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Promised new IDE? [message #48811]

Tue, 23 May 2006 17:21

swingnut
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Registered: September 2005

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Back at the end of January I asked the question, <A
href=" http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.idl-pvwave/browse_f rm/thread/ea5ef24dabf42470/a71198074c1fcce4?tvc=1&q=swin gnut#a71198074c1fcce4">Where
are my friggin line numbers?</A> Peter Clinch mentioned that there was
possibly a new IDE being released wiht version 6.3, and to check in
March. March has come and gone, but google shows no signs of a new IDE.
Does anyone know the details of the story?

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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48846 is a reply to message #48811]

Wed, 31 May 2006 08:37

Michael Galloy
Messages: 1114
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

David Fanning wrote:
> Michael Galloy writes:
>> It is also "project based" (i.e. every file is part of a project), so
>> I'm interested in how that is going to work for the "interactive IDL" users.
>
> Oh, oh. The thing isn't even released yet and already we are
> hearing about the Dark Side. This can't be good.

I would just call it a lack of my imagination.

>> The other thing that I think will be great is that it should be open to
>> third party authors making plugins that extend (or change) the
>> functionality of the DE. It only takes a few developers out there making
>> plugins to greatly enhance the value of the new DE.
>
> Well, now *this* sounds like the marketing model I'm more
> used to. :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> P.S. Do you think the people making the value-added plug-ins
> will get a T-shirt?
>

Believe me, if there was anything I could have done about the Unix DE, I
would have done it long ago. I think this is a step up.

Mike
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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48849 is a reply to message #48811]

Tue, 30 May 2006 16:23

David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001

Senior Member

Michael Galloy writes:

> I use Eclipse as well and I'll agree that it is great (and I've used it
> on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X). It has a bit of startup time, but
> after that I don't really notice it being any slower than a native app.
> It is also "project based" (i.e. every file is part of a project), so
> I'm interested in how that is going to work for the "interactive IDL" users.

Oh, oh. The thing isn't even released yet and already we are
hearing about the Dark Side. This can't be good.

> The other thing that I think will be great is that it should be open to
> third party authors making plugins that extend (or change) the
> functionality of the DE. It only takes a few developers out there making
> plugins to greatly enhance the value of the new DE.

Well, now *this* sounds like the marketing model I'm more
used to. :-)

Cheers,

David

P.S. Do you think the people making the value-added plug-ins
will get a T-shirt?

--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/

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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48850 is a reply to message #48811]

Tue, 30 May 2006 16:12

Michael Galloy
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Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

Mark Hadfield wrote:
> Ben Panter wrote:
>> Mark Hadfield wrote:
>>
>>> Eclipse is implemented in Java isn't it? Uh oh. I've worked with a
>>> few Java GUIs on Windows and I've never seen one that works anywhere
>>> near as well as native applications.
>>
>> I already use eclipse to manage my code, both IDL and non-IDL. It's
>> great, and I have it running in both XP and linux environments with no
>> problems.
>
> That's reassuring.

I use Eclipse as well and I'll agree that it is great (and I've used it
on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X). It has a bit of startup time, but
after that I don't really notice it being any slower than a native app.
It is also "project based" (i.e. every file is part of a project), so
I'm interested in how that is going to work for the "interactive IDL" users.

The other thing that I think will be great is that it should be open to
third party authors making plugins that extend (or change) the
functionality of the DE. It only takes a few developers out there making
plugins to greatly enhance the value of the new DE.

Mike
--
www.michaelgalloy.com

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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48852 is a reply to message #48811]

Tue, 30 May 2006 15:48

Mark Hadfield
Messages: 783
Registered: May 1995

Senior Member

Ben Panter wrote:
> Mark Hadfield wrote:
>
>> Eclipse is implemented in Java isn't it? Uh oh. I've worked with a
>> few Java GUIs on Windows and I've never seen one that works anywhere
>> near as well as native applications.
>
> I already use eclipse to manage my code, both IDL and non-IDL. It's
> great, and I have it running in both XP and linux environments with no
> problems.

That's reassuring.

> If RSI/ICRNA[1] are reading this and looking for beta testers, I'd be
> happy to oblige...

Me too.

--
Mark Hadfield "Kei puwaha te tai nei, Hoea tahi tatou"
m.hadfield@niwa.co.nz
National Institute for Water and Atmospheric Research (NIWA)

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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48892 is a reply to message #48811]

Mon, 05 June 2006 12:47

Paul Van Delst[1]
Messages: 1157
Registered: April 2002

Senior Member

Michael Galloy wrote:
> Reimar Bauer wrote:
>
>> which other version control systems were implemented?
>>
>> Is for example mercurial (http://www.selenic.com/mercurial) available
>> too?
>
>
> It looks like there might be a couple projects to do this. This one
>
> http://www.vectrace.com/mercurialeclipse/
>
> seems like the best chance.

And there's a subversion plugin too:

http://subclipse.tigris.org/

paulv

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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48893 is a reply to message #48811]

Mon, 05 June 2006 12:31

Michael Galloy
Messages: 1114
Registered: April 2006

Senior Member

Reimar Bauer wrote:
> which other version control systems were implemented?
>
> Is for example mercurial (http://www.selenic.com/mercurial) available too?

It looks like there might be a couple projects to do this. This one

http://www.vectrace.com/mercurialeclipse/

seems like the best chance.

Mike
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www.michaelgalloy.com

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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48897 is a reply to message #48811]

Sun, 04 June 2006 22:11

Michael Galloy
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Registered: April 2006

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Paul Van Delst wrote:
> Slightly off-topic, but what does one do if, for a new project, files
> from other projects are required?

Other files and folders can be linked to, if they are part of another
project or not.

Mike
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Re: Promised new IDE? [message #48911 is a reply to message #48850]

Fri, 02 June 2006 09:59

Paul Van Delst[1]
Messages: 1157
Registered: April 2002

Senior Member

Michael Galloy wrote:
> Mark Hadfield wrote:
>
>> Ben Panter wrote:
>>
>>> Mark Hadfield wrote:
>>>
>>>> Eclipse is implemented in Java isn't it? Uh oh. I've worked with a
>>>> few Java GUIs on Windows and I've never seen one that works anywhere
>>>> near as well as native applications.
>>>
>>>
>>> I already use eclipse to manage my code, both IDL and non-IDL. It's
>>> great, and I have it running in both XP and linux environments with
>>> no problems.
>>
>>
>> That's reassuring.
>
>
> I use Eclipse as well and I'll agree that it is great (and I've used it
> on Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X). It has a bit of startup time, but
> after that I don't really notice it being any slower than a native app.
> It is also "project based" (i.e. every file is part of a project), so
> I'm interested in how that is going to work for the "interactive IDL"
> users.

I installed eclipse the other day based on this thread (and the fact that there is a f95
plugin).

Slightly off-topic, but what does one do if, for a new project, files from other projects
are required?

paulv

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CIMSS @ NOAA/NCEP/EMC Eddy Merckx
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