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IDL Virtual Machine information [message #35662] Thu, 26 June 2003 07:37 Go to next message
Liam E. Gumley is currently offline  Liam E. Gumley
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A particularly interesting feature of IDL 6.0 is the IDL Virtual Machine,
which will allow developers to distribute compiled cross-platform
applications that do not require IDL to run.

For more information:

http://www.rsinc.com/idl/idlvm_faq.asp

Cheers,
Liam.
Practical IDL Programming
http://www.gumley.com/
Re: IDL Virtual Machine information [message #35676 is a reply to message #35662] Wed, 02 July 2003 03:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nigel Wade is currently offline  Nigel Wade
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Andy Loughe ( remove OMITs ) wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Some programmers here use IDL to create dynamic plots on the web.
> The process is a bit slow as they must connect to a license manager
> in order to run the IDL application.
>
> Will IDL VM help in this regard? Namely, speed of plotting over the web?
>
>

That actually raises another question. According to the VM FAQ the VM always
posts a banner message which can't be removed or altered. So, what happens
if there is no display - does the VM start ok without the banner, or does
it go away in a sulk?

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Re: IDL Virtual Machine information [message #35703 is a reply to message #35662] Tue, 01 July 2003 05:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
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Andy,
I doubt that your problems are due to the license manager connection itself,
unless you do not have enough licenses and actually have to wait for a
license. The problem that I encountered using ION is that the web servers
are often old and usually by far not as fast as new desktop machines. Thus
it takes longer to generate plots, especially if intense calculations are
involved. After creation, these plots need to be transmitted over the
internet, which can take quite a bit of time, if the images are hi-res and
use plenty of colors (and you are on a dial-up). This also causes a slow
down. I do not see, how the VM can help you.

Greetings,
Haje

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"Andy Loughe ( remove OMITs )" <Andrew.LougheOMIT@noaaOMIT.govOMIT> wrote in
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> Hello,
>
> Some programmers here use IDL to create dynamic plots on the web.
> The process is a bit slow as they must connect to a license manager
> in order to run the IDL application.
>
> Will IDL VM help in this regard? Namely, speed of plotting over the web?
>
>
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Re: IDL Virtual Machine information [message #35704 is a reply to message #35662] Tue, 01 July 2003 04:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
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I tried using an IDL external DLM, so you should be fine!

Haje



<tbb0301@mail.lrz-muenchen.de> wrote in message
news:Pine.SOL.4.55.0307011038100.1510@sun2.lrz-muenchen.de.. .
> Hi,
>
> just to be sure: did you use a RSI supplied DLM or an "external" one ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Stephan
>
> On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Haje Korth wrote:
>
>> Ok, I just tried the DLM issue myself using the beta version. Result:
DLMs
>> DO work in VM mode!
>>
>> Haje
>>
>> --
>>
>> <tbb0301@mail.lrz-muenchen.de> wrote in message
>> news:Pine.SOL.4.55.0306301004370.435@sun2.lrz-muenchen.de...
>>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Gert Van de Wouwer wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>> "Liam Gumley" <Liam.Gumley@ssec.wisc.edu> wrote in message
>>>> news:bdf0ei$oce$1@news.doit.wisc.edu...
>>>> > A particularly interesting feature of IDL 6.0 is the IDL Virtual
>> Machine,
>>>>
>>>
>>> My basic understanding after talking to the local distributor was that
>>> DLM are not allowed for VM.
>>>
>>> Best regrads
>>>
>>> Stephan
>>>> But a problem I see is the use of DLM's that I often use. I need to
>> rebuild
>>>> them every time there is a IDL upgrade (and they are not backwards
>>>> compatible). Anyone any thoughts how this would be with the VM?
>>>
>>
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Re: IDL Virtual Machine information [message #35710 is a reply to message #35662] Mon, 30 June 2003 12:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
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Thanks for the example! Haje


"Vinay L. Kashyap" <kashyap@head-cfa.harvard.edu> wrote in message
news:3f0077bd$1@cfanews.cfa.harvard.edu...
> In article <bdp94e$jfg$1@houston.jhuapl.edu>,
> Haje Korth <haje.korth@jhuapl.edu> wrote:
>> which is not available in VM mode. This seems to be used by many people,
>> even though I haven't discovered its usefulness. (Maybe someone could
>> describe a scenario, where I really need this and cannot find a quick
>> workaround. Maybe I have been missing out on something great here.)
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Haje
>
> Here is an example:
> http://hea-www.harvard.edu/PINTofALE/pro/fitting/adjustie.pr o
> (which is part of the PINTofALE suite, see
> http://hea-www.harvard.edu/PINTofALE/doc/FITLINES.howto )
>
> We use EXECUTE() to define constraints among fit parameters. Given
> the large number of possible constraints, there is no other way to
> set up a flexible constraint at run time. For instance, one might
> come across a constraint such as "flux in line 2 is between 2 and 3
> times the flux in line 1." Or, "line 2 is at a fixed distance from
> line 1, with some error." Or, "if line 1 has flux greater than some
> threshold then line 2 is located at this position, otherwise at this
> other, slightly different, position." Etc.
>
> Vinay
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Re: IDL Virtual Machine information [message #35712 is a reply to message #35662] Mon, 30 June 2003 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Vinay L. Kashyap writes:

> (which is part of the PINTofALE suite, see

PINTofALE!? You guys must be physicists. :-)

Cheers,

David
Re: IDL Virtual Machine [message #40959 is a reply to message #35662] Tue, 21 September 2004 02:17 Go to previous message
mannstein is currently offline  mannstein
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Registered: August 2004
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This morning I found a workaround. Not very nice, but it works:

In the license/lmgrd.opt file I excluded the users, which run the Virtual Machine:
GROUP PROCESSES abcd efgh
EXCLUDE idl GROUP PROCESSES


Nevertheless the behaviour (feature) of the license manager is quite nasty:

As long as it can get a license from the pool, it takes it. If not, it looks for
other possibilities. On my notebook IDL runs under a 'personal use' license, but if the
notebook is connected to our network, it occupies a license from the pool.

Any other ideas?

Hermann



mannstein wrote:
> Hello
>
> is there any idea around, how to avoid, that the Virtual Machine
> takes a license out from our license server without disconnecting the
> machine from the net?
>
> I tried it without success by setting the LM_LICENSE_FILE
> to a dummy, but obviously the command idl -vm=... found a way to get
> access to the license pool.
>
> Hermann
>


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