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Re: Who's up for breaking IDL? [message #35819] Sun, 03 August 2003 14:27 Go to next message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
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Tim Robishaw wrote:

> David Fanning <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message
> news:<MPG.19962a27116012e29896c2@news.frii.com>...
>> Tim Robishaw writes:
>>
>>> What this suggests to me
>>> is that you cannot have a file that stores a routine and name it with
>>> capital letters. That is
>>> dumb. Someone please tell me that I'm right???
>>
>> Uh, well, I think this has been well known since
>> about 1956. :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> David
>
> Woah! 1956! Man, I thought I had been around a while. Never came
> across this one (well, that's also cuz I never name my files with
> capitals; but my advisor was about to attack his monitor when I
> decided to seek expert counseling.) Man, I looked everywhere for
> help: ?resolve_routine, Google newsgroups, some Fanning guy's book.
> Well, I won't get fooled again. But am I right? Isn't this dumb? I
> mean, what a bug!
>
> -Tim.

Never use capitalize characters in file names. I am sure the reasons are
described in our book and in several other books too. Because I tell this
every lesson to the people.

This is an old well known problem. Some closed software Operation Systems
can't distinguish between upper amd lower cases in file names.

Whatever are the the reasons are
I prefer this definition as it is too.

Because I am able to imagine what happens if mixed chars are possible.
PLot is then different from PLOT. I think all of us won't like this or ?

Reimar


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Re: Who's up for breaking IDL? [message #35820 is a reply to message #35819] Sun, 03 August 2003 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Tim Robishaw writes:

> But am I right? Isn't this dumb? I
> mean, what a bug!

I guess you could argue whether it is dumb or not,
although in 1956 (or whenever the choice was made)
the idea of mixed characters in file names was
certainly wacko. In fact, it was probably those
commie pinko liberals at Apple who thought it up.

But there is no way in the world it is a "bug"! :-)

Cheers,

David

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Re: Who's up for breaking IDL? [message #35821 is a reply to message #35820] Sun, 03 August 2003 06:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
timrobishaw is currently offline  timrobishaw
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David Fanning <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.19962a27116012e29896c2@news.frii.com>...
> Tim Robishaw writes:
>
>> What this suggests to me
>> is that you cannot have a file that stores a routine and name it with
>> capital letters. That is
>> dumb. Someone please tell me that I'm right???
>
> Uh, well, I think this has been well known since
> about 1956. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> David

Woah! 1956! Man, I thought I had been around a while. Never came
across this one (well, that's also cuz I never name my files with
capitals; but my advisor was about to attack his monitor when I
decided to seek expert counseling.) Man, I looked everywhere for
help: ?resolve_routine, Google newsgroups, some Fanning guy's book.
Well, I won't get fooled again. But am I right? Isn't this dumb? I
mean, what a bug!

-Tim.
Re: Who's up for breaking IDL? [message #35822 is a reply to message #35821] Sun, 03 August 2003 05:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the_cacc is currently offline  the_cacc
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Simple solution; NEVER USE CAPITALS.

Ta da!
Re: Who's up for breaking IDL? [message #35823 is a reply to message #35822] Sat, 02 August 2003 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Tim Robishaw writes:

> What this suggests to me
> is that you cannot have a file that stores a routine and name it with
> capital letters. That is
> dumb. Someone please tell me that I'm right???

Uh, well, I think this has been well known since
about 1956. :-)

Cheers,

David
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Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Phone: 970-221-0438, E-mail: david@dfanning.com
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Toll-Free IDL Book Orders: 1-888-461-0155
Re: Who's up for breaking IDL? [message #36018 is a reply to message #35820] Mon, 04 August 2003 05:44 Go to previous message
R.G. Stockwell is currently offline  R.G. Stockwell
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"David Fanning" <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1996c178820129639896c3@news.frii.com...
> Tim Robishaw writes:
>
>> But am I right? Isn't this dumb? I
>> mean, what a bug!
>
> I guess you could argue whether it is dumb or not,
> although in 1956 (or whenever the choice was made)
> the idea of mixed characters in file names was
> certainly wacko. In fact, it was probably those
> commie pinko liberals at Apple who thought it up.
>
> But there is no way in the world it is a "bug"! :-)


I'm probably taking my life in my hands, but I'm gonna say its a bug.
If the operating system allows case sensitive filenames, then IDL should
be able to work with them. I view the "never use captials" in the same
way I would view " never use the letter m in a filename".
(assuming the OPs description is correct. This "bug" does not exist on my
win2000 idl 6.0, i haven't bothered to check it out on linux.)

Having said that, i do agree that is insane to have case sensitive
filenames.
I do use legacy c code on the *nix platforms that take advantage of
the liberal use of capitals, drives me freakin crazy.

Cheers,
bob
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