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Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53403] Sat, 14 April 2007 13:40 Go to next message
vitaly.neustroev is currently offline  vitaly.neustroev
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Registered: April 2007
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On Apr 14, 12:00 am, b...@kaifler.net wrote:
> Juhu! I finally found the problem. Took me some time to figure this
> out but it is the libx11-6 library. libx11-6 2:1.0.3-7 brakes IDL.
> I installed now libx11-6 2:1.0.3-4 and IDL runs again.

You are a genius! You saved me! Indeed, there was a problem with
libx11-1.0.3-7
I have just replaced it with libx11-1.0.3-6 (I use FC6), and
everything is working fine now. Thanks!!

Vitaly.
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53412 is a reply to message #53403] Fri, 13 April 2007 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bk1 is currently offline  bk1
Messages: 7
Registered: February 2007
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Juhu! I finally found the problem. Took me some time to figure this
out but it is the libx11-6 library. libx11-6 2:1.0.3-7 brakes IDL.
I installed now libx11-6 2:1.0.3-4 and IDL runs again.

Hope this helps,

Bernd
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53415 is a reply to message #53412] Fri, 13 April 2007 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jean H. is currently offline  Jean H.
Messages: 472
Registered: July 2006
Senior Member
What I got from ITTVIS:

------------
This bug report is our developer Steve Houston's top priority now, and
he says he has made progress toward identifying the deep source of the
problem, but does not yet have the definitive workaround for it. It is
indeed a problem of this latest ' Xorg-X11 server' compatibility with
IDL. Do you know how to restore the last installed version of the X
server from before this latest update? That is the main advice that we
would give at this time.

I hope to have more from Steve Houston next week. Feel free to remind me
whenever you want that you are waiting for an answer ... and check the
IDL User Forum.

Regards,

James Jay Jones
Technical Support Engineer
ITT Visual Information Solutions
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53416 is a reply to message #53415] Fri, 13 April 2007 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jean H. is currently offline  Jean H.
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Registered: July 2006
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bk1@kaifler.net wrote:
> Ah, by the way, do know which packages were updated? May be we can
> merge our lists to sort out the package which broke IDL.
>
> Bernd
>

That sounds good... I will check that on Monday morning (the beast is
running windows now).

Which file is the update log? ... I haven't find an obvious one!

Jean
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53418 is a reply to message #53416] Fri, 13 April 2007 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bk1 is currently offline  bk1
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Registered: February 2007
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Ah, by the way, do know which packages were updated? May be we can
merge our lists to sort out the package which broke IDL.

Bernd
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53419 is a reply to message #53418] Fri, 13 April 2007 14:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bk1 is currently offline  bk1
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Registered: February 2007
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> Please excuse my ignorance.... but.... how do you that???

I installed the old packages manually form
http://snapshot.debian.net/

It looks like the problem is not the x-server. I reverted the x-server
to the version installed on the laptop of my girlfried (IDL runs
without problem there) and IDL is still crashing.

During the update which broke IDL, about 30 other packages were
changed on my system. Of course it is possible to downgrade each
package (and in the end IDL should run again) but at the moment I am
not willing to do it.
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53463 is a reply to message #53419] Wed, 11 April 2007 13:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jean H. is currently offline  Jean H.
Messages: 472
Registered: July 2006
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> It seems to be indeed a problem with the x-server. IDL is doing fine
> on a Debian box (sarge) which was not updated the last 3 weeks. As
> soon as I have time, I will revert to the old version of xorg-x11-
> server.
>
> Bernd
>

Please excuse my ignorance.... but.... how do you that???

Jean
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53465 is a reply to message #53463] Wed, 11 April 2007 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bk1 is currently offline  bk1
Messages: 7
Registered: February 2007
Junior Member
> I have the same problem.... I am using Fedora Core 6. Indeed, it was
> working well until this morning (or a bit earlier, I might not have
> noticed!), when I did an update of Xorg-X11....
>
> Build Date: 08 April 2007
> Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.1.1-47.8.fc6
>
> Before the update, it was:
> Build Date: 28 February 2007
> Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.1.1-47.7.fc6

It seems to be indeed a problem with the x-server. IDL is doing fine
on a Debian box (sarge) which was not updated the last 3 weeks. As
soon as I have time, I will revert to the old version of xorg-x11-
server.

Bernd
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53466 is a reply to message #53465] Wed, 11 April 2007 10:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jean H. is currently offline  Jean H.
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I have contacted ITTVIS... I will let you know as soon as I get an answer!
Please do the same if you find a workaround!

Jean
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53467 is a reply to message #53466] Wed, 11 April 2007 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jean H. is currently offline  Jean H.
Messages: 472
Registered: July 2006
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Jean H. wrote:
> bk1@kaifler.net wrote:
>> I am using IDL 6.2 on a linux box (Debian etch). Everything workes
>> fine except TV and related procedures. When executing
>>
>> D = BYTSCL(DIST(256)) & TV, D
>>
>> the IDL Development Enviroment crashes without warning.
>> Has anyone experienced the same problem?
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have the same problem.... I am using Fedora Core 6. Indeed, it was
> working well until this morning (or a bit earlier, I might not have
> noticed!), when I did an update of Xorg-X11....
>
> Build Date: 08 April 2007
> Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.1.1-47.8.fc6
>
> Before the update, it was:
> Build Date: 28 February 2007
> Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.1.1-47.7.fc6
>
> Does anyone knows how to revert to the previous version? (I already
> lost too much time trying to figure things out in Linux ... I don't want
> to fight with this one!)
>
> Jean

Oh, I forgot to mention: ENVI won't even start!
In both cases (IDL or ENVI), if you start it from the command line, you
get a "segmentation fault" error...

Jean
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53468 is a reply to message #53467] Wed, 11 April 2007 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Jean H. is currently offline  Jean H.
Messages: 472
Registered: July 2006
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bk1@kaifler.net wrote:
> I am using IDL 6.2 on a linux box (Debian etch). Everything workes
> fine except TV and related procedures. When executing
>
> D = BYTSCL(DIST(256)) & TV, D
>
> the IDL Development Enviroment crashes without warning.
> Has anyone experienced the same problem?
>

Hi,

I have the same problem.... I am using Fedora Core 6. Indeed, it was
working well until this morning (or a bit earlier, I might not have
noticed!), when I did an update of Xorg-X11....

Build Date: 08 April 2007
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.1.1-47.8.fc6

Before the update, it was:
Build Date: 28 February 2007
Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.1.1-47.7.fc6

Does anyone knows how to revert to the previous version? (I already
lost too much time trying to figure things out in Linux ... I don't want
to fight with this one!)

Jean
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53473 is a reply to message #53468] Wed, 11 April 2007 07:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
news.verizon.net is currently offline  news.verizon.net
Messages: 47
Registered: August 2003
Member
O> I have tested IDL 6.2 on another linux box (Debian sarge) without
any
> crashes so far.

There is an active thread about the problems with IDL on Debian etch
going on at the "competing" IDL discussion group, e.g.
http://www.ittvis.com/forum/message.asp?fmid=2267

So far, there are some workarounds listed, but there doesn't seem to
be a solution that consistently works.

--Wayne
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53474 is a reply to message #53473] Wed, 11 April 2007 06:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bk1 is currently offline  bk1
Messages: 7
Registered: February 2007
Junior Member
> Is it TV which is broken or just graphics in general? Try the command
> "window" and see if that crashes.

The "window" and "plot" commands work fine. But "iplot" crashes too.
Maybe it is a problem in the graphics libraries.

I have tested IDL 6.2 on another linux box (Debian sarge) without any
crashes so far.

Thanks,
Bernd
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53475 is a reply to message #53474] Wed, 11 April 2007 05:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Allan Whiteford is currently offline  Allan Whiteford
Messages: 117
Registered: June 2006
Senior Member
bk1@kaifler.net wrote:
> I am using IDL 6.2 on a linux box (Debian etch). Everything workes
> fine except TV and related procedures. When executing
>
> D = BYTSCL(DIST(256)) & TV, D
>
> the IDL Development Enviroment crashes without warning.
> Has anyone experienced the same problem?
>

IDL 6.2 on a FC4 (Stentz) box works fine with the above commands.

** Structure !VERSION, 8 tags, length=76, data length=76:
ARCH STRING 'x86'
OS STRING 'linux'
OS_FAMILY STRING 'unix'
OS_NAME STRING 'linux'
RELEASE STRING '6.2'
BUILD_DATE STRING 'Jun 20 2005'
MEMORY_BITS INT 32
FILE_OFFSET_BITS
INT 64

Linux hostname.domain 2.6.11-1.1369_FC4smp #1 SMP
Thu Jun 2 23:08:39 EDT 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Is it TV which is broken or just graphics in general? Try the command
"window" and see if that crashes.

Thanks,

Allan
Re: IDL crash without warning [message #53529 is a reply to message #53465] Mon, 16 April 2007 08:42 Go to previous message
GNWIII is currently offline  GNWIII
Messages: 1
Registered: April 2007
Junior Member
On Apr 11, 3:28 pm, b...@kaifler.net wrote:

>> I have the same problem.... I am using Fedora Core 6. Indeed, it was
>> working well until this morning (or a bit earlier, I might not have
>> noticed!), when I did an update of Xorg-X11....
>
>> Build Date: 08 April 2007
>> Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.1.1-47.8.fc6
>
>> Before the update, it was:
>> Build Date: 28 February 2007
>> Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.1.1-47.7.fc6
>
> It seems to be indeed a problem with the x-server. IDL is doing fine
> on a Debian box (sarge) which was not updated the last 3 weeks. As
> soon as I have time, I will revert to the old version of xorg-x11-
> server.

Just to be clear -- the changes to libX11 that expose this bug were
simple sanity tests on arguments. A number of programs broke
because they were mistakenly using "insane" arguments, so in all
likelihood the real problem is in idl. Not everyone will be
comfortable removing a security patch. GDL may be useful to
people who don't want to reverse the updates.

--
George N. White III
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