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| Re: Programmatic size adjustment of widgets under Windows vs. UNIX (was "Natural size of explicitly-sized widget") [message #55623 is a reply to message #55591] |
Wed, 29 August 2007 16:44  |
Jean-Paul Davis
Messages: 17
Registered: March 1998
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On Aug 29, 4:23 pm, David Fanning <n...@dfanning.com> wrote:
> At the time I started down this path my attitude was
> "to hell with the UNIX people, they're used to things
> looking like crap anyway." I was just trying to get something
> to work on the two flavors of Windows I was running.
> I hope your assumption about Motif is correct, because
> God help you if it isn't. I do have a pretty good idea
> where I am going to put my money, however. (Anybody
> want to help us track down the Macintosh numbers, by
> the way?)
> By the way, I am EXTREMELY impressed with all the hard
> work here. I'm just amazed that someone would stick with
In fact, I was all ready to start the bureaucratic side of the process
required to distribute my application with the look-nice resizing
turned off for UNIX (and a mention in the user's manual that the GUI's
wouldn't look as nice in UNIX due to missing capabilities in IDL),
when I realized there SHOULD be a way to make it work in UNIX too, and
that, even if it sometimes seems random, there must be a logical
explanation for all observed behaviors (even if the behavior is
illogical). Due to my sometimes-unhealthy level of perfectionism, I
soon found myself spending two whole days figuring it out, and now I
can remove the lie about missing capabilities from my user's manual.
I think it will work on other UNIX systems... my main reason for doing
it is that a significant number of the potential users work on Macs.
I will post back if I find it does not behave correctly on Mac.
It would be nice if someone could compile a complete list of
behaviors, or write a detailed "how-to" on making your GUI's look
nice. Unfortunately (or perhaps fortunately), that's not what I get
paid to do.
Jean-Paul Davis
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| Re: Programmatic size adjustment of widgets under Windows vs. UNIX (was "Natural size of explicitly-sized widget") [message #55625 is a reply to message #55624] |
Wed, 29 August 2007 15:23 |
David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
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Jean-Paul Davis writes:
> (Despite calling explicit sizing a bad decision, David
> even admits to doing something like this in <a href="http://
> groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.idl-pvwave/browse_frm/thre ad/
> ae01511f8ae51f49">this post.</a>)
You haven't been reading long. I've never claimed I don't
make bad decisions. On the contrary. That's pretty much
how you become an expert in something, it seems to me. :-)
But, uh, I offer in defense of my opinion that it's
a bad decision to start down this road the rest of your
post. My first thought was "Oh my God, it's even worse
than I remember!"
At the time I started down this path my attitude was
"to hell with the UNIX people, they're used to things
looking like crap anyway." I was just trying to get something
to work on the two flavors of Windows I was running.
I hope your assumption about Motif is correct, because
God help you if it isn't. I do have a pretty good idea
where I am going to put my money, however. (Anybody
want to help us track down the Macintosh numbers, by
the way?)
I'm going to hang onto this post, because from time
to time I have a need to hit my head against a wall
for some reason. This will be a good place to start. :-)
Cheers,
By the way, I am EXTREMELY impressed with all the hard
work here. I'm just amazed that someone would stick with
it after all you have learned. At the very least, you
will be up for some kind of big award at the next IEPA
convention this Fall. :-)
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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