente wrote:
>
> Paul van Delst <paul.vandelst@noaa.gov> wrote in message news:<3E248768.B04047FA@noaa.gov>...
>> Michael de la Fuente wrote:
>>>
>>> Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<avu7o1$b7a$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>...
>>>> Michael de la Fuente wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hello,
>>>> > I'm a student at RIT in NY and am taking an Imaging Science course
>>>> > here. They use IDL extensively I see and was wondering if there are
>>>> > any users of IDL on SGI Irix platforms here. I would be interested in
>>>> > your feedback on how well IDL runs and executes on IRIX. Also, any
>>>> > other info(pricing, downloadable ftp site, etc etc) would be helpful
>>>> > too. Thank you.
>>>> > -Mike
>>>>
>>>> As others have said, IDL runs very well under IRIX. The only complaint I
>>>> might make is that it doesn't make use of the MP capabilities of IRIX.
>>>>
>>>> Are you looking to run it on a personal machine, or one owned by the
>>>> institute you're attending? If it's owned by the institute you might not
>>>> need to purchase anything if they have network licenses. IDL for UNIX
>>>> covers installation on Solaris, IRIX, Linux and others for network
>>>> licenses.
>>>
>>> This would be on my own personal machine and the software for IRIX
>>> goes for like $1200 while the student version for Windows is only $80,
>>> man that ruined my day!!!
>>
>> If you can afford an SGI box for personal use, then an IDL license should be chook feed.
>> (just kidding...mostly)
>>
>>> I asked the systems admin for the Imaging
>>> Science department and he said he isn't able to help me out with a
>>> license, so I emailed Rsinc.com and hope they can give me a break in
>>> the price, worth a shot anyway...
>>
>> Sure. I'll refrain from several raunchy analogies about RSI's licensing costs/policies
>> that spring to mind :o) Suffice it to say don't hold your breath. Then again, given the
>> economy, maybe they've softened their stance. :o|
>>
>> paulv
>
> ummmm SGI workstations sell for pennies on the dollar last time I
> checked Ebay :-) hence why I could afford one......

Huh. how about that. I never would've guessed.

> but anyway in terms
> of licensing, I'm sure they are as anal as SGI with the licensing of
> the product to different machines,

I have done this many, many times with a particular IDL single-user license. As
workstations got retired, I simply migrated the license over to another machine (I think
three times - from one IBM RS/6K to another to my Linux laptop). To get the new license
keys I simply contact RSI with the new hostid info. But, and it's a significant but, in
addition to a licensed product -- which you could conceivably get cheaply from a generous
professor/sysadmin if they can sort out the purchasing paperwork (not an insignificant
feat at some universities) -- I also was up-to-date on my maintenance payments. I don't
know if this is a necessary thing if all you're doing is transferring an already paid for
license from one machine to another, but my experience with IDL licensing is that if it
can be made difficult, it will be. I sure this isn't a willful effort on RSI's part to
make life difficult, more me not being able (or, truth be told, willing) to follow all the
machinations of said policy.

> but do you know if they allow
> license transfers of older or more recent versions?

I would _hope_ that if the product has been fully paid for, it shouldn't matter (the
maintenance issue notwithstanding.)

Good luck

paulv

--
Paul van Delst
CIMSS @ NOAA/NCEP/EMC
Ph: (301)763-8000 x7274
Fax:(301)763-8545
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33594 is a reply to message #33593] Wed, 15 January 2003 00:55 Go to previous message
skelton is currently offline  skelton
Messages: 2
Registered: September 2002
Junior Member
Hi Mike. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the first line of the IDL
license agreement reads:

"This agreement includes the non-exclusive, non-transferable grant to use
the IDL Software at the locations and facilities identified below in this
agreement...."

Most real software *nix can be "upgraded" or transfered to other machines
on site (in this case, after paying an RSI upgrade tax) under such a
license. You cannot legally transfer a license from one site to another.
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33595 is a reply to message #33594] Tue, 14 January 2003 20:21 Go to previous message
mike7510 is currently offline  mike7510
Messages: 7
Registered: January 2003
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GrahamWilsonCA@yahoo.ca (Graham) wrote in message news:<eda30d78.0301141520.49b9392f@posting.google.com>...
> mike7510@hotmail.com (Michael de la Fuente) wrote:
>
>> I'm a student at RIT in NY and am taking an Imaging Science course
>> here.
>
> You have your own personal IRIX workstation? Well, you must have more
> money than I do...

nah, just a smart shopper on ebay :-)


> In any case, RSI would be a little hypocritical if
> they started giving away the IRIX license for the student price given
> that they have outright refused to let me purchase IDL for linux at
> the student price :(
>
> I hate to dust off and mount my linux soap-box but the thought of
> actually paying money for a bloated M$ windows operating system just
> so I can have the privilage using IDL at home is just silly. I am
> doing a masters course in imaging having spent the past 5 years
> writing visulization tools in the medical imaging industry. I write
> all my assignments for my remote ensing and imaging courses in c++
> and/or python and write data files that I can read using IDL in our
> computer lab if I must. When our instructor realized that the student
> version was only for windows, she revised her policy regarding
> assignments so they could be coded in any language that students have
> access to. To be honest, usng the IDL language for anything more
> vizsualization is like coding in the stone ages anyways! It seems the
> folks who implimented the IDL objects only read a quarter of thier CS
> texts or did I miss something? If you need real visualization toolkit
> use VTK.

all of the assignments are to be done in IDL so I can't just pick and
choose whatever software I want to use.....no big deal I suppose, just
thought it would be nice if I could buy a copy for my own personal use
or if anyone out there wanted to do a licenses transfer for a fee of
some sorts.....good luck with your masters degree!!!
-Mike
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33596 is a reply to message #33595] Tue, 14 January 2003 19:58 Go to previous message
mike7510 is currently offline  mike7510
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Paul van Delst <paul.vandelst@noaa.gov> wrote in message news:<3E248768.B04047FA@noaa.gov>...
> Michael de la Fuente wrote:
>>
>> Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<avu7o1$b7a$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>...
>>> Michael de la Fuente wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I'm a student at RIT in NY and am taking an Imaging Science course
>>>> here. They use IDL extensively I see and was wondering if there are
>>>> any users of IDL on SGI Irix platforms here. I would be interested in
>>>> your feedback on how well IDL runs and executes on IRIX. Also, any
>>>> other info(pricing, downloadable ftp site, etc etc) would be helpful
>>>> too. Thank you.
>>>> -Mike
>>>
>>> As others have said, IDL runs very well under IRIX. The only complaint I
>>> might make is that it doesn't make use of the MP capabilities of IRIX.
>>>
>>> Are you looking to run it on a personal machine, or one owned by the
>>> institute you're attending? If it's owned by the institute you might not
>>> need to purchase anything if they have network licenses. IDL for UNIX
>>> covers installation on Solaris, IRIX, Linux and others for network
>>> licenses.
>>
>> This would be on my own personal machine and the software for IRIX
>> goes for like $1200 while the student version for Windows is only $80,
>> man that ruined my day!!!
>
> If you can afford an SGI box for personal use, then an IDL license should be chook feed.
> (just kidding...mostly)
>
>> I asked the systems admin for the Imaging
>> Science department and he said he isn't able to help me out with a
>> license, so I emailed Rsinc.com and hope they can give me a break in
>> the price, worth a shot anyway...
>
> Sure. I'll refrain from several raunchy analogies about RSI's licensing costs/policies
> that spring to mind :o) Suffice it to say don't hold your breath. Then again, given the
> economy, maybe they've softened their stance. :o|
>
> paulv


ummmm SGI workstations sell for pennies on the dollar last time I
checked Ebay :-) hence why I could afford one......but anyway in terms
of licensing, I'm sure they are as anal as SGI with the licensing of
the product to different machines, but do you know if they allow
license transfers of older or more recent versions? thanks for the
info.
-Mike
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33597 is a reply to message #33596] Tue, 14 January 2003 15:20 Go to previous message
GrahamWilsonCA is currently offline  GrahamWilsonCA
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mike7510@hotmail.com (Michael de la Fuente) wrote:

> I'm a student at RIT in NY and am taking an Imaging Science course
> here.

You have your own personal IRIX workstation? Well, you must have more
money than I do... In any case, RSI would be a little hypocritical if
they started giving away the IRIX license for the student price given
that they have outright refused to let me purchase IDL for linux at
the student price :(

I hate to dust off and mount my linux soap-box but the thought of
actually paying money for a bloated M$ windows operating system just
so I can have the privilage using IDL at home is just silly. I am
doing a masters course in imaging having spent the past 5 years
writing visulization tools in the medical imaging industry. I write
all my assignments for my remote ensing and imaging courses in c++
and/or python and write data files that I can read using IDL in our
computer lab if I must. When our instructor realized that the student
version was only for windows, she revised her policy regarding
assignments so they could be coded in any language that students have
access to. To be honest, usng the IDL language for anything more
vizsualization is like coding in the stone ages anyways! It seems the
folks who implimented the IDL objects only read a quarter of thier CS
texts or did I miss something? If you need real visualization toolkit
use VTK.
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33599 is a reply to message #33597] Tue, 14 January 2003 13:55 Go to previous message
Paul Van Delst[1] is currently offline  Paul Van Delst[1]
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Michael de la Fuente wrote:
>
> Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<avu7o1$b7a$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>...
>> Michael de la Fuente wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm a student at RIT in NY and am taking an Imaging Science course
>>> here. They use IDL extensively I see and was wondering if there are
>>> any users of IDL on SGI Irix platforms here. I would be interested in
>>> your feedback on how well IDL runs and executes on IRIX. Also, any
>>> other info(pricing, downloadable ftp site, etc etc) would be helpful
>>> too. Thank you.
>>> -Mike
>>
>> As others have said, IDL runs very well under IRIX. The only complaint I
>> might make is that it doesn't make use of the MP capabilities of IRIX.
>>
>> Are you looking to run it on a personal machine, or one owned by the
>> institute you're attending? If it's owned by the institute you might not
>> need to purchase anything if they have network licenses. IDL for UNIX
>> covers installation on Solaris, IRIX, Linux and others for network
>> licenses.
>
> This would be on my own personal machine and the software for IRIX
> goes for like $1200 while the student version for Windows is only $80,
> man that ruined my day!!!

If you can afford an SGI box for personal use, then an IDL license should be chook feed.
(just kidding...mostly)

> I asked the systems admin for the Imaging
> Science department and he said he isn't able to help me out with a
> license, so I emailed Rsinc.com and hope they can give me a break in
> the price, worth a shot anyway...

Sure. I'll refrain from several raunchy analogies about RSI's licensing costs/policies
that spring to mind :o) Suffice it to say don't hold your breath. Then again, given the
economy, maybe they've softened their stance. :o|

paulv

--
Paul van Delst
CIMSS @ NOAA/NCEP/EMC
Ph: (301)763-8000 x7274
Fax:(301)763-8545
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33600 is a reply to message #33599] Tue, 14 January 2003 13:28 Go to previous message
mike7510 is currently offline  mike7510
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Registered: January 2003
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Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<avu7o1$b7a$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>...
> Michael de la Fuente wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm a student at RIT in NY and am taking an Imaging Science course
>> here. They use IDL extensively I see and was wondering if there are
>> any users of IDL on SGI Irix platforms here. I would be interested in
>> your feedback on how well IDL runs and executes on IRIX. Also, any
>> other info(pricing, downloadable ftp site, etc etc) would be helpful
>> too. Thank you.
>> -Mike
>
> As others have said, IDL runs very well under IRIX. The only complaint I
> might make is that it doesn't make use of the MP capabilities of IRIX.
>
> Are you looking to run it on a personal machine, or one owned by the
> institute you're attending? If it's owned by the institute you might not
> need to purchase anything if they have network licenses. IDL for UNIX
> covers installation on Solaris, IRIX, Linux and others for network
> licenses.

This would be on my own personal machine and the software for IRIX
goes for like $1200 while the student version for Windows is only $80,
man that ruined my day!!! I asked the systems admin for the Imaging
Science department and he said he isn't able to help me out with a
license, so I emailed Rsinc.com and hope they can give me a break in
the price, worth a shot anyway...anyone looking to dump their IDL
stuff for a price?? or do a license transfer, if they allow that at
all?? Thanks for the feedback.
-Michael
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33610 is a reply to message #33600] Tue, 14 January 2003 07:15 Go to previous message
Liam E. Gumley is currently offline  Liam E. Gumley
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"Nigel Wade" <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:b00kpo$t84$1@south.jnrs.ja.net...
[stuff deleted]
> I'll have a play with the threaded stuff and see how well it works. We do
a
> *lot* of FFT work and multi-threading might really speed that up (it might
> even convince people here to stop using 5.1).

FFT is definitely multi-threaded in IDL 5.5 and 5.6. You should observe
significant speedup on a multi-CPU system.

Cheers,
Liam.
Practical IDL Programming
http://www.gumley.com./
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33611 is a reply to message #33610] Tue, 14 January 2003 07:20 Go to previous message
Paul Van Delst[1] is currently offline  Paul Van Delst[1]
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Nigel Wade wrote:
>
> Kenneth Bowman wrote:
>
>> In article <avuo4s$fab$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>,
>> Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> I've certainly never seen IDL use more than a single processor for
>>> internal operations. Is it supposed to?
>>
>> Newer versions of IDL support multi-threading. See Chapter 15 in the
>> 5.6 manuals "Multithreading in IDL". It's in the "What's New" manual in
>> 5.5, I think. I can't remember in which version it first appeared.
>>
>> Ken Bowman
>>
>
> I don't think I ever got a "What's new" for 5.5; we get one copy of printed
> stuff for the site. The online docs supplied with 5.5 were all for 5.4
> weren't they?

Glancing at my shelf I see a "what's new" book for 5.2, 5.4 ,5.5, and 5.6 - the last one
is still in the shrink wrap. No 5.3, but I do have the several phone book like manuals.

The 5.5 what's new has a multithreading index entry. The 5.4 does not.

I found an old 5" floppy under my 5.4 what's new. huh. how about that.

paulv

--
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CIMSS @ NOAA/NCEP/EMC
Ph: (301)763-8000 x7274
Fax:(301)763-8545
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33618 is a reply to message #33610] Tue, 14 January 2003 01:20 Go to previous message
Nigel Wade is currently offline  Nigel Wade
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Kenneth Bowman wrote:

> In article <avuo4s$fab$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>,
> Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> I've certainly never seen IDL use more than a single processor for
>> internal operations. Is it supposed to?
>
> Newer versions of IDL support multi-threading. See Chapter 15 in the
> 5.6 manuals "Multithreading in IDL". It's in the "What's New" manual in
> 5.5, I think. I can't remember in which version it first appeared.
>
> Ken Bowman
>

I don't think I ever got a "What's new" for 5.5; we get one copy of printed
stuff for the site. The online docs supplied with 5.5 were all for 5.4
weren't they?

I'll have a play with the threaded stuff and see how well it works. We do a
*lot* of FFT work and multi-threading might really speed that up (it might
even convince people here to stop using 5.1).

I've not got my copy of 5.6 yet...

--
Nigel Wade, System Administrator, Space Plasma Physics Group,
University of Leicester, Leicester, LE1 7RH, UK
E-mail : nmw@ion.le.ac.uk
Phone : +44 (0)116 2523548, Fax : +44 (0)116 2523555
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33629 is a reply to message #33618] Mon, 13 January 2003 09:10 Go to previous message
K. Bowman is currently offline  K. Bowman
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In article <avuo4s$fab$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>,
Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote:

> I've certainly never seen IDL use more than a single processor for internal
> operations. Is it supposed to?

Newer versions of IDL support multi-threading. See Chapter 15 in the
5.6 manuals "Multithreading in IDL". It's in the "What's New" manual in
5.5, I think. I can't remember in which version it first appeared.

Ken Bowman


On my dual-processor Mac:

IDL> help, !cpu, /str
** Structure !CPU, 6 tags, length=24, data length=24:
HW_VECTOR LONG 1
VECTOR_ENABLE LONG 1
HW_NCPU LONG 2
TPOOL_NTHREADS LONG 2
TPOOL_MIN_ELTS LONG 100000
TPOOL_MAX_ELTS LONG 0

This translates as:
Vector unit present (currently Mac only)
Vector unit enabled
2 cpus available
use 2 threads when vectors satisfy these conditions:
minimum vector length, 100000
no maximum vector length
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33633 is a reply to message #33629] Mon, 13 January 2003 08:05 Go to previous message
Nigel Wade is currently offline  Nigel Wade
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Kenneth P. Bowman wrote:

> In article <avu7o1$b7a$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>,
> Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> As others have said, IDL runs very well under IRIX. The only complaint I
>> might make is that it doesn't make use of the MP capabilities of IRIX.
>
> Actually, I think it does. Some time ago I did some testing using the
> thread pool on our 4-processor O200's. It did appear to use multiple
> processors, although the speed-up on my codes was not good.
>
> Ken Bowman

I've certainly never seen IDL use more than a single processor for internal
operations. Is it supposed to?


--
Nigel Wade, System Administrator, Space Plasma Physics Group,
University of Leicester, Leicester, LE1 7RH, UK
E-mail : nmw@ion.le.ac.uk
Phone : +44 (0)116 2523548, Fax : +44 (0)116 2523555
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33635 is a reply to message #33633] Mon, 13 January 2003 04:42 Go to previous message
Kenneth P. Bowman is currently offline  Kenneth P. Bowman
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In article <avu7o1$b7a$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>,
Nigel Wade <nmw@ion.le.ac.uk> wrote:

> As others have said, IDL runs very well under IRIX. The only complaint I
> might make is that it doesn't make use of the MP capabilities of IRIX.

Actually, I think it does. Some time ago I did some testing using the
thread pool on our 4-processor O200's. It did appear to use multiple
processors, although the speed-up on my codes was not good.

Ken Bowman
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33637 is a reply to message #33635] Mon, 13 January 2003 03:25 Go to previous message
Nigel Wade is currently offline  Nigel Wade
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Michael de la Fuente wrote:

> Hello,
> I'm a student at RIT in NY and am taking an Imaging Science course
> here. They use IDL extensively I see and was wondering if there are
> any users of IDL on SGI Irix platforms here. I would be interested in
> your feedback on how well IDL runs and executes on IRIX. Also, any
> other info(pricing, downloadable ftp site, etc etc) would be helpful
> too. Thank you.
> -Mike

As others have said, IDL runs very well under IRIX. The only complaint I
might make is that it doesn't make use of the MP capabilities of IRIX.

Are you looking to run it on a personal machine, or one owned by the
institute you're attending? If it's owned by the institute you might not
need to purchase anything if they have network licenses. IDL for UNIX
covers installation on Solaris, IRIX, Linux and others for network
licenses.

--
Nigel Wade, System Administrator, Space Plasma Physics Group,
University of Leicester, Leicester, LE1 7RH, UK
E-mail : nmw@ion.le.ac.uk
Phone : +44 (0)116 2523548, Fax : +44 (0)116 2523555
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33644 is a reply to message #33637] Sun, 12 January 2003 15:09 Go to previous message
mike7510 is currently offline  mike7510
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"Kenneth P. Bowman" <kpb@null.com> wrote in message news:<kpb-79FA65.18553211012003@corp.supernews.com>...
> In article <7f0efdca.0301111615.3a5429ef@posting.google.com>,
> mike7510@hotmail.com (Michael de la Fuente) wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm a student at RIT in NY and am taking an Imaging Science course
>> here. They use IDL extensively I see and was wondering if there are
>> any users of IDL on SGI Irix platforms here. I would be interested in
>> your feedback on how well IDL runs and executes on IRIX. Also, any
>> other info (pricing, downloadable ftp site, etc etc) would be helpful
>> too. Thank you.
>> -Mike
>
> Works fine for us on IRIX.
>
> In my experience, the various unix version of IDL are nearly identical
> and high quality.
>
> rsinc.com
>
> There is a student version, but it is currently Windows only. :-(
>
> Ken Bowman

thanks, I'll see if I can get some sort of discount if I can buy it
through the school or something even though they run IDL on Solaris.
It's worth a shot anyway.
-Mike
Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33647 is a reply to message #33644] Sun, 12 January 2003 06:17 Go to previous message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
Messages: 1424
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Kenneth P. Bowman wrote:
> In article <7f0efdca.0301111615.3a5429ef@posting.google.com>,
> mike7510@hotmail.com (Michael de la Fuente) wrote:
>
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm a student at RIT in NY and am taking an Imaging Science course
>> here. They use IDL extensively I see and was wondering if there are
>> any users of IDL on SGI Irix platforms here. I would be interested in
>> your feedback on how well IDL runs and executes on IRIX. Also, any
>> other info (pricing, downloadable ftp site, etc etc) would be helpful
>> too. Thank you.
>> -Mike
>
>
> Works fine for us on IRIX.
>
> In my experience, the various unix version of IDL are nearly identical
> and high quality.
>
> rsinc.com
>
> There is a student version, but it is currently Windows only. :-(
>
> Ken Bowman


Does someone know if this windows idl version runs with wine?

Reimar

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email: R.Bauer@fz-juelich.de
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Re: IDL for IRIX [message #33650 is a reply to message #33647] Sat, 11 January 2003 16:55 Go to previous message
Kenneth P. Bowman is currently offline  Kenneth P. Bowman
Messages: 585
Registered: May 2000
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In article <7f0efdca.0301111615.3a5429ef@posting.google.com>,
mike7510@hotmail.com (Michael de la Fuente) wrote:

> Hello,
> I'm a student at RIT in NY and am taking an Imaging Science course
> here. They use IDL extensively I see and was wondering if there are
> any users of IDL on SGI Irix platforms here. I would be interested in
> your feedback on how well IDL runs and executes on IRIX. Also, any
> other info (pricing, downloadable ftp site, etc etc) would be helpful
> too. Thank you.
> -Mike

Works fine for us on IRIX.

In my experience, the various unix version of IDL are nearly identical
and high quality.

rsinc.com

There is a student version, but it is currently Windows only. :-(

Ken Bowman
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