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Re: Truetype fonts [message #37082] Mon, 24 November 2003 12:48
Pavel Romashkin is currently offline  Pavel Romashkin
Messages: 166
Registered: April 1999
Senior Member
Haje Korth wrote:
>
> .... loud screaming
> MAC users that are panicing to be cut off the support list.

That was more like the birds chirping away in a tree. A tree some 50
miles away from your house. Judging by the results, at least.

Pavel
Re: Truetype fonts [message #37086 is a reply to message #37082] Mon, 24 November 2003 11:00 Go to previous message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
Messages: 651
Registered: May 1997
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Oh, well, maybe the RSI folks even read this news thread and consider
implementation of TRUETYPE FONTS IN DIRECT GRAPHICS by request of (at least)
two users, because it is a hell lot harder to gather the group of Windows
users desiring pretty direct graphics output, than finding loud screaming
MAC users that are panicing to be cut off the support list.

Cheers,
Haje

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"David Fanning" <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a2bf1aaabb641a989756@news.frii.com...
> Haje Korth writes:
>
>> I realized by the number of replies I got that TT fonts are restricted
to
>> object graphics.
>
> Well, not exactly.
>
>> The problem is that object graphics is terribly unpractical
>> if you want to hack something the fast way. I got confused that using TT
>> fonts in direct graphics actually does change the result on screen. They
are
>> not simply ignored, they were actively made to look terrible! :-)
>
> I completely understand how you can feel this
> way, but I'm not sure RSI thinks enough about
> us direct graphics users for this offense to *ever*
> rise to malicious intent. More likely they think
> *everyone* is so enamoured with iTools that they
> have completely abandoned direct graphics,
> so why bother? :-)
>
>> I still have not found the right way to petition to RSI. I am just a
small
>> fish (not a shark like you), and I never feel like someone is *really*
>> listeing to me!
>
> Oh, I think they listen. Some of them. They
> certainly listened to the Mac users when they
> started to howl. They just haven't heard the
> cacophony yet from all of us who use (and still
> love) direct graphics. I hope they hear it soon.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
> --
> David W. Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Phone: 970-221-0438, E-mail: david@dfanning.com
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
> Toll-Free IDL Book Orders: 1-888-461-0155
Re: Truetype fonts [message #37089 is a reply to message #37086] Mon, 24 November 2003 09:45 Go to previous message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
Senior Member
Haje Korth writes:

> I realized by the number of replies I got that TT fonts are restricted to
> object graphics.

Well, not exactly.

> The problem is that object graphics is terribly unpractical
> if you want to hack something the fast way. I got confused that using TT
> fonts in direct graphics actually does change the result on screen. They are
> not simply ignored, they were actively made to look terrible! :-)

I completely understand how you can feel this
way, but I'm not sure RSI thinks enough about
us direct graphics users for this offense to *ever*
rise to malicious intent. More likely they think
*everyone* is so enamoured with iTools that they
have completely abandoned direct graphics,
so why bother? :-)

> I still have not found the right way to petition to RSI. I am just a small
> fish (not a shark like you), and I never feel like someone is *really*
> listeing to me!

Oh, I think they listen. Some of them. They
certainly listened to the Mac users when they
started to howl. They just haven't heard the
cacophony yet from all of us who use (and still
love) direct graphics. I hope they hear it soon.

Cheers,

David
--
David W. Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Phone: 970-221-0438, E-mail: david@dfanning.com
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Toll-Free IDL Book Orders: 1-888-461-0155
Re: Truetype fonts [message #37095 is a reply to message #37089] Mon, 24 November 2003 08:31 Go to previous message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
Messages: 651
Registered: May 1997
Senior Member
David,
I realized by the number of replies I got that TT fonts are restricted to
object graphics. The problem is that object graphics is terribly unpractical
if you want to hack something the fast way. I got confused that using TT
fonts in direct graphics actually does change the result on screen. They are
not simply ignored, they were actively made to look terrible! :-)
I still have not found the right way to petition to RSI. I am just a small
fish (not a shark like you), and I never feel like someone is *really*
listeing to me!

Haje


"David Fanning" <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a283e06d90d51d2989753@news.frii.com...
> Haje Korth writes:
>
>> Does any one know how to setup a Truetype font that does not look like
crap
>> on the screen? I tried
>>
>> !p.font=1
>> device,set_font='Helvetica',/tt_font
>> window,0,xsize=300,ysize=300
>> xyouts,0.5,0.5,'Hello World',/normal,charsize=5
>>
>> but the results are so lousy that even Hershey looks better.
>
> I think you need to join me in petitioning RSI to
> include those neat new fonts that they put into
> iTools in direct graphics. They are *very* slick,
> look terrific on the display, and are *badly* needed
> in direct graphics, as I was just telling them
> this morning....
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
> --
> David W. Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Phone: 970-221-0438, E-mail: david@dfanning.com
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
> Toll-Free IDL Book Orders: 1-888-461-0155
Re: Truetype fonts [message #37108 is a reply to message #37095] Fri, 21 November 2003 14:22 Go to previous message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
Senior Member
Haje Korth writes:

> Does any one know how to setup a Truetype font that does not look like crap
> on the screen? I tried
>
> !p.font=1
> device,set_font='Helvetica',/tt_font
> window,0,xsize=300,ysize=300
> xyouts,0.5,0.5,'Hello World',/normal,charsize=5
>
> but the results are so lousy that even Hershey looks better.

I think you need to join me in petitioning RSI to
include those neat new fonts that they put into
iTools in direct graphics. They are *very* slick,
look terrific on the display, and are *badly* needed
in direct graphics, as I was just telling them
this morning....

Cheers,

David
--
David W. Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Phone: 970-221-0438, E-mail: david@dfanning.com
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Toll-Free IDL Book Orders: 1-888-461-0155
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