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Re: PU license horror [message #49532] Fri, 28 July 2006 09:29
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
Messages: 651
Registered: May 1997
Senior Member
Mike,
The PU license is the personal use license that are specific to a
person but this person may use it on up to 5 (?, may be 3) machines.
This morning was the first time I noticed that it behaves different
from a regular license. In order to prevent multiple people from
accessing such license on a terminal server, a check was implemented to
avoid license abuse. Makes sense, but remote desktop control is not the
same as terminal server use and it prevented me (temporarily) from
getting my work done. But not for long... :-)

Cheers,
Haje


Mike Chinander wrote:
> In article <1154100360.199001.233730@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> Haje Korth <haje.korth@jhuapl.edu> wrote:
>> Hi,
>
>> So the question is whether I can circumvent the problem doing the
>> following: Install Linux on the machine, install IDL with PU license,
>> and then access this IDL for Linux installation via an X Client. Does
>> IDL for Linux allow this operation, or does it check for an X session
>> and block IDL from running as well?
>>
>> Comments highly appreciated...
>>
>
> I'm not sure what a PU license is, but normally IDL use one license (or 6, actually) for each DISPLAY
> on Linux and other Unix OSes. So multiple instances of IDL on the same DISPLAY (e.g., :0.0) use only
> one set of licenses. I just checked with lmstat and oddly enough, I'm using 6 licenses for DISPLAY :0
> and 6 more for :0.0.
>
> --Mike Chinander
Re: PU license horror [message #49533 is a reply to message #49532] Fri, 28 July 2006 09:25 Go to previous message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
Messages: 651
Registered: May 1997
Senior Member
Lajos,
of course, VNC is the solution! I should have thought about that. You
are a genious. :-) I was thinking there should be a way around this.

Thanks,
Haje


FĂ–LDY Lajos wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Haje Korth wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I just ran into a nightmare scenario. I have a PU license and need to
>> move some heavy duty processing on a second machine. So I installed IDL
>> 6.3 with PU license on the second machine, which I access via Remote
>> Desktop Control because I am running out of room for yet another
>> monitor on my desk. To my disgust, I get a license error like "Terminal
>> server remote control not allowed". So IDL seems to be checking for the
>> RDP protocol traffic. I suppose allowing this operation could lead to
>> some sort of license abuse, but in my situation this is just painful.
>>
>> So the question is whether I can circumvent the problem doing the
>> following: Install Linux on the machine, install IDL with PU license,
>> and then access this IDL for Linux installation via an X Client. Does
>> IDL for Linux allow this operation, or does it check for an X session
>> and block IDL from running as well?
>>
>> Comments highly appreciated...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Haje
>>
>
> I can access IDL 6.3 (Windows) at office from home through ADSL with an
> ssh/VNC combination:
>
> [linux@home] -- ssh -- [linux@office] -- vncviewer -- [windows xp@office]
>
> I use the RealVNC (http://www.realvnc.com) server on the windows machine.
>
> Your linux solution will work, too.
>
> good luck,
> lajos
Re: PU license horror [message #49534 is a reply to message #49533] Fri, 28 July 2006 09:02 Go to previous message
mchinand is currently offline  mchinand
Messages: 66
Registered: September 1996
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In article <1154100360.199001.233730@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
Haje Korth <haje.korth@jhuapl.edu> wrote:
> Hi,

> So the question is whether I can circumvent the problem doing the
> following: Install Linux on the machine, install IDL with PU license,
> and then access this IDL for Linux installation via an X Client. Does
> IDL for Linux allow this operation, or does it check for an X session
> and block IDL from running as well?
>
> Comments highly appreciated...
>

I'm not sure what a PU license is, but normally IDL use one license (or 6, actually) for each DISPLAY
on Linux and other Unix OSes. So multiple instances of IDL on the same DISPLAY (e.g., :0.0) use only
one set of licenses. I just checked with lmstat and oddly enough, I'm using 6 licenses for DISPLAY :0
and 6 more for :0.0.

--Mike Chinander
Re: PU license horror [message #49535 is a reply to message #49534] Fri, 28 July 2006 09:00 Go to previous message
Foldy Lajos is currently offline  Foldy Lajos
Messages: 268
Registered: October 2001
Senior Member
Hi,

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Haje Korth wrote:

> Hi,
> I just ran into a nightmare scenario. I have a PU license and need to
> move some heavy duty processing on a second machine. So I installed IDL
> 6.3 with PU license on the second machine, which I access via Remote
> Desktop Control because I am running out of room for yet another
> monitor on my desk. To my disgust, I get a license error like "Terminal
> server remote control not allowed". So IDL seems to be checking for the
> RDP protocol traffic. I suppose allowing this operation could lead to
> some sort of license abuse, but in my situation this is just painful.
>
> So the question is whether I can circumvent the problem doing the
> following: Install Linux on the machine, install IDL with PU license,
> and then access this IDL for Linux installation via an X Client. Does
> IDL for Linux allow this operation, or does it check for an X session
> and block IDL from running as well?
>
> Comments highly appreciated...
>
> Cheers,
> Haje
>

I can access IDL 6.3 (Windows) at office from home through ADSL with an
ssh/VNC combination:

[linux@home] -- ssh -- [linux@office] -- vncviewer -- [windows xp@office]

I use the RealVNC (http://www.realvnc.com) server on the windows machine.

Your linux solution will work, too.

good luck,
lajos
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