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Re: mpeg quality [message #39077] Sat, 24 April 2004 16:18 Go to next message
DPJ is currently offline  DPJ
Messages: 3
Registered: October 2003
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Thanks Haje...it looks like this will work.

David

"Haje Korth" <haje.korth@jhuapl.edu> wrote in message
news:c68b7q$aus$1@aplcore.jhuapl.edu...
> Miguel,
> idl2avi can be found at
http://www.kilvarock.com/freesoftware/dlms/avi.htm.
> As Mark points out v5.6 works for IDL 6.0, even though I compiled my own
> version. idl2avi will pop up a window and you can select any Video for
> Windows compatible codec. There are other ones, but vp3 gave me the best
> quality/file size ratio. Unlike MPEG it is good for scientific
presentation.
>
> Haje
>
>
>
>
> "Miguel Angel Cordoba" <cordoba_nospam@grahi.upc.es> wrote in message
> news:40878D50.4070901@grahi.upc.es...
>> Hi Haje,
>> can you explain where can we find the idl2avi.dlm module and how we can
>> use the vp3 code?
>>
>> Thanx
>> --
>> Miguel �ngel
>>
>> Haje Korth wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>> I quit using the mpeg routines because of the crummy quality. I am
pretty
>>> happy with the idl2avi.dlm from Ronn Kling and the vp3 codec, which can
> be
>>> downloaded free of charge at http://www.vp3.com. I have been using this
>>> solution for a several months and it works great.
>>>
>>> Haje
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> _________________________________________________________
>> Miguel Angel Cordoba mailto:cordoba@grahi.upc.es
>> Tel. +34 934 017 371
>> Fax. +34 934 054 194
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Grup de Recerca Aplicada en Hidrometeorologia (GRAHI-UPC)
>> http://www.grahi.upc.es
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Centre membre de la Xarxa d'Innovacio Tecnologica XIT
>> http://www.cidem.com/xarxait
>> _________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>
>
Re: mpeg quality [message #39098 is a reply to message #39077] Thu, 22 April 2004 14:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark Hadfield is currently offline  Mark Hadfield
Messages: 783
Registered: May 1995
Senior Member
Yunxiang Zhang wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Haje Korth wrote:
>> I quit using the mpeg routines because of the crummy quality. I am pretty
>> happy with the idl2avi.dlm from Ronn Kling and the vp3 codec, which can be
>> downloaded free of charge at http://www.vp3.com. I have been using this
>> solution for a several months and it works great.
> What's the best choice for Unix/Linux guys?

For many purposes, the FLIC format, which was designed some time ago by
Autodesk as a format for CAD animations. The big limitation with FLIC is
that it supports only 8-bit colour. If you can live with that, I think
it's your best bet.

You can generate FLIC files with a command-line program, ppm2fli, and
view them on Unix with Xanim.

I have an HTML page that talks about different animation formats & shows
examples. It's normal home is hidden behind the NIWA firewall, but for a
limited time only you can see it at

ftp://ftp.niwa.co.nz/incoming/m.hadfield/animation/index.htm l

The discussion is a bit disorganised and does not take full account of
all the valuable info that Rick Towler has posted to the IDL newsgroup
over the years (though I do mention this). Also, the page suffers a bit
from being uprooted & transplanted in a new location, but it may give
you some useful info. Please be sparing when viewing the animation files
for the second example: they're big!

--
Mark Hadfield "Ka puwaha te tai nei, Hoea tatou"
m.hadfield@niwa.co.nz
National Institute for Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA)
Re: mpeg quality [message #39107 is a reply to message #39098] Thu, 22 April 2004 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
Messages: 651
Registered: May 1997
Senior Member
Miguel,
idl2avi can be found at http://www.kilvarock.com/freesoftware/dlms/avi.htm.
As Mark points out v5.6 works for IDL 6.0, even though I compiled my own
version. idl2avi will pop up a window and you can select any Video for
Windows compatible codec. There are other ones, but vp3 gave me the best
quality/file size ratio. Unlike MPEG it is good for scientific presentation.

Haje




"Miguel Angel Cordoba" <cordoba_nospam@grahi.upc.es> wrote in message
news:40878D50.4070901@grahi.upc.es...
> Hi Haje,
> can you explain where can we find the idl2avi.dlm module and how we can
> use the vp3 code?
>
> Thanx
> --
> Miguel �ngel
>
> Haje Korth wrote:
>
>> David,
>> I quit using the mpeg routines because of the crummy quality. I am pretty
>> happy with the idl2avi.dlm from Ronn Kling and the vp3 codec, which can
be
>> downloaded free of charge at http://www.vp3.com. I have been using this
>> solution for a several months and it works great.
>>
>> Haje
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> _________________________________________________________
> Miguel Angel Cordoba mailto:cordoba@grahi.upc.es
> Tel. +34 934 017 371
> Fax. +34 934 054 194
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Grup de Recerca Aplicada en Hidrometeorologia (GRAHI-UPC)
> http://www.grahi.upc.es
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Centre membre de la Xarxa d'Innovacio Tecnologica XIT
> http://www.cidem.com/xarxait
> _________________________________________________________
>
>
Re: mpeg quality [message #39108 is a reply to message #39107] Thu, 22 April 2004 04:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
Messages: 651
Registered: May 1997
Senior Member
Mark,
I actually compiled my own version from the source code. I sent the binary
to Ronn Kling for posting on his web site. Unfortunately, he has not gotten
around to post it. I would offer it on my web server, but I do not want to
take credit for something that I have not created.

Haje


"Mark Hadfield" <m.hadfield@niwa.co.nz> wrote in message
news:c67a16$ppv$1@newsreader.mailgate.org...
> Haje Korth wrote:
>> I quit using the mpeg routines because of the crummy quality. I am
pretty
>> happy with the idl2avi.dlm from Ronn Kling and the vp3 codec, which can
be
>> downloaded free of charge at http://www.vp3.com.
>
> By the way, is there an IDL 6.0-compatible version of idl2avi? I looked
> at http://www.kilvarock.com/freesoftware/dlms/avi.htm and could only
> find files for versions 5.3 to 5.6.
>
>
> --
> Mark Hadfield "Ka puwaha te tai nei, Hoea tatou"
> m.hadfield@niwa.co.nz
> National Institute for Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA)
Re: mpeg quality [message #39110 is a reply to message #39107] Thu, 22 April 2004 02:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Miguel Angel Cordoba is currently offline  Miguel Angel Cordoba
Messages: 13
Registered: April 2004
Junior Member
Hi Haje,
can you explain where can we find the idl2avi.dlm module and how we can
use the vp3 code?

Thanx
--
Miguel �ngel

Haje Korth wrote:

> David,
> I quit using the mpeg routines because of the crummy quality. I am pretty
> happy with the idl2avi.dlm from Ronn Kling and the vp3 codec, which can be
> downloaded free of charge at http://www.vp3.com. I have been using this
> solution for a several months and it works great.
>
> Haje
>
>
>

--
_________________________________________________________
Miguel Angel Cordoba mailto:cordoba@grahi.upc.es
Tel. +34 934 017 371
Fax. +34 934 054 194
---------------------------------------------------------
Grup de Recerca Aplicada en Hidrometeorologia (GRAHI-UPC)
http://www.grahi.upc.es
---------------------------------------------------------
Centre membre de la Xarxa d'Innovacio Tecnologica XIT
http://www.cidem.com/xarxait
_________________________________________________________
Re: mpeg quality [message #39113 is a reply to message #39110] Wed, 21 April 2004 23:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yunxiang Zhang is currently offline  Yunxiang Zhang
Messages: 19
Registered: October 2003
Junior Member
What's the best choice for Unix/Linux guys?

On Wed, 21 Apr 2004, Haje Korth wrote:

> David,
> I quit using the mpeg routines because of the crummy quality. I am pretty
> happy with the idl2avi.dlm from Ronn Kling and the vp3 codec, which can be
> downloaded free of charge at http://www.vp3.com. I have been using this
> solution for a several months and it works great.
>
> Haje
>
> --
>
> "David Jackson" <jacksond@dickinson.edu> wrote in message
> news:1Zbhc.1597$Ua5.1269400@monger.newsread.com...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anyone know how to improve
> the
>> quality of an mpeg written from IDL's Xinteranimate command. I tried
>> changing mpg_quality and mpg_bitrate but I always got a file that was
>> exactly the same size and quality. I must be doing something silly.
>>
>> Thanks
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: mpeg quality [message #39114 is a reply to message #39113] Wed, 21 April 2004 19:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark Hadfield is currently offline  Mark Hadfield
Messages: 783
Registered: May 1995
Senior Member
Mark Hadfield wrote:

> By the way, is there an IDL 6.0-compatible version of idl2avi? I looked
> at http://www.kilvarock.com/freesoftware/dlms/avi.htm and could only
> find files for versions 5.3 to 5.6.

Answering my own question: the IDL 5.6 version seems to work with IDL 6.0.

--
Mark Hadfield "Ka puwaha te tai nei, Hoea tatou"
m.hadfield@niwa.co.nz
National Institute for Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA)
Re: mpeg quality [message #39115 is a reply to message #39114] Wed, 21 April 2004 19:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark Hadfield is currently offline  Mark Hadfield
Messages: 783
Registered: May 1995
Senior Member
Haje Korth wrote:
> I quit using the mpeg routines because of the crummy quality. I am pretty
> happy with the idl2avi.dlm from Ronn Kling and the vp3 codec, which can be
> downloaded free of charge at http://www.vp3.com.

By the way, is there an IDL 6.0-compatible version of idl2avi? I looked
at http://www.kilvarock.com/freesoftware/dlms/avi.htm and could only
find files for versions 5.3 to 5.6.


--
Mark Hadfield "Ka puwaha te tai nei, Hoea tatou"
m.hadfield@niwa.co.nz
National Institute for Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA)
Re: mpeg quality [message #39126 is a reply to message #39115] Wed, 21 April 2004 09:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
Messages: 651
Registered: May 1997
Senior Member
David,
I quit using the mpeg routines because of the crummy quality. I am pretty
happy with the idl2avi.dlm from Ronn Kling and the vp3 codec, which can be
downloaded free of charge at http://www.vp3.com. I have been using this
solution for a several months and it works great.

Haje

--

"David Jackson" <jacksond@dickinson.edu> wrote in message
news:1Zbhc.1597$Ua5.1269400@monger.newsread.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anyone know how to improve
the
> quality of an mpeg written from IDL's Xinteranimate command. I tried
> changing mpg_quality and mpg_bitrate but I always got a file that was
> exactly the same size and quality. I must be doing something silly.
>
> Thanks
> David
>
>
>
Re: mpeg quality [message #39132 is a reply to message #39126] Tue, 20 April 2004 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kenneth P. Bowman is currently offline  Kenneth P. Bowman
Messages: 585
Registered: May 2000
Senior Member
In article <1Zbhc.1597$Ua5.1269400@monger.newsread.com>,
"David Jackson" <jacksond@dickinson.edu> wrote:

> Sorry if this has been asked before, but does anyone know how to improve the
> quality of an mpeg written from IDL's Xinteranimate command. I tried
> changing mpg_quality and mpg_bitrate but I always got a file that was
> exactly the same size and quality. I must be doing something silly.

Because MPEG was mainly designed to handle "photographs", I have never
liked what it does to scientific graphs (line graphs, in particular).
I find that it is better to TVRD each frame and then write the image
to a file (I prefer PNGs, but there are other options ... see WRITE_IMAGE).
Then use a utility to convert the images to a movie using a codec that
is better suited for graphics (e.g, lossless). On the Mac I use
GraphicConverter (shareware) with the "Animation" codec. QuickTime Pro will
also do the conversion, I believe. QuickTime Pro is available for Windows.
Other readers can provide other suggestions.

Ken Bowman
Re: mpeg quality [message #39214 is a reply to message #39077] Mon, 26 April 2004 10:47 Go to previous message
Rick Towler is currently offline  Rick Towler
Messages: 821
Registered: August 1998
Senior Member
This may be obvious but remember that in order to play back an animation
created with vp3 the user needs the vp3 codec installed. If your animations
are intended for a limited audience which you have some control over you're
usually fine. But if you are making these available to a wide audience then
you're in for a bit of a headache.

Not that there is much you can do to limit the pain though. The only codecs
that are shipped with most every OS are the Radius Cinepack codec and some
version of the MPEG-1 codec. Both are poor codecs for scientific animation
so there is no universal solution.

If you are going to be presenting your animations find out well ahead of
time if you can use your own laptop. Most seminars/conferences I attend
these days seem to strongly encourage all speakers to use a single laptop to
cut down on laptop/projector "issues". I don't know if this is a trend...
(Physicists insert joke about how biologists can't use computers here.)
Using custom codecs in this scenario takes extra effort.

-Rick


"DPJ" <dpjackson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mBCic.331$g31.234@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> Thanks Haje...it looks like this will work.
>
> David
>
> "Haje Korth" <haje.korth@jhuapl.edu> wrote in message
> news:c68b7q$aus$1@aplcore.jhuapl.edu...
>> Miguel,
>> idl2avi can be found at
> http://www.kilvarock.com/freesoftware/dlms/avi.htm.
>> As Mark points out v5.6 works for IDL 6.0, even though I compiled my own
>> version. idl2avi will pop up a window and you can select any Video for
>> Windows compatible codec. There are other ones, but vp3 gave me the best
>> quality/file size ratio. Unlike MPEG it is good for scientific
> presentation.
>>
>> Haje
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Miguel Angel Cordoba" <cordoba_nospam@grahi.upc.es> wrote in message
>> news:40878D50.4070901@grahi.upc.es...
>>> Hi Haje,
>>> can you explain where can we find the idl2avi.dlm module and how we
can
>>> use the vp3 code?
>>>
>>> Thanx
>>> --
>>> Miguel �ngel
>>>
>>> Haje Korth wrote:
>>>
>>>> David,
>>>> I quit using the mpeg routines because of the crummy quality. I am
> pretty
>>>> happy with the idl2avi.dlm from Ronn Kling and the vp3 codec, which
can
>> be
>>>> downloaded free of charge at http://www.vp3.com. I have been using
this
>>>> solution for a several months and it works great.
>>>>
>>>> Haje
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>> Miguel Angel Cordoba mailto:cordoba@grahi.upc.es
>>> Tel. +34 934 017 371
>>> Fax. +34 934 054 194
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> Grup de Recerca Aplicada en Hidrometeorologia (GRAHI-UPC)
>>> http://www.grahi.upc.es
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>> Centre membre de la Xarxa d'Innovacio Tecnologica XIT
>>> http://www.cidem.com/xarxait
>>> _________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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