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MacOSX: Xgrid+IDL Anyone? [message #37592] Thu, 08 January 2004 13:08 Go to next message
Steven V. Penton is currently offline  Steven V. Penton
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Registered: February 2003
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Ok, so Xgrid on MacOSX is cool, but it doesn't seem to
work with IDL. I've tried all the thread tweaks but I
couldn't get a serious Poly_2d call to work. I can get
Xgrid to pass around the IDL process to the fastest machine,
but no luck otherwise. Has anyone else tried ?? Am I
being naive to think that the threaded pieces of
IDL should work?

Steve P.
Re: MacOSX: Xgrid+IDL Anyone? [message #37637 is a reply to message #37592] Tue, 13 January 2004 21:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jonathan Greenberg is currently offline  Jonathan Greenberg
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Can you explain the tcsh and ssh processing a bit more?

--j

On 1/11/04 7:47 PM, in article
cpwoodford-5D1D0B.22470711012004@corp.supernews.com, "Paul Woodford"
<cpwoodford@spamcop.net> wrote:

> In article <20040111192128928-0700@news.colorado.edu>,
> Steven V. Penton <spenton@colorado.edu> wrote:
>
>> I"ve been sending idl tasks that benefit from parallel processing to
>> multiple machines with tcsh+ssh for years, I was just hoping Xgrid
>> could steroid my wimpy processor, I guess not.
>
> It sounds like Xgrid will replace the tcsh+ssh routine (I've done it
> too) with a bit more automated process. Unfortunately there are not
> enough Macs at my company to make it worthwhile for me.
>
> Paul
Re: MacOSX: Xgrid+IDL Anyone? [message #37660 is a reply to message #37592] Sun, 11 January 2004 19:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Woodford is currently offline  Paul Woodford
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In article <20040111192128928-0700@news.colorado.edu>,
Steven V. Penton <spenton@colorado.edu> wrote:

> I"ve been sending idl tasks that benefit from parallel processing to
> multiple machines with tcsh+ssh for years, I was just hoping Xgrid
> could steroid my wimpy processor, I guess not.

It sounds like Xgrid will replace the tcsh+ssh routine (I've done it
too) with a bit more automated process. Unfortunately there are not
enough Macs at my company to make it worthwhile for me.

Paul
Re: MacOSX: Xgrid+IDL Anyone? [message #37800 is a reply to message #37637] Sat, 24 January 2004 20:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Woodford is currently offline  Paul Woodford
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In article <BC2A0DFA.1884E%greenberg@ucdavis.edu>,
Jonathan Greenberg <greenberg@ucdavis.edu> wrote:

> Can you explain the tcsh and ssh processing a bit more?

Not much to explain, at least in the way I use it; ssh to a different
machine and use a shell script or IDL batch file to run what you want.
Perhaps Steve does something more intelligent. I wonder if you could
use the -f flag with ssh to make things a bit easier...

Paul
Re: MacOSX: Xgrid+IDL Anyone? [message #37854 is a reply to message #37592] Thu, 29 January 2004 07:34 Go to previous message
Wolf Schweitzer is currently offline  Wolf Schweitzer
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Registered: October 2001
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I tried running stuff on multiple machines under Pooch
(http://www.daugerresearch.com) a while back. That would be an easy drag
and drop way to link up several machines.

Using Pooch on, say, a double processor Mac and another single processor
Mac, (together 3 processors), it is easily possible to start (launch)
software, like calling Terminal or X11. Yet this does not seem to cause
those programs to display any more than the 'number of local processors'
using the command 'hostinfo' in a terminal window.

So, I still don't know where the problem lies, but I suspect that those
applications are maybe not written in a way that allows them to take
advantage of such an environment - either at the level of the command
'hostinfo', or the application X11 or Terminal, or IDL. I assume that
IDL would be easily taking advantage of all processors if the
environment would do, too.

Dauger Research (correctly, imo) said it was a problem of the client
applications, not of Pooch per se, since specifically written
multiprocessor applications run nicely on multiple machines. Contacting
Apple about the possibility of getting more info on why X11 may not run
under Pooch did not result in relevant information so far. Maybe at this
time, it is too early?

Going to look at xgrid now.

Wolf.



Steven V. Penton wrote:

> Ok, so Xgrid on MacOSX is cool, but it doesn't seem to
> work with IDL. I've tried all the thread tweaks but I
> couldn't get a serious Poly_2d call to work. I can get
> Xgrid to pass around the IDL process to the fastest machine,
> but no luck otherwise. Has anyone else tried ?? Am I
> being naive to think that the threaded pieces of
> IDL should work?
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