| IDL 5.6, MacOSX, IDLWAVE, Xemacs, and suicide [message #33580] |
Wed, 15 January 2003 18:25  |
dbowman
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Registered: January 2003
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I've been spending several days trying to get IDL 5.6 and all of the
ancillary programs up and running on my G4 tower. After much pulling
of hair and gnashing of teeth, I was able to get it going. Of course,
I soon discovered that the "new and improved" (HA!) version does not
include the wonderful (or at least functional) editor that was
standard in the old Mac Classic version (5.5). After reading through
the many postings of the wise and learned seers on this newsgroup,
I've decided that the best option is to install Xemacs and IDLWAVE.
3 days later, I'm ready to switch to matlab.
Can somebody tell me an easy, straightforward way to install a Xemacs
and idlwave? Please, treat me as the complete moron that I feel like.
Include things like web sites where the programs can be downloaded.
I'm sure this would be appreciated by many other stranded Mac IDL
users.
Thanks in advance.
David
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| Re: IDL 5.6, MacOSX, IDLWAVE, Xemacs [message #33676 is a reply to message #33580] |
Sun, 19 January 2003 11:29  |
dbowman
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Paul Woodford <cpwoodford@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:
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> The built-in editor on the pre-5.6 Mac IDL is much, much better than the
> unix editor. I do most of my crunching on cheap Linux/Intel boxes, but
> I develop on my Mac. If I ever upgrade to 5.6, I expect that I will
> last all of 5 minutes with the editor before I feel compelled to start
> re-learning emacs finger gymnastics.
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> Paul
I have to agree with Paul. The pre-5.6 Mac IDL editor was really
quite good. I'll probably follow Paul's example and continue to
develop on 5.5. I've simply no desire to relearn all of the emacs
"finger gymnastics". I know all of the computer science types swear
by emacs (object graphics, etc.), but IMHO the power of IDL was how
easy and accessable it *was* for the rest of us. It's clearly moving
away from that model.
David
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| Re: IDL 5.6, MacOSX, IDLWAVE, Xemacs [message #33678 is a reply to message #33580] |
Sat, 18 January 2003 20:23 |
Paul Woodford
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In article <qzu7kd4td0p.fsf@sand.science.uva.nl>,
Carsten Dominik <dominik@_DROP_THIS_science.uva.nl> wrote:
>>>> >> "DB" == David Bowman <dbowman@fullerton.edu> writes:
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> DB> It's still a pity to lose the old built-in editor. It was so much
> DB> simpler to have everything in one package.
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> Well, there still is IDLDE which does everything in one package, if
> that is your main priority.
The built-in editor on the pre-5.6 Mac IDL is much, much better than the
unix editor. I do most of my crunching on cheap Linux/Intel boxes, but
I develop on my Mac. If I ever upgrade to 5.6, I expect that I will
last all of 5 minutes with the editor before I feel compelled to start
re-learning emacs finger gymnastics.
Paul
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| Re: IDL 5.6, MacOSX, IDLWAVE, Xemacs [message #33681 is a reply to message #33580] |
Sat, 18 January 2003 12:08 |
Carsten Dominik
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>>>> > "JS" == JD Smith <jdsmith@as.arizona.edu> writes:
JS> From my point of view, IDLWAVE does everything "in one package". It is
JS> every bit as complete a development environment for IDL as IDLDE is. It
JS> just happens to be an external project.
JS> But I suppose you know all this;)
Of course you are right. What I meant with "in one package" is: you
just install IDL and that is it. No additional packages (except for
X11) to download and install.
- Carsten
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| Re: IDL 5.6, MacOSX, IDLWAVE, Xemacs [message #33689 is a reply to message #33580] |
Fri, 17 January 2003 13:42 |
JD Smith
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Registered: December 1999
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On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:07:50 -0700, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>>> >> "DB" == David Bowman <dbowman@fullerton.edu> writes:
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> DB> It's still a pity to lose the old built-in editor. It was so much
> DB> simpler to have everything in one package.
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> Well, there still is IDLDE which does everything in one package, if that
> is your main priority.
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> - Carsten
From my point of view, IDLWAVE does everything "in one package". It is
every bit as complete a development environment for IDL as IDLDE is. It
just happens to be an external project.
But I suppose you know all this;)
JD
Teaser - For those who check the IDLWAVE website everyday for new
releases, a *big* new release with a new doc system, debugger and more
will be available sometime in the not too distant future.
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