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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57100]

Mon, 03 December 2007 11:53

David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001

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Paul van Delst writes:

>> You know what? I enjoyed life more when there were
>> FEWER possibilities. :-(
>
> Ah, the paradox of choice.

Ah, well, this from a guy who has pretty much eaten the
same thing for breakfast for the past 40 years. I wouldn't
put much stock in it. :-)

Cheers,

David
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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57101 is a reply to message #57100]

Mon, 03 December 2007 11:18

Paul Van Delst[1]
Messages: 1157
Registered: April 2002

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David Fanning wrote:
> David Fanning writes:
>
>> Oh, my gosh, this thing is a mess. Is there a
>> reset button somewhere? Please!
>
> You know what? I enjoyed life more when there were
> FEWER possibilities. :-(

Ah, the paradox of choice. I'm *so* glad I don't use IDEs[*].

I just requested an update to IDL v7.0 from my sysadmins. After reading this thread, I'm
not sure that was such a good idea..... :o)

cheers,

paulv

[*] Not because I think they're bad in and of themselves, just that I've yet to see a
useful one (apart from a regular old command line coupled with a good editor, of course).

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57104 is a reply to message #57101]

Mon, 03 December 2007 09:57

David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001

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Vince Hradil writes:

> Window->Reset Perspective (I've used it several times myself 8^)

Oh, hooray! I'm going to write that down!

Cheers,

David

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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57105 is a reply to message #57104]

Mon, 03 December 2007 09:51

Vince Hradil
Messages: 574
Registered: December 1999

Senior Member

On Dec 3, 11:18 am, David Fanning <n...@dfanning.com> wrote:
> David Fanning writes:
>> I don't think there is any chance I'm going to get
>> any work done this morning. :-(
>
> Oh, my gosh, this thing is a mess. Is there a
> reset button somewhere? Please!
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming:http://www.dfanning.com/
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

Window->Reset Perspective (I've used it several times myself 8^)

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57107 is a reply to message #57105]

Mon, 03 December 2007 09:23

David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001

Senior Member

David Fanning writes:

> Oh, my gosh, this thing is a mess. Is there a
> reset button somewhere? Please!

You know what? I enjoyed life more when there were
FEWER possibilities. :-(

Cheers,

David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57108 is a reply to message #57107]

Mon, 03 December 2007 09:18

David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001

Senior Member

David Fanning writes:

> I don't think there is any chance I'm going to get
> any work done this morning. :-(

Oh, my gosh, this thing is a mess. Is there a
reset button somewhere? Please!

Cheers,

David

--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57109 is a reply to message #57108]

Mon, 03 December 2007 09:15

David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001

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David Fanning writes:

> Well, I did something and it popped back in. But then
> I took it out again to see what THAT was all about,
> and I can't get it in again. What in the world did I
> do the first time?

Oh, gosh. I dropped the damn thing somewhere and it
disappeared. So I went under the Window menu to find
it again, and it has taken over the whole left side of
my display!

I don't think there is any chance I'm going to get
any work done this morning. :-(

Cheers,

DAvid
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57110 is a reply to message #57109]

Mon, 03 December 2007 09:10

David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001

Senior Member

David Fanning writes:

> Yikes! I've torn the Command Line off, but now I can't
> put it back! I'm afraid this interface tends to remember
> your mistakes. :-(

Well, I did something and it popped back in. But then
I took it out again to see what THAT was all about,
and I can't get it in again. What in the world did I
do the first time?

Cheers,

David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57112 is a reply to message #57110]

Mon, 03 December 2007 09:08

David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001

Senior Member

Doug Edmundson writes:

> Note that if you drag on a view's tab you can
> rearrange it relative to the other views or even tear it off into its
> own, unattached window.

Yikes! I've torn the Command Line off, but now I can't
put it back! I'm afraid this interface tends to remember
your mistakes. :-(

Cheers,

David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57113 is a reply to message #57112]

Mon, 03 December 2007 08:46

Doug Edmundson
Messages: 58
Registered: November 2005

Member

R.G. Stockwell wrote:
> <markb77@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2811c805-e793-4527-a1ef-f77ce5a7487f@b15g2000hsa.google groups.com...
>> Does anyone know where the Run->Stop and Run->Reset buttons have
>> gone? These seem to be pretty essential !?
>
> I guess you stay in debug mode if you want to do that.
>
> Cheers,
> bob
>

Bob,

Yes, I think a lot of users will want to always be in debug mode. The
"terminate" button (red square) lives in the debug view. We thought
about having just one perspective, but the "IDL" one is nice to have
because it's cleaner. It also, uhh, forces users to think about
perspectives. ;-) That's a good thing!

We imagine that folks will be creating new, custom perspectives that
best suit how they work. Note that if you drag on a view's tab you can
rearrange it relative to the other views or even tear it off into its
own, unattached window.

Doug

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57124 is a reply to message #57113]

Sat, 01 December 2007 12:58

markb77
Messages: 217
Registered: July 2006

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On Dec 1, 3:45 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
> <mark...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:2811c805-e793-4527-a1ef-f77ce5a7487f@b15g2000hsa.google groups.com...
>
>> Does anyone know where the Run->Stop and Run->Reset buttons have
>> gone? These seem to be pretty essential !?
>
> I guess you stay in debug mode if you want to do that.
>
> Cheers,
> bob

Thanks.. I'm just starting to get the hang of this eclipse stuff...
It does seem pretty useful overall

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57125 is a reply to message #57124]

Sat, 01 December 2007 12:45

R.G.Stockwell
Messages: 163
Registered: October 2004

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<markb77@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:2811c805-e793-4527-a1ef-f77ce5a7487f@b15g2000hsa.google groups.com...
> Does anyone know where the Run->Stop and Run->Reset buttons have
> gone? These seem to be pretty essential !?

I guess you stay in debug mode if you want to do that.

Cheers,
bob

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57126 is a reply to message #57125]

Sat, 01 December 2007 12:18

markb77
Messages: 217
Registered: July 2006

Senior Member

Ok, so when my program crashes I click on "Debug" at the top right of
the screen, go to the run menu, select "Terminate", select "Terminate"
again, click on "IDL" at the top right of the screen, and then I'm
ready to run again?

That seems like a lengthy workaround.. is this the right way to
recompile and run again after crashing your code because of a mistyped
variable name?

On Dec 1, 3:10 pm, mark...@gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone know where the Run->Stop and Run->Reset buttons have
> gone? These seem to be pretty essential !?

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Re: IDL 7.0 questions [message #57315 is a reply to message #57110]

Wed, 05 December 2007 09:42

David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001

Senior Member

David Fanning writes:

> Well, I did something and it popped back in. But then
> I took it out again to see what THAT was all about,
> and I can't get it in again. What in the world did I
> do the first time?

I hate to pick at a scab, but I am *certain* there must
be an algorithm behind grabbing GUI elements and moving
them around. Does anyone have any idea what it is? Where
do I grab, and where should I drop to make things happen
in a sensible fashion? I apologize for not being able
to figure this out. But, on the other hand, I use the
TV so infrequently that I have to get my son in here
to set it up for me if I want to watch a movie, so
this kind of thing is not my forte. :-(

Cheers,

David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

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