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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48795] Wed, 24 May 2006 15:40 Go to next message
Mike Wallace is currently offline  Mike Wallace
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> Eclipse is implemented in Java isn't it? Uh oh. I've worked with a few
> Java GUIs on Windows and I've never seen one that works anywhere near as
> well as native applications.

Eclipse one of the best IDEs I've ever used. Yes, it's written in Java,
but Eclipse uses SWT rather than AWT or Swing. SWT is different because
rather than trying to emulate some native widget functionality, it uses
the native GUI as much as possible. The only widgets that are emulated
are those which do not corresponding native widget.

-Mike
Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48799 is a reply to message #48795] Wed, 24 May 2006 14:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark Hadfield is currently offline  Mark Hadfield
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louie wrote:
> hi pete,
>
> there is a new ide coming. it is currently planned to be released in
> idl 7.0. the existing ide will be completely replaced by a new and
> modern ide. it will have all the features of a modern ide!! it will
> be based on eclipse and will work on both unix and windows platforms.
> there is a plan for a tech preview later this year so stayed tuned.

Eclipse is implemented in Java isn't it? Uh oh. I've worked with a few
Java GUIs on Windows and I've never seen one that works anywhere near as
well as native applications.

Still, on the bright side, it will probably be an improvement on Unix...


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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48801 is a reply to message #48799] Wed, 24 May 2006 12:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
swingnut is currently offline  swingnut
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louie wrote:
> hi pete,
>
> there is a new ide coming. it is currently planned to be released in
> idl 7.0. the existing ide will be completely replaced by a new and
> modern ide. it will have all the features of a modern ide!! it will
> be based on eclipse and will work on both unix and windows platforms.
> there is a plan for a tech preview later this year so stayed tuned.
>
> thanks,
> loue genduso
> sw engineer
> research systems inc

Though I'd prefered sooner, like yesterday (cause who doesn't want
something that makes life better, sooner ;-) ), good to know. Thanks.
Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48802 is a reply to message #48801] Wed, 24 May 2006 08:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mike Wallace is currently offline  Mike Wallace
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> there is a new ide coming. it is currently planned to be released in
> idl 7.0. the existing ide will be completely replaced by a new and
> modern ide. it will have all the features of a modern ide!! it will
> be based on eclipse and will work on both unix and windows platforms.

When you say that it is based on Eclipse, what do you mean? Will it
just look similar to Eclipse or will it be able to actually integrate
into Eclipse? I use Eclipse for all my non-IDL code and having and IDL
module right there in Eclipse would be very sweet indeed.

-Mike
Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48804 is a reply to message #48802] Wed, 24 May 2006 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peter Clinch is currently offline  Peter Clinch
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louie wrote:

> there is a new ide coming. it is currently planned to be released in
> idl 7.0.

Thanks for the update. Can we assume that 7.0 is the next release, or
will there be 6.4 etc. first?

> sw engineer
> research systems inc

Shouldn't that be ITTVIS? ;-)

Pete.
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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48806 is a reply to message #48804] Wed, 24 May 2006 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
louie is currently offline  louie
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hi pete,

there is a new ide coming. it is currently planned to be released in
idl 7.0. the existing ide will be completely replaced by a new and
modern ide. it will have all the features of a modern ide!! it will
be based on eclipse and will work on both unix and windows platforms.
there is a plan for a tech preview later this year so stayed tuned.

thanks,
loue genduso
sw engineer
research systems inc
Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48809 is a reply to message #48806] Wed, 24 May 2006 00:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peter Clinch is currently offline  Peter Clinch
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swingnut@gmail.com wrote:
> Back at the end of January I asked the question, <A
> href=" http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.idl-pvwave/browse_f rm/thread/ea5ef24dabf42470/a71198074c1fcce4?tvc=1&q=swin gnut#a71198074c1fcce4">Where
> are my friggin line numbers?</A> Peter Clinch mentioned that there was
> possibly a new IDE being released wiht version 6.3, and to check in
> March. March has come and gone, but google shows no signs of a new IDE.
> Does anyone know the details of the story?

My comment based on an "advance peek" at some things RSI were looking at
shipping in 6.3, then (Summer 2005) scheduled for March 2006. As it
happens, 6.3 didn't ship until April/May, and when it arrived there was
no new editor etc. with it. I don't know if it's been shelved, delayed,
or what.

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net p.j.clinch@dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/
Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48891 is a reply to message #48799] Thu, 25 May 2006 07:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ben Panter is currently offline  Ben Panter
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Mark Hadfield wrote:

> Eclipse is implemented in Java isn't it? Uh oh. I've worked with a few
> Java GUIs on Windows and I've never seen one that works anywhere near as
> well as native applications.

I already use eclipse to manage my code, both IDL and non-IDL. It's
great, and I have it running in both XP and linux environments with no
problems. It's CVS handling is pretty sweet too...

If RSI/ICRNA[1] are reading this and looking for beta testers, I'd be
happy to oblige...

Ben

[1] - I Can't Remember the New Acronym

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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48894 is a reply to message #48891] Mon, 05 June 2006 10:14 Go to previous message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
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Registered: November 1998
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Hi Ben

which other version control systems were implemented?

Is for example mercurial (http://www.selenic.com/mercurial) available too?

cheers
Reimar



Ben Panter wrote:

> Mark Hadfield wrote:
>
>> Eclipse is implemented in Java isn't it? Uh oh. I've worked with a few
>> Java GUIs on Windows and I've never seen one that works anywhere near as
>> well as native applications.
>
> I already use eclipse to manage my code, both IDL and non-IDL. It's
> great, and I have it running in both XP and linux environments with no
> problems. It's CVS handling is pretty sweet too...
>
> If RSI/ICRNA[1] are reading this and looking for beta testers, I'd be
> happy to oblige...
>
> Ben
>
> [1] - I Can't Remember the New Acronym
>
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