| idlde: Linux vs. Windows [message #36327] |
Tue, 09 September 2003 16:04  |
odell
Messages: 6
Registered: September 2003
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I have just switched jobs, and in the process have been forced to
migrate from Windows to Linux. I have a lot of programming in the
windows IDLDE and really love it. Color coding, lots of preferences
available (like getting the silly project manager off the desktop),
etc. I see (in previous threads) that there are some weird technical
reasons why idlde in Linux totally bites.
So tell me, what is an idl programmer in linux to do? What do you
guys do (I'm thinking of Craig Marquardt, Liam Gumley, David Fanning,
etc)? All use
emacs plus the simple idl command line interface? Or something else?
I realize I am new to programming IDL under linux, so I am figuring
people out there have come up with a nice system (equal in
functionality to the windows idlde i hope!) for linux idl
programming/debugging/running. Just curious what it is.
BTW, i am now running Linux RedHat 9 with IDL 6.0.
Cheers,
Chris O'Dell
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| Re: idlde: Linux vs. Windows [message #36373 is a reply to message #36327] |
Mon, 15 September 2003 11:57  |
JD Smith
Messages: 850
Registered: December 1999
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 08:45:44 -0700, Chris ODell wrote:
> So, after failing to get IDLWAVE going, I switched back to windows 2000.
> (i know i know). It is working so far, but I'm intrigued by the idea of
> nedit plus a command line...I may try that if i get forced back to
> linux.
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> Personally, i enjoy the feature of seeing all the in-memory variables in
> their own little window in the IDLDE. the above would lose that nice
> aspect.
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> Geez, though, you'd think RSI would get on the ball a little and write a
> decent de. I know there have been many other threads on this, but just
> thought I'd let you all know that I wrote them and told them my
> feelings, and the corresponder guy said he would "pass my comments along
> to the relevant people". I remain skeptical :)
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>
Not sure you gave IDLWAVE a fair shot. If you describe the problems you
were having in detail, we could offer a solution. Then again, maybe you
were looking for a reason to switch back... ;).
Regarding variable examination, IDLWAVE has a host of much more powerful
examine commands than the DE (though, admittedly, none as obvious as the
variables watch window). You can shift-middle-click on anything
(variable, expression, function evaluation, or even random regions you
drag out) to print it, and C-S-middle click it to popup a configurable
list of examine commands (e.g. structure help, widget info, etc.). You're
not limited to variables in the present scope, but can examine function
returns, intermediate calculation products, etc. You can even examine
variables futher up the calling stack! A few examples of types of custom
examine commands you might see: print widget uvalues, invoke the `Print'
method of objects, print mean/median/stddev statistics of arrays &
vectors... really any inspection commands you might commonly find yourself
typing at the command line.
JD
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| Re: idlde: Linux vs. Windows [message #36374 is a reply to message #36327] |
Mon, 15 September 2003 08:45 |
odell
Messages: 6
Registered: September 2003
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So, after failing to get IDLWAVE going, I switched back to windows
2000.
(i know i know). It is working so far, but I'm intrigued by the idea
of nedit plus a command line...I may try that if i get forced back to
linux.
Personally, i enjoy the feature of seeing all the in-memory variables
in their own little window in the IDLDE. the above would lose that
nice aspect.
Geez, though, you'd think RSI would get on the ball a little and write
a decent de. I know there have been many other threads on this, but
just thought I'd let you all know that I wrote them and told them my
feelings, and the corresponder guy said he would "pass my comments
along to the relevant people". I remain skeptical :)
Chris O'Dell
UW-Madison AOS Department
mike.walker@iname.com (Michael Walker) wrote in message news:<e911e675.0309111217.19d3bee6@posting.google.com>...
>> For me on UNIX, it's nedit in one window, and the IDL command line in
>> another window:
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>> http://www.nedit.org/features.shtml/
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>> Cheers,
>> Liam.
>> Practical IDL Programming
>> http://www.gumley.com/
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> Exactly what I do.. nedit provides the syntax highlighting I like
> without extra fluff from emacs that I never use. But then, I never
> got used to emacs. Tried it a few times, never got hooked like so
> many others :)
>
> -Mike Walker
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| Re: idlde: Linux vs. Windows [message #36415 is a reply to message #36327] |
Wed, 10 September 2003 07:15 |
Liam Gumley
Messages: 473
Registered: November 1994
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"Chris ODell" <odell@aos.wisc.edu> wrote in message
news:2fafbdc3.0309091504.88fa86e@posting.google.com...
> I have just switched jobs, and in the process have been forced to
> migrate from Windows to Linux. I have a lot of programming in the
> windows IDLDE and really love it. Color coding, lots of preferences
> available (like getting the silly project manager off the desktop),
> etc. I see (in previous threads) that there are some weird technical
> reasons why idlde in Linux totally bites.
>
> So tell me, what is an idl programmer in linux to do? What do you
> guys do (I'm thinking of Craig Marquardt, Liam Gumley, David Fanning,
> etc)? All use
> emacs plus the simple idl command line interface? Or something else?
>
> I realize I am new to programming IDL under linux, so I am figuring
> people out there have come up with a nice system (equal in
> functionality to the windows idlde i hope!) for linux idl
> programming/debugging/running. Just curious what it is.
For me on UNIX, it's nedit in one window, and the IDL command line in
another window:
http://www.nedit.org/features.shtml/
Cheers,
Liam.
Practical IDL Programming
http://www.gumley.com/
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| Re: idlde: Linux vs. Windows [message #36470 is a reply to message #36327] |
Thu, 25 September 2003 03:26 |
IzzieDee2000
Messages: 3
Registered: September 2003
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Junior Member |
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odell@aos.wisc.edu (Chris ODell) wrote in message news:<2fafbdc3.0309091504.88fa86e@posting.google.com>...
> I have just switched jobs, and in the process have been forced to
> migrate from Windows to Linux. I have a lot of programming in the
> windows IDLDE and really love it.
> I realize I am new to programming IDL under linux, so I am figuring
> people out there have come up with a nice system (equal in
> functionality to the windows idlde i hope!) for linux idl
> programming/debugging/running. Just curious what it is.
>
> BTW, i am now running Linux RedHat 9 with IDL 6.0.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris O'Dell
Hi Chris,
This is a little late, but I have IDL5.6 idlde running on Linux (SuSE).
I do not like it because the editor window is too small and i prefer emacs
(IDLWAVE came automatically with my SuSe package (8.2). I agree that
the nice things about idlde are the information windows. I have not
used the Windows version yet and do not know if it is the same.
print,!version gives:
IDL Version 5.6 (linux x86 m32). (c) 2002, Research Systems, Inc.
Rose
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