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Re: question about paths/workspace [message #57227] Wed, 05 December 2007 17:02
R.G.Stockwell is currently offline  R.G.Stockwell
Messages: 163
Registered: October 2004
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"Vince Hradil" <hradilv@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:37b169a7-6dce-46e6-bea2-dfefb0d48ebc@a35g2000prf.google groups.com...
> On Dec 5, 5:19 pm, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Dec 5, 5:15 pm, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 5:07 pm, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> On Dec 5, 4:41 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> > "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>> > news:ad45793c-59f1-4ce3-af1b-1562b8811b23@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>>
>>>> > > On Dec 5, 2:02 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>>> > >> "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>>>> > >> news:5896e153-b4ef-4f90-882f-6848389bf05a@r60g2000hsc.google groups.com...
>>
>>>> > >> > On Dec 5, 12:16 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com>
>>>> > >> > wrote:
>>>> > >> >> I have my idl code on a networked raided backedup drive,
>>>> > >> >> but often take my laptop away from that network.
>>
>>>> > >> >> So I have my path setup to look for the network first (drive
>>>> > >> >> H say)
>>>> > >> >> then look on the laptop (drive C). It works pretty well.
>>
>>>> > >> >> If I put my 'workspace' on H, and am off the network,
>>>> > >> >> I get 'workspace cannot be found' errors and it forces
>>>> > >> >> me to create a new one.
>>
>>>> > >> >> Anyone have a good solution to using travelling workspaces?
>>>> > >> >> I haven't really looked into the problem much yet, maybe it's
>>>> > >> >> a stupid question with an obvious answer.
>>
>>>> > >> >> Cheers,
>>>> > >> >> bob
>>
>>>> > >> > Can you just create your workspace on the C-drive, but create
>>>> > >> > projects
>>>> > >> > from your remote (H) drive. The workspace won't copy the
>>>> > >> > files from
>>>> > >> > the H-drive, but just keep a reference to them.
>>
>>>> > >> Short answer, no. Not if I want to access my workspace
>>>> > >> from somewhere other than my laptop (which I often do).
>>>> > >> The C drive is only accessible from the laptop.
>>
>>>> > >> Cheers,
>>>> > >> bob
>>
>>>> > > How about just making workspaces everywhere that point to the
>>>> > > same
>>>> > > projects? Isn't a workspace just a group of projects?
>>
>>>> > We'll see how it goes. I am worried about pointing to a project
>>>> > that
>>>> > "isn't there", but I have not done that yet.
>>
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> > bob
>>
>>>> Well, I tried it. If the project "isn't there" I get an error that
>>>> the workspace is in use - pick another one. Oh, well that won't work
>>>> do all!
>>
>>> Wait a minute... It seem that the IDLDE process just didn't stop. I'm
>>> trying again. I'll let you know what happens.
>>
>>> It seems that the background process of "Analyzing code..." continues
>>> after I quit the IDLDE - I have a fairly large path, and it takes
>>> several minutes to "analyze", so during this testing I quit IDL before
>>> the background process was finished - That locks the IDLDE workspace.
>>> This is not acceptable. I think that 7.0.1 needs to have a "Analyzing
>>> code..." work-around. Oh for my command line and emacs...
>>
>> The process is still there, with about 1/2 Mb virtual memory used,
>> even though it seems the Analyzing code is done. I'm going to kill it
>> and disconnect the remote drive. And test the workspace again.
>
> OK - here's what happened. I had left one of the remote files open in
> the editor, then exited (then I had to kill the IDLDE process, but
> that's another issue). Then I disconnected the remote drive and re-
> started IDLDE. I got an error that the source code did not exist and
> the remote project was closed. When I tried to open the remote
> project, it eventually timed-out saying that the .project file could
> not be found. I exited IDLDE - this time it took about 90 seconds to
> to "Save the workspace" - the dialog just stayed on my screen. When
> the dialog went away, the process did too. Then I reconnected the
> remote drive and re-started IDLDE. The remote project was closed, but
> I was able to open it.
>
> So it looks like the "remote project" approach might work OK.
>
> I'm still not too happy about the "Analyzing code...", though 8^\

thanks for all the info!

Cheers,
bob
Re: question about paths/workspace [message #57248 is a reply to message #57227] Wed, 05 December 2007 15:30 Go to previous message
Vince Hradil is currently offline  Vince Hradil
Messages: 574
Registered: December 1999
Senior Member
On Dec 5, 5:19 pm, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 5, 5:15 pm, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Dec 5, 5:07 pm, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> On Dec 5, 4:41 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>
>>>> "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>> news:ad45793c-59f1-4ce3-af1b-1562b8811b23@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>
>>>> > On Dec 5, 2:02 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>>> >> "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>> >> news:5896e153-b4ef-4f90-882f-6848389bf05a@r60g2000hsc.google groups.com...
>
>>>> >> > On Dec 5, 12:16 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> I have my idl code on a networked raided backedup drive,
>>>> >> >> but often take my laptop away from that network.
>
>>>> >> >> So I have my path setup to look for the network first (drive H say)
>>>> >> >> then look on the laptop (drive C). It works pretty well.
>
>>>> >> >> If I put my 'workspace' on H, and am off the network,
>>>> >> >> I get 'workspace cannot be found' errors and it forces
>>>> >> >> me to create a new one.
>
>>>> >> >> Anyone have a good solution to using travelling workspaces?
>>>> >> >> I haven't really looked into the problem much yet, maybe it's
>>>> >> >> a stupid question with an obvious answer.
>
>>>> >> >> Cheers,
>>>> >> >> bob
>
>>>> >> > Can you just create your workspace on the C-drive, but create projects
>>>> >> > from your remote (H) drive. The workspace won't copy the files from
>>>> >> > the H-drive, but just keep a reference to them.
>
>>>> >> Short answer, no. Not if I want to access my workspace
>>>> >> from somewhere other than my laptop (which I often do).
>>>> >> The C drive is only accessible from the laptop.
>
>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>> >> bob
>
>>>> > How about just making workspaces everywhere that point to the same
>>>> > projects? Isn't a workspace just a group of projects?
>
>>>> We'll see how it goes. I am worried about pointing to a project that
>>>> "isn't there", but I have not done that yet.
>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> bob
>
>>> Well, I tried it. If the project "isn't there" I get an error that
>>> the workspace is in use - pick another one. Oh, well that won't work
>>> do all!
>
>> Wait a minute... It seem that the IDLDE process just didn't stop. I'm
>> trying again. I'll let you know what happens.
>
>> It seems that the background process of "Analyzing code..." continues
>> after I quit the IDLDE - I have a fairly large path, and it takes
>> several minutes to "analyze", so during this testing I quit IDL before
>> the background process was finished - That locks the IDLDE workspace.
>> This is not acceptable. I think that 7.0.1 needs to have a "Analyzing
>> code..." work-around. Oh for my command line and emacs...
>
> The process is still there, with about 1/2 Mb virtual memory used,
> even though it seems the Analyzing code is done. I'm going to kill it
> and disconnect the remote drive. And test the workspace again.

OK - here's what happened. I had left one of the remote files open in
the editor, then exited (then I had to kill the IDLDE process, but
that's another issue). Then I disconnected the remote drive and re-
started IDLDE. I got an error that the source code did not exist and
the remote project was closed. When I tried to open the remote
project, it eventually timed-out saying that the .project file could
not be found. I exited IDLDE - this time it took about 90 seconds to
to "Save the workspace" - the dialog just stayed on my screen. When
the dialog went away, the process did too. Then I reconnected the
remote drive and re-started IDLDE. The remote project was closed, but
I was able to open it.

So it looks like the "remote project" approach might work OK.

I'm still not too happy about the "Analyzing code...", though 8^\
Re: question about paths/workspace [message #57253 is a reply to message #57248] Wed, 05 December 2007 15:19 Go to previous message
Vince Hradil is currently offline  Vince Hradil
Messages: 574
Registered: December 1999
Senior Member
On Dec 5, 5:15 pm, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 5, 5:07 pm, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On Dec 5, 4:41 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>
>>> "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>> news:ad45793c-59f1-4ce3-af1b-1562b8811b23@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>
>>>> On Dec 5, 2:02 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>>> > "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>> > news:5896e153-b4ef-4f90-882f-6848389bf05a@r60g2000hsc.google groups.com...
>
>>>> > > On Dec 5, 12:16 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>>> > >> I have my idl code on a networked raided backedup drive,
>>>> > >> but often take my laptop away from that network.
>
>>>> > >> So I have my path setup to look for the network first (drive H say)
>>>> > >> then look on the laptop (drive C). It works pretty well.
>
>>>> > >> If I put my 'workspace' on H, and am off the network,
>>>> > >> I get 'workspace cannot be found' errors and it forces
>>>> > >> me to create a new one.
>
>>>> > >> Anyone have a good solution to using travelling workspaces?
>>>> > >> I haven't really looked into the problem much yet, maybe it's
>>>> > >> a stupid question with an obvious answer.
>
>>>> > >> Cheers,
>>>> > >> bob
>
>>>> > > Can you just create your workspace on the C-drive, but create projects
>>>> > > from your remote (H) drive. The workspace won't copy the files from
>>>> > > the H-drive, but just keep a reference to them.
>
>>>> > Short answer, no. Not if I want to access my workspace
>>>> > from somewhere other than my laptop (which I often do).
>>>> > The C drive is only accessible from the laptop.
>
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> > bob
>
>>>> How about just making workspaces everywhere that point to the same
>>>> projects? Isn't a workspace just a group of projects?
>
>>> We'll see how it goes. I am worried about pointing to a project that
>>> "isn't there", but I have not done that yet.
>
>>> Cheers,
>>> bob
>
>> Well, I tried it. If the project "isn't there" I get an error that
>> the workspace is in use - pick another one. Oh, well that won't work
>> do all!
>
> Wait a minute... It seem that the IDLDE process just didn't stop. I'm
> trying again. I'll let you know what happens.
>
> It seems that the background process of "Analyzing code..." continues
> after I quit the IDLDE - I have a fairly large path, and it takes
> several minutes to "analyze", so during this testing I quit IDL before
> the background process was finished - That locks the IDLDE workspace.
> This is not acceptable. I think that 7.0.1 needs to have a "Analyzing
> code..." work-around. Oh for my command line and emacs...

The process is still there, with about 1/2 Mb virtual memory used,
even though it seems the Analyzing code is done. I'm going to kill it
and disconnect the remote drive. And test the workspace again.
Re: question about paths/workspace [message #57257 is a reply to message #57253] Wed, 05 December 2007 15:15 Go to previous message
Vince Hradil is currently offline  Vince Hradil
Messages: 574
Registered: December 1999
Senior Member
On Dec 5, 5:07 pm, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 5, 4:41 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>> "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>> news:ad45793c-59f1-4ce3-af1b-1562b8811b23@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>
>>> On Dec 5, 2:02 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>>> "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>>> news:5896e153-b4ef-4f90-882f-6848389bf05a@r60g2000hsc.google groups.com...
>
>>>> > On Dec 5, 12:16 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>>> >> I have my idl code on a networked raided backedup drive,
>>>> >> but often take my laptop away from that network.
>
>>>> >> So I have my path setup to look for the network first (drive H say)
>>>> >> then look on the laptop (drive C). It works pretty well.
>
>>>> >> If I put my 'workspace' on H, and am off the network,
>>>> >> I get 'workspace cannot be found' errors and it forces
>>>> >> me to create a new one.
>
>>>> >> Anyone have a good solution to using travelling workspaces?
>>>> >> I haven't really looked into the problem much yet, maybe it's
>>>> >> a stupid question with an obvious answer.
>
>>>> >> Cheers,
>>>> >> bob
>
>>>> > Can you just create your workspace on the C-drive, but create projects
>>>> > from your remote (H) drive. The workspace won't copy the files from
>>>> > the H-drive, but just keep a reference to them.
>
>>>> Short answer, no. Not if I want to access my workspace
>>>> from somewhere other than my laptop (which I often do).
>>>> The C drive is only accessible from the laptop.
>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> bob
>
>>> How about just making workspaces everywhere that point to the same
>>> projects? Isn't a workspace just a group of projects?
>
>> We'll see how it goes. I am worried about pointing to a project that
>> "isn't there", but I have not done that yet.
>
>> Cheers,
>> bob
>
> Well, I tried it. If the project "isn't there" I get an error that
> the workspace is in use - pick another one. Oh, well that won't work
> do all!

Wait a minute... It seem that the IDLDE process just didn't stop. I'm
trying again. I'll let you know what happens.

It seems that the background process of "Analyzing code..." continues
after I quit the IDLDE - I have a fairly large path, and it takes
several minutes to "analyze", so during this testing I quit IDL before
the background process was finished - That locks the IDLDE workspace.
This is not acceptable. I think that 7.0.1 needs to have a "Analyzing
code..." work-around. Oh for my command line and emacs...
Re: question about paths/workspace [message #57261 is a reply to message #57257] Wed, 05 December 2007 15:07 Go to previous message
Vince Hradil is currently offline  Vince Hradil
Messages: 574
Registered: December 1999
Senior Member
On Dec 5, 4:41 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
> "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ad45793c-59f1-4ce3-af1b-1562b8811b23@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
>
>
>
>> On Dec 5, 2:02 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>> "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>>> news:5896e153-b4ef-4f90-882f-6848389bf05a@r60g2000hsc.google groups.com...
>
>>>> On Dec 5, 12:16 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>>> > I have my idl code on a networked raided backedup drive,
>>>> > but often take my laptop away from that network.
>
>>>> > So I have my path setup to look for the network first (drive H say)
>>>> > then look on the laptop (drive C). It works pretty well.
>
>>>> > If I put my 'workspace' on H, and am off the network,
>>>> > I get 'workspace cannot be found' errors and it forces
>>>> > me to create a new one.
>
>>>> > Anyone have a good solution to using travelling workspaces?
>>>> > I haven't really looked into the problem much yet, maybe it's
>>>> > a stupid question with an obvious answer.
>
>>>> > Cheers,
>>>> > bob
>
>>>> Can you just create your workspace on the C-drive, but create projects
>>>> from your remote (H) drive. The workspace won't copy the files from
>>>> the H-drive, but just keep a reference to them.
>
>>> Short answer, no. Not if I want to access my workspace
>>> from somewhere other than my laptop (which I often do).
>>> The C drive is only accessible from the laptop.
>
>>> Cheers,
>>> bob
>
>> How about just making workspaces everywhere that point to the same
>> projects? Isn't a workspace just a group of projects?
>
> We'll see how it goes. I am worried about pointing to a project that
> "isn't there", but I have not done that yet.
>
> Cheers,
> bob

Well, I tried it. If the project "isn't there" I get an error that
the workspace is in use - pick another one. Oh, well that won't work
do all!
Re: question about paths/workspace [message #57270 is a reply to message #57261] Wed, 05 December 2007 14:41 Go to previous message
R.G.Stockwell is currently offline  R.G.Stockwell
Messages: 163
Registered: October 2004
Senior Member
"Vince Hradil" <hradilv@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ad45793c-59f1-4ce3-af1b-1562b8811b23@v4g2000hsf.googleg roups.com...
> On Dec 5, 2:02 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>> "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5896e153-b4ef-4f90-882f-6848389bf05a@r60g2000hsc.google groups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Dec 5, 12:16 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>>> I have my idl code on a networked raided backedup drive,
>>>> but often take my laptop away from that network.
>>
>>>> So I have my path setup to look for the network first (drive H say)
>>>> then look on the laptop (drive C). It works pretty well.
>>
>>>> If I put my 'workspace' on H, and am off the network,
>>>> I get 'workspace cannot be found' errors and it forces
>>>> me to create a new one.
>>
>>>> Anyone have a good solution to using travelling workspaces?
>>>> I haven't really looked into the problem much yet, maybe it's
>>>> a stupid question with an obvious answer.
>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> bob
>>
>>> Can you just create your workspace on the C-drive, but create projects
>>> from your remote (H) drive. The workspace won't copy the files from
>>> the H-drive, but just keep a reference to them.
>>
>> Short answer, no. Not if I want to access my workspace
>> from somewhere other than my laptop (which I often do).
>> The C drive is only accessible from the laptop.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> bob
>
> How about just making workspaces everywhere that point to the same
> projects? Isn't a workspace just a group of projects?

We'll see how it goes. I am worried about pointing to a project that
"isn't there", but I have not done that yet.

Cheers,
bob
Re: question about paths/workspace [message #57274 is a reply to message #57270] Wed, 05 December 2007 13:38 Go to previous message
Vince Hradil is currently offline  Vince Hradil
Messages: 574
Registered: December 1999
Senior Member
On Dec 5, 2:02 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
> "Vince Hradil" <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5896e153-b4ef-4f90-882f-6848389bf05a@r60g2000hsc.google groups.com...
>
>
>
>> On Dec 5, 12:16 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>>> I have my idl code on a networked raided backedup drive,
>>> but often take my laptop away from that network.
>
>>> So I have my path setup to look for the network first (drive H say)
>>> then look on the laptop (drive C). It works pretty well.
>
>>> If I put my 'workspace' on H, and am off the network,
>>> I get 'workspace cannot be found' errors and it forces
>>> me to create a new one.
>
>>> Anyone have a good solution to using travelling workspaces?
>>> I haven't really looked into the problem much yet, maybe it's
>>> a stupid question with an obvious answer.
>
>>> Cheers,
>>> bob
>
>> Can you just create your workspace on the C-drive, but create projects
>> from your remote (H) drive. The workspace won't copy the files from
>> the H-drive, but just keep a reference to them.
>
> Short answer, no. Not if I want to access my workspace
> from somewhere other than my laptop (which I often do).
> The C drive is only accessible from the laptop.
>
> Cheers,
> bob

How about just making workspaces everywhere that point to the same
projects? Isn't a workspace just a group of projects?
Re: question about paths/workspace [message #57281 is a reply to message #57274] Wed, 05 December 2007 12:02 Go to previous message
R.G.Stockwell is currently offline  R.G.Stockwell
Messages: 163
Registered: October 2004
Senior Member
"Vince Hradil" <hradilv@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5896e153-b4ef-4f90-882f-6848389bf05a@r60g2000hsc.google groups.com...
> On Dec 5, 12:16 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
>> I have my idl code on a networked raided backedup drive,
>> but often take my laptop away from that network.
>>
>> So I have my path setup to look for the network first (drive H say)
>> then look on the laptop (drive C). It works pretty well.
>>
>> If I put my 'workspace' on H, and am off the network,
>> I get 'workspace cannot be found' errors and it forces
>> me to create a new one.
>>
>> Anyone have a good solution to using travelling workspaces?
>> I haven't really looked into the problem much yet, maybe it's
>> a stupid question with an obvious answer.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> bob
>
> Can you just create your workspace on the C-drive, but create projects
> from your remote (H) drive. The workspace won't copy the files from
> the H-drive, but just keep a reference to them.

Short answer, no. Not if I want to access my workspace
from somewhere other than my laptop (which I often do).
The C drive is only accessible from the laptop.

Cheers,
bob
Re: question about paths/workspace [message #57297 is a reply to message #57281] Wed, 05 December 2007 11:12 Go to previous message
Vince Hradil is currently offline  Vince Hradil
Messages: 574
Registered: December 1999
Senior Member
On Dec 5, 12:16 pm, "R.G. Stockwell" <noem...@please.com> wrote:
> I have my idl code on a networked raided backedup drive,
> but often take my laptop away from that network.
>
> So I have my path setup to look for the network first (drive H say)
> then look on the laptop (drive C). It works pretty well.
>
> If I put my 'workspace' on H, and am off the network,
> I get 'workspace cannot be found' errors and it forces
> me to create a new one.
>
> Anyone have a good solution to using travelling workspaces?
> I haven't really looked into the problem much yet, maybe it's
> a stupid question with an obvious answer.
>
> Cheers,
> bob

Can you just create your workspace on the C-drive, but create projects
from your remote (H) drive. The workspace won't copy the files from
the H-drive, but just keep a reference to them.
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