| Re: IDLWave upgrading? [message #47100] |
Wed, 25 January 2006 05:45  |
Bruce Bowler
Messages: 128
Registered: September 1998
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:04:11 -0700, JD Smith put fingers to keyboard and
said:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:00:35 -0500, Bruce Bowler wrote:
>
>> I probably ought to direct this to JD via mail, but this way everyone can
>> benefit...
>>
>> I'm currently running IDLwave 5.0 and IDL 6.1. I think it's time to
>> upgrade IDLwave to 5.6.
>>
>> What are the "gotchas" that I ought to look out for? Should I uninstall
>> 5.0 before I try and install 5.6?
>
> The only real gotcha is if your old IDLWAVE is still installed, and
> Emacs find that one first. This is easy to see, since the version is
> printed when IDLWAVE starts up (also, C-h m will show the version).
> Normally, this is not a problem, if you are installing to the same
> place, it will just overwrite the old files with the new, and you
> should be good to go. You'll probably also need to grab and install
> the HTML help relevant for IDL 6.1.
>
> That said, you could just wait for IDLWAVE 6.0, due out "any time
> now", which interfaces with the new IDL Assistant, and makes
> downloading any help unnecessary (since it comes bundled with IDL
> now). Lots of other nice improvements as well.
>
> JD
Done, and as predicted, painless...
One question. One of my motivations for upgrading was that
IDLWAVE>>Documentation>>Launch IDL Help
didn't.
I had assumed that it was because I was on IDL 6.1 and IDLWave 5.0 and
there was a "version mismatch" going on. Even after upgrading, it still
doesn't. Context sensitive help works, but Launch IDL help doesn't work.
Any clues about how to make it work would be most appreciated.
Bruce
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| Re: IDLWave upgrading? [message #47113 is a reply to message #47100] |
Tue, 24 January 2006 12:04  |
JD Smith
Messages: 850
Registered: December 1999
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Senior Member |
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:00:35 -0500, Bruce Bowler wrote:
> I probably ought to direct this to JD via mail, but this way everyone can
> benefit...
>
> I'm currently running IDLwave 5.0 and IDL 6.1. I think it's time to
> upgrade IDLwave to 5.6.
>
> What are the "gotchas" that I ought to look out for? Should I uninstall
> 5.0 before I try and install 5.6?
The only real gotcha is if your old IDLWAVE is still installed, and
Emacs find that one first. This is easy to see, since the version is
printed when IDLWAVE starts up (also, C-h m will show the version).
Normally, this is not a problem, if you are installing to the same
place, it will just overwrite the old files with the new, and you
should be good to go. You'll probably also need to grab and install
the HTML help relevant for IDL 6.1.
That said, you could just wait for IDLWAVE 6.0, due out "any time
now", which interfaces with the new IDL Assistant, and makes
downloading any help unnecessary (since it comes bundled with IDL
now). Lots of other nice improvements as well.
JD
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| Re: IDLWave upgrading? [message #47193 is a reply to message #47100] |
Wed, 25 January 2006 08:52 |
JD Smith
Messages: 850
Registered: December 1999
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Senior Member |
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:45:09 -0500, Bruce Bowler wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:04:11 -0700, JD Smith put fingers to keyboard and
> said:
>
>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:00:35 -0500, Bruce Bowler wrote:
>>
>>> I probably ought to direct this to JD via mail, but this way everyone
>>> can benefit...
>>>
>>> I'm currently running IDLwave 5.0 and IDL 6.1. I think it's time to
>>> upgrade IDLwave to 5.6.
>>>
>>> What are the "gotchas" that I ought to look out for? Should I
>>> uninstall 5.0 before I try and install 5.6?
>>
>> The only real gotcha is if your old IDLWAVE is still installed, and
>> Emacs find that one first. This is easy to see, since the version is
>> printed when IDLWAVE starts up (also, C-h m will show the version).
>> Normally, this is not a problem, if you are installing to the same
>> place, it will just overwrite the old files with the new, and you
>> should be good to go. You'll probably also need to grab and install
>> the HTML help relevant for IDL 6.1.
>>
>> That said, you could just wait for IDLWAVE 6.0, due out "any time now",
>> which interfaces with the new IDL Assistant, and makes downloading any
>> help unnecessary (since it comes bundled with IDL now). Lots of other
>> nice improvements as well.
>>
>> JD
>
> Done, and as predicted, painless...
>
> One question. One of my motivations for upgrading was that
> IDLWAVE>>Documentation>>Launch IDL Help
> didn't.
>
> I had assumed that it was because I was on IDL 6.1 and IDLWave 5.0 and
> there was a "version mismatch" going on. Even after upgrading, it still
> doesn't. Context sensitive help works, but Launch IDL help doesn't
> work. Any clues about how to make it work would be most appreciated.
All that menu does, with IDLWAVE 5.6 and IDL 6.1 is attempt to call the
command "idlhelp", which by default is defined by the IDL installers to
launch the PDF version of the help (which I find somewhat useless). If
such a command is not on the program search path available to Emacs, it
won't launch. With IDLWAVE 6.0, that command will launch or raise the IDL
Assistant, which is where context help goes by default as well, and so
will be much more useful. A simple way to get the context HTML help in
your version is just say M-? on any valid routine/statement/etc.
JD
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| Re: IDLWave upgrading? [message #47224 is a reply to message #47193] |
Mon, 30 January 2006 06:09 |
Bruce Bowler
Messages: 128
Registered: September 1998
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Senior Member |
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On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 09:52:20 -0700, JD Smith put fingers to keyboard and
said:
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 08:45:09 -0500, Bruce Bowler wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 13:04:11 -0700, JD Smith put fingers to keyboard and
>> said:
>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:00:35 -0500, Bruce Bowler wrote:
>>>
>>>> I probably ought to direct this to JD via mail, but this way everyone
>>>> can benefit...
>>>>
>>>> I'm currently running IDLwave 5.0 and IDL 6.1. I think it's time to
>>>> upgrade IDLwave to 5.6.
>>>>
>>>> What are the "gotchas" that I ought to look out for? Should I
>>>> uninstall 5.0 before I try and install 5.6?
>>>
>>> The only real gotcha is if your old IDLWAVE is still installed, and
>>> Emacs find that one first. This is easy to see, since the version is
>>> printed when IDLWAVE starts up (also, C-h m will show the version).
>>> Normally, this is not a problem, if you are installing to the same
>>> place, it will just overwrite the old files with the new, and you
>>> should be good to go. You'll probably also need to grab and install
>>> the HTML help relevant for IDL 6.1.
>>>
>>> That said, you could just wait for IDLWAVE 6.0, due out "any time now",
>>> which interfaces with the new IDL Assistant, and makes downloading any
>>> help unnecessary (since it comes bundled with IDL now). Lots of other
>>> nice improvements as well.
>>>
>>> JD
>>
>> Done, and as predicted, painless...
>>
>> One question. One of my motivations for upgrading was that
>> IDLWAVE>>Documentation>>Launch IDL Help
>> didn't.
>>
>> I had assumed that it was because I was on IDL 6.1 and IDLWave 5.0 and
>> there was a "version mismatch" going on. Even after upgrading, it still
>> doesn't. Context sensitive help works, but Launch IDL help doesn't
>> work. Any clues about how to make it work would be most appreciated.
>
> All that menu does, with IDLWAVE 5.6 and IDL 6.1 is attempt to call the
> command "idlhelp", which by default is defined by the IDL installers to
> launch the PDF version of the help (which I find somewhat useless). If
> such a command is not on the program search path available to Emacs, it
> won't launch. With IDLWAVE 6.0, that command will launch or raise the IDL
> Assistant, which is where context help goes by default as well, and so
> will be much more useful. A simple way to get the context HTML help in
> your version is just say M-? on any valid routine/statement/etc.
>
> JD
[bcb@modis bin]$ which idlhelp
/usr/local/bin/idlhelp
So the shell knows how to find it. Is there something I can type within
emacs that might reveal clues as to why it's not being launched?
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