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Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37670] Tue, 20 January 2004 05:16 Go to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
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Remember that everyone here in the NG is jsut a volunteer, while your
someone@mathworks.com gets paid 8 hours a day fro helping you. My schedule
is getting more and more busy and I find hardly time to read the NG. Also,
should you not get an answer (happened to me too), it may well be that your
question is so exotic that noone has dealt with your particular issue
before.

Haje


"trouble" <the_cacc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5f9f0a23.0401192021.456eac5e@posting.google.com...
> David Fanning <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message
news:<MPG.1a71a601ce477b379897a7@news.frii.com>...
>> Folks,
>>
>> What has happened to the IDL newsgroup!? Is it relevant anymore?
>> Has everyone moved to RSI's forum page?
>>
>
> I think IDL people need to read and respond to messages posted here.
> Compare with MATLAB, for example. When I've posted a genuine question
> in that ng, I've always had a response from someone@mathworks.com
> within a few hours plus the regular participants!!
>
> I emailed mathworks as well one time, there was no "What's your
> reference number, product code, etc." bull, they just answered my
> question! I've written to RSI a couple of times with specific
> questions (of a mathermatical nature) and the salesperson replying
> can't answer so offers to forward my message onto the 'engineers'...
> who I presume *do* exist somwhere, although they certainly keep quiet.
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37675 is a reply to message #37670] Mon, 19 January 2004 20:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the_cacc is currently offline  the_cacc
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David Fanning <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a71a601ce477b379897a7@news.frii.com>...
> Folks,
>
> What has happened to the IDL newsgroup!? Is it relevant anymore?
> Has everyone moved to RSI's forum page?
>

I think IDL people need to read and respond to messages posted here.
Compare with MATLAB, for example. When I've posted a genuine question
in that ng, I've always had a response from someone@mathworks.com
within a few hours plus the regular participants!!

I emailed mathworks as well one time, there was no "What's your
reference number, product code, etc." bull, they just answered my
question! I've written to RSI a couple of times with specific
questions (of a mathermatical nature) and the salesperson replying
can't answer so offers to forward my message onto the 'engineers'...
who I presume *do* exist somwhere, although they certainly keep quiet.
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37677 is a reply to message #37675] Mon, 19 January 2004 08:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mmiller3 is currently offline  mmiller3
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>>>> > "Rick" == Rick Towler <rtowler@u.washington.edu> writes:

> I can't even find a reference to comp.lang.idl-pvwave on
> their site (although one probably exists somewhere).

To be fair, typing "forum" into RSI own search link results in
"No results where found." (their spelling) Now I don't really
know what that means, but it does seem to imply that RSI doesn't
even link their search engine to their own forum. So it doesn't
surprise me that they don't reference the newsgroup. Plus it
seems someone didn't proofread the site too well.

Mike
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37678 is a reply to message #37677] Mon, 19 January 2004 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
GrahamWilsonCA is currently offline  GrahamWilsonCA
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David Fanning <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a71a601ce477b379897a7@news.frii.com>...
> Folks,
>
> What has happened to the IDL newsgroup!? Is it relevant anymore?
> Has everyone moved to RSI's forum page?
>
> I wrote three (at least) inflammatory articles yesterday,
> trying to get a rise out of someone and .... nothing. :-(

Sorry David, it seems you forgot to update your newsreader settings.
The rest of us left the colour table woes behind us and moved to
comp.lang.matlab. Come on and join the party. Please note, however,
there is a 2 drink minimum before posting.

GW
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37681 is a reply to message #37678] Fri, 16 January 2004 15:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
tons180 is currently offline  tons180
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Sorry David,
I was off pissing into the wind wondering what kinda of a
mo-ran would suck all the science money out of NASA to have
a male length contest with the Chinese. (read, "Won't be using
IDL anymore since I lost my job to GW's vision.")

spenton

In <MPG.1a71a601ce477b379897a7@news.frii.com> David Fanning wrote:
> Folks,
>
> What has happened to the IDL newsgroup!? Is it relevant anymore?
> Has everyone moved to RSI's forum page?
>
> I wrote three (at least) inflammatory articles yesterday,
> trying to get a rise out of someone and .... nothing. :-(
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> P.S. If you are looking for me, I'll be hanging out in
> the future at alt.sci.fetish.moonmission.
>
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37684 is a reply to message #37681] Fri, 16 January 2004 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rick Towler is currently offline  Rick Towler
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"Craig Markwardt" wrote in message ...
> David Fanning writes:
>
>> Has everyone moved to RSI's forum page?
>
> Umm, can anyone actually *use* the RSI forum page?
> It seems like mostly a one-way information conduit:
> easy to post a new thread, impossible to read them
> unless you know ahead of time what to look for.

I voice my opinion on this with RSI every chance I get. I feel that instead
of trying to start a new forum on their site they should actively encourage
participation in this newsgroup. Foster and build the community, don't
fracture it. I can't even find a reference to comp.lang.idl-pvwave on their
site (although one probably exists somewhere). I would think that a vibrant
user group would move product.

And those poor souls who post. They must think the IDL community stinks.
Post after post has 0 replies.

Maybe this is done to boost support and consultation revenue? Nah!

-Rick
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37688 is a reply to message #37684] Fri, 16 January 2004 11:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
eoraptor is currently offline  eoraptor
Messages: 5
Registered: January 2004
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David Fanning <david@dfanning.com> wrote in message news:<MPG.1a71a601ce477b379897a7@news.frii.com>...
> Folks,
>
> What has happened to the IDL newsgroup!? Is it relevant anymore?
> Has everyone moved to RSI's forum page?
>


I'm guessing that comment was made tounge in cheek.
If you think it's slow in here, then the RSI forum is a ghost town.
It's probably just a seasonal slow down cycle.


In a thread from January 9, 2004 titled "IDL in 2004":
>>> Anyone care to predict the direction IDL will go this year?
>>> For what it's worth, I've made the move to matlab since I didn't feel
>>> IDL could compete on numerical tasks. Got to say, the idl newsgroup is
>>> more fun than matlab. Well... fun is maybe too strong a word ;)

I was hoping some of the IDL insiders might make some 2004 predictions for fun.


Richard Hoffpauir
Water Resources Engineering Consultant
Bryan-College Station, Texas
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37689 is a reply to message #37688] Fri, 16 January 2004 10:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Craig Markwardt is currently offline  Craig Markwardt
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David Fanning <david@dfanning.com> writes:

> What has happened to the IDL newsgroup!? Is it relevant anymore?
> Has everyone moved to RSI's forum page?

Umm, can anyone actually *use* the RSI forum page? It seems like
mostly a one-way information conduit: easy to post a new thread,
impossible to read them unless you know ahead of time what to look
for.

Craig
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37690 is a reply to message #37689] Fri, 16 January 2004 10:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
K. Bowman is currently offline  K. Bowman
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In article <MPG.1a71a601ce477b379897a7@news.frii.com>,
David Fanning <david@dfanning.com> wrote:

> Folks,
>
> What has happened to the IDL newsgroup!? Is it relevant anymore?
> Has everyone moved to RSI's forum page?
>
> I wrote three (at least) inflammatory articles yesterday,
> trying to get a rise out of someone and .... nothing. :-(

Like many stimulants, we have developed a tolerance, so ever larger
doses are required to produce an effect.

Ken Bowman
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37691 is a reply to message #37690] Fri, 16 January 2004 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Michael Wallace is currently offline  Michael Wallace
Messages: 409
Registered: December 2003
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David Fanning wrote:
> Folks,
>
> What has happened to the IDL newsgroup!? Is it relevant anymore?
> Has everyone moved to RSI's forum page?

I have not. In fact, I didn't know it existed. Why doesn't anyone ever
tell me these things?! Oh, wait.... I think it's because I've only been
working with IDL for 3 months or so now.... Anyways, I guess I'm just
old-fashioned since I prefer good ol' news over the web forum stuff.
Besides, RSI's little forum there wasn't all that aesthetically pleasing
and I didn't care for the navigation. Oh, well.

> I wrote three (at least) inflammatory articles yesterday,
> trying to get a rise out of someone and .... nothing. :-(

You did get a rise out of me on one of them, but being the "New Guy"
around here and not quite knowing everyone's personality (and the level
of off-topic tolerance), I chose to be nice and keep quiet. ;-)

> P.S. If you are looking for me, I'll be hanging out in
> the future at alt.sci.fetish.moonmission.

We're taking this baby to the moooooooooooon!!!
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37693 is a reply to message #37691] Fri, 16 January 2004 08:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
Messages: 1424
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David Fanning wrote:
> Folks,
>
> What has happened to the IDL newsgroup!? Is it relevant anymore?
> Has everyone moved to RSI's forum page?
>




> I wrote three (at least) inflammatory articles yesterday,
> trying to get a rise out of someone and .... nothing. :-(

David

I missed the chance to sent more articles as you did yesterday.


regards

Reimar
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37761 is a reply to message #37670] Tue, 20 January 2004 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the_cacc is currently offline  the_cacc
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"Haje Korth" <haje.korth@jhuapl.edu> wrote in message news:<buj9mh$orq$1@houston.jhuapl.edu>...
> Remember that everyone here in the NG is jsut a volunteer, while your
> someone@mathworks.com gets paid 8 hours a day fro helping you. My schedule
> is getting more and more busy and I find hardly time to read the NG. Also,
> should you not get an answer (happened to me too), it may well be that your
> question is so exotic that noone has dealt with your particular issue
> before.
>
> Haje
>

Sorry, I was unclear. I value this, and other, NGs since it is in fact
the main source of info after the manual. For IDL to ignore it/compete
with it is idiotic!

I meant the the IDL employees could do worse than to read and respond
to messages here before spending another year developing, well who
knows (cares) what latest interface/GUI gunk they've spent their money
on this time.
Re: What's Happened to IDL Newsgroup? [message #37793 is a reply to message #37677] Mon, 26 January 2004 10:58 Go to previous message
condor is currently offline  condor
Messages: 35
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mmiller3@iupui.edu (Michael A. Miller) wrote in message news:<87vfn8kjw8.fsf@lumen.indyrad.iupui.edu>...
>>>> >> "Rick" == Rick Towler <rtowler@u.washington.edu> writes:
>
>> I can't even find a reference to comp.lang.idl-pvwave on
>> their site (although one probably exists somewhere).
>
> To be fair, typing "forum" into RSI own search link results in
> "No results where found." (their spelling)


I think RSI (is the only institution in the world that) ought to be
allowed to use the word "where" when making reference to any aspect of
the process of searching items in a dataset.

I don't know about "regulars" -- I drop in here when I have a few
minutes to kill to see if there's something simple where I can help
out someone and there's nothing interesting on my other regular
newsgroups (alt.sex.emacs and such). It has to be simple, or otherwise
I'm out of my depth immediately. But most of the time the questions
here are about some arcana I didn't even know existed (or have been
shunning with disgust). I tend to come away with a good new idea here
and there but my reading-to-posting ratio is rather large (and it's
not because I read here terribly often).
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