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Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57627] Thu, 20 December 2007 06:46 Go to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Haje Korth writes:

> ..or when for some reason you are not allowed to hook up a machine to the
> network.
>
> ..or when you are on travel in a hotel that charges excessive internet
> access charges.

The last time I was without Internet access I was visiting my
father in a small town in Pennsylvania. But I'd take my
computer and walk over to Main Street, just a few blocks
away, and I could access 5-6 different networks, all without
a password. (Small town America, I guess.) Gave me exercise
AND an Internet. Best of both worlds. :-)

Cheers,

David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57628 is a reply to message #57627] Thu, 20 December 2007 06:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
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"Vince Hradil" <hradilv@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e4cb8818-9e28-47ff-9723-7c3bc1d3edb1@e23g2000prf.google groups.com...
> On Dec 20, 7:24 am, "Haje Korth" <haje.ko...@nospam.jhuapl.edu> wrote:
>> Bill,
>> wow, this was quick to fix! I was wondering whether the update feature is
>> the only way to get the update installed? I prefer an alternative way to
>> download a file, which can be used when access to the net is not
>> available.
>> Will this be possible in the future?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Haje
>>
>> <bok...@ittvis.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:29a4dc35-f5b1-4683-9b97-27d96cf913f4@e6g2000prf.googleg roups.com... >
>> An update to the IDL 7.0 Workbench is now available on the ITT VIS
>>> workbench update site. The IDL 7.0.1 update provides a patch to the
>>> IDL Workbench that significantly speeds up the IDL code parser. When
>>> the IDL Workbench starts, it needs to parse all PRO code on your IDL
>>> path, to enable syntax highlighting, the outline view, content assist,
>>> hover help, and open declaration. This parsing happens in a background
>>> thread, but if you have a single CPU, or you have a large number of
>>> files on your path, or have files out on a network drive, then you
>>> might have experienced some slowdown in the IDL user interface. With
>>> the update to IDL 7.0.1, the parsing speed should be about 4 times
>>> faster, with even greater speed if your files are on a network drive.
>>> In addition, the status bar now provides a percent complete for the
>>> Analyzing Code job, which gives you a visual indication of how quickly
>>> it will finish.
>>
>>> To install the update, do the following steps:
>>> 1. Log in as an administrator (or root), or ensure that you have write
>>> permission to the IDL7.0 install directory on your machine.
>>> 2. Open up the IDL Workbench application, and go under "Help->Software
>>> Updates->Find and Install..." menu item.
>>> 3. Once the Wizard appears (it may take a few moments), select "Search
>>> for updates of the currently installed features", then click "Finish".
>>> If a dialog appears about "Update Site Mirrors", be sure to select
>>> "Automatically select mirrors" and then "OK".
>>> 4. After a few minutes (it needs to search both the ITT VIS and
>>> Eclipse web sites), you should see a list of available updates. Be
>>> sure to *select* the "ITT VIS->Workbench Updates->IDL Development
>>> Tools 7.0.1". Be sure to *deselect* all Eclipse Project Updates.
>>> 5. Click "Next", accept the license, then "Next", then "Finish".
>>> 6. When the Feature Verification dialog appears, just click "Install
>>> All".
>>> 7. Restart the IDL Workbench.
>>
>>> Verify the installation:
>>> To verify that the install was successful, when the IDL Workbench
>>> starts, the "Analyzing Code" job in the status bar should now report a
>>> percent complete. As another test, bring up the "About IDL Workbench"
>>> dialog. Note that the IDL version is still 7.0.0. However, if you then
>>> click on "Feature Details", you should see that the IDL Workbench
>>> feature is now version 7.0.1.
>>
>>> Bill Okubo
>>> IDL Product Manager
>
> Isn't there an option to download a zip file and install later - I
> don't have IDL in front of me right now... Then you can select the
> zip file to "install from local" later, or on other computers...


I was not able to find such feature.
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57629 is a reply to message #57628] Thu, 20 December 2007 06:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
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..or when for some reason you are not allowed to hook up a machine to the
network.

..or when you are on travel in a hotel that charges excessive internet
access charges.


"David Fanning" <news@dfanning.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.21d420e211360ded98a1c5@news.frii.com...
> Haje Korth writes:
>
>> wow, this was quick to fix! I was wondering whether the update feature is
>> the only way to get the update installed? I prefer an alternative way to
>> download a file, which can be used when access to the net is not
>> available.
>> Will this be possible in the future?
>
> I'm beginning to understand why people send all their
> programming tasks to India. Who needs the hassle!?
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> P.S. The only time the net's not available around here
> is for the morning crapper, and I'd just as soon leave it
> that way. :-)
>
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57630 is a reply to message #57629] Thu, 20 December 2007 06:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vince Hradil is currently offline  Vince Hradil
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On Dec 20, 7:24 am, "Haje Korth" <haje.ko...@nospam.jhuapl.edu> wrote:
> Bill,
> wow, this was quick to fix! I was wondering whether the update feature is
> the only way to get the update installed? I prefer an alternative way to
> download a file, which can be used when access to the net is not available.
> Will this be possible in the future?
>
> Thanks,
> Haje
>
> <bok...@ittvis.com> wrote in message
>
> news:29a4dc35-f5b1-4683-9b97-27d96cf913f4@e6g2000prf.googleg roups.com... > An update to the IDL 7.0 Workbench is now available on the ITT VIS
>> workbench update site. The IDL 7.0.1 update provides a patch to the
>> IDL Workbench that significantly speeds up the IDL code parser. When
>> the IDL Workbench starts, it needs to parse all PRO code on your IDL
>> path, to enable syntax highlighting, the outline view, content assist,
>> hover help, and open declaration. This parsing happens in a background
>> thread, but if you have a single CPU, or you have a large number of
>> files on your path, or have files out on a network drive, then you
>> might have experienced some slowdown in the IDL user interface. With
>> the update to IDL 7.0.1, the parsing speed should be about 4 times
>> faster, with even greater speed if your files are on a network drive.
>> In addition, the status bar now provides a percent complete for the
>> Analyzing Code job, which gives you a visual indication of how quickly
>> it will finish.
>
>> To install the update, do the following steps:
>> 1. Log in as an administrator (or root), or ensure that you have write
>> permission to the IDL7.0 install directory on your machine.
>> 2. Open up the IDL Workbench application, and go under "Help->Software
>> Updates->Find and Install..." menu item.
>> 3. Once the Wizard appears (it may take a few moments), select "Search
>> for updates of the currently installed features", then click "Finish".
>> If a dialog appears about "Update Site Mirrors", be sure to select
>> "Automatically select mirrors" and then "OK".
>> 4. After a few minutes (it needs to search both the ITT VIS and
>> Eclipse web sites), you should see a list of available updates. Be
>> sure to *select* the "ITT VIS->Workbench Updates->IDL Development
>> Tools 7.0.1". Be sure to *deselect* all Eclipse Project Updates.
>> 5. Click "Next", accept the license, then "Next", then "Finish".
>> 6. When the Feature Verification dialog appears, just click "Install
>> All".
>> 7. Restart the IDL Workbench.
>
>> Verify the installation:
>> To verify that the install was successful, when the IDL Workbench
>> starts, the "Analyzing Code" job in the status bar should now report a
>> percent complete. As another test, bring up the "About IDL Workbench"
>> dialog. Note that the IDL version is still 7.0.0. However, if you then
>> click on "Feature Details", you should see that the IDL Workbench
>> feature is now version 7.0.1.
>
>> Bill Okubo
>> IDL Product Manager

Isn't there an option to download a zip file and install later - I
don't have IDL in front of me right now... Then you can select the
zip file to "install from local" later, or on other computers...
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57631 is a reply to message #57630] Thu, 20 December 2007 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
Senior Member
Haje Korth writes:

> wow, this was quick to fix! I was wondering whether the update feature is
> the only way to get the update installed? I prefer an alternative way to
> download a file, which can be used when access to the net is not available.
> Will this be possible in the future?

I'm beginning to understand why people send all their
programming tasks to India. Who needs the hassle!?

Cheers,

David

P.S. The only time the net's not available around here
is for the morning crapper, and I'd just as soon leave it
that way. :-)

--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57633 is a reply to message #57631] Thu, 20 December 2007 05:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Haje Korth is currently offline  Haje Korth
Messages: 651
Registered: May 1997
Senior Member
Bill,
wow, this was quick to fix! I was wondering whether the update feature is
the only way to get the update installed? I prefer an alternative way to
download a file, which can be used when access to the net is not available.
Will this be possible in the future?

Thanks,
Haje


<bokubo@ittvis.com> wrote in message
news:29a4dc35-f5b1-4683-9b97-27d96cf913f4@e6g2000prf.googleg roups.com...
> An update to the IDL 7.0 Workbench is now available on the ITT VIS
> workbench update site. The IDL 7.0.1 update provides a patch to the
> IDL Workbench that significantly speeds up the IDL code parser. When
> the IDL Workbench starts, it needs to parse all PRO code on your IDL
> path, to enable syntax highlighting, the outline view, content assist,
> hover help, and open declaration. This parsing happens in a background
> thread, but if you have a single CPU, or you have a large number of
> files on your path, or have files out on a network drive, then you
> might have experienced some slowdown in the IDL user interface. With
> the update to IDL 7.0.1, the parsing speed should be about 4 times
> faster, with even greater speed if your files are on a network drive.
> In addition, the status bar now provides a percent complete for the
> Analyzing Code job, which gives you a visual indication of how quickly
> it will finish.
>
> To install the update, do the following steps:
> 1. Log in as an administrator (or root), or ensure that you have write
> permission to the IDL7.0 install directory on your machine.
> 2. Open up the IDL Workbench application, and go under "Help->Software
> Updates->Find and Install..." menu item.
> 3. Once the Wizard appears (it may take a few moments), select "Search
> for updates of the currently installed features", then click "Finish".
> If a dialog appears about "Update Site Mirrors", be sure to select
> "Automatically select mirrors" and then "OK".
> 4. After a few minutes (it needs to search both the ITT VIS and
> Eclipse web sites), you should see a list of available updates. Be
> sure to *select* the "ITT VIS->Workbench Updates->IDL Development
> Tools 7.0.1". Be sure to *deselect* all Eclipse Project Updates.
> 5. Click "Next", accept the license, then "Next", then "Finish".
> 6. When the Feature Verification dialog appears, just click "Install
> All".
> 7. Restart the IDL Workbench.
>
> Verify the installation:
> To verify that the install was successful, when the IDL Workbench
> starts, the "Analyzing Code" job in the status bar should now report a
> percent complete. As another test, bring up the "About IDL Workbench"
> dialog. Note that the IDL version is still 7.0.0. However, if you then
> click on "Feature Details", you should see that the IDL Workbench
> feature is now version 7.0.1.
>
> Bill Okubo
> IDL Product Manager
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57636 is a reply to message #57633] Thu, 20 December 2007 04:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Spon is currently offline  Spon
Messages: 178
Registered: September 2007
Senior Member
On Dec 19, 7:25 pm, David Fanning <n...@dfanning.com> wrote:
> Vince Hradil writes:
>> Ooops - still a question. Now Analyzing Code goes to (100%) - then
>> continues... The Progress view shows Analyzing Code: [count down from
>> about 1300]
>
> Yeah, I noticed my counter hits 100% a little early in the
> process, but I just assumed that was a marketing technique.
> Do you think it is a bug?
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming:http://www.dfanning.com/
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")

Strange - when I run it, it flies up through the percentages, and
practically skips from 97% to being complete and disappearing off into
the sunset. I'm one of the lucky ones, obviously! :-)

Chris
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57655 is a reply to message #57636] Wed, 19 December 2007 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Vince Hradil writes:

> Ooops - still a question. Now Analyzing Code goes to (100%) - then
> continues... The Progress view shows Analyzing Code: [count down from
> about 1300]

Yeah, I noticed my counter hits 100% a little early in the
process, but I just assumed that was a marketing technique.
Do you think it is a bug?

Cheers,

David

--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57657 is a reply to message #57655] Wed, 19 December 2007 11:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vince Hradil is currently offline  Vince Hradil
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On Dec 19, 1:19 pm, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 19, 12:56 pm, b_...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks Bill, this *much* faster now on my system which has a large
>> networked source tree. The 'analyzing code' process now completes in
>> about a minute, compared to possibly hours before. The network
>> bandwidth useage is significantly higher during the analyzing, but the
>> duration is much shorter.
>
>> Brad
>
> I agree - Thanks!

Ooops - still a question. Now Analyzing Code goes to (100%) - then
continues... The Progress view shows Analyzing Code: [count down from
about 1300]
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57658 is a reply to message #57657] Wed, 19 December 2007 11:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Vince Hradil is currently offline  Vince Hradil
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On Dec 19, 12:56 pm, b_...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Thanks Bill, this *much* faster now on my system which has a large
> networked source tree. The 'analyzing code' process now completes in
> about a minute, compared to possibly hours before. The network
> bandwidth useage is significantly higher during the analyzing, but the
> duration is much shorter.
>
> Brad

I agree - Thanks!
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57661 is a reply to message #57658] Wed, 19 December 2007 10:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
b_gom is currently offline  b_gom
Messages: 105
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Thanks Bill, this *much* faster now on my system which has a large
networked source tree. The 'analyzing code' process now completes in
about a minute, compared to possibly hours before. The network
bandwidth useage is significantly higher during the analyzing, but the
duration is much shorter.

Brad
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57664 is a reply to message #57661] Wed, 19 December 2007 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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David Fanning writes:

> And MUCH faster than before, too.

Whoops! I forgot to say thanks. I really appreciate the
ITTVIS folks willingness to get on here and help us out
with this learning curve. It is extremely helpful.

Cheers,

David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57665 is a reply to message #57664] Wed, 19 December 2007 10:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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bokubo@ittvis.com writes:

> An update to the IDL 7.0 Workbench is now available on the ITT VIS
> workbench update site.

Well, that was pretty darn painless! I like that way
of updating. :-)

And MUCH faster than before, too.

Cheers,

David

--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57745 is a reply to message #57628] Thu, 20 December 2007 14:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bokubo is currently offline  bokubo
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On Dec 20, 7:39 am, "Haje Korth" <haje.ko...@nospam.jhuapl.edu> wrote:
>
>> Isn't there an option to download a zip file and install later - I
>> don't have IDL in front of me right now... Then you can select the
>> zip file to "install from local" later, or on other computers...
>
> I was not able to find such feature.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

We want you to use the IDL Workbench update mechanism so we have not
made the update available as a download file on our website. That
said, if you have an extreme case where you absolutely do not have
access to the internet and cannot use the update mechanism then please
contact our Technical Support.

Thank you,

Bill Okubo
IDL Product Manager
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57747 is a reply to message #57627] Thu, 20 December 2007 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Marshall Perrin is currently offline  Marshall Perrin
Messages: 44
Registered: December 2005
Member
David Fanning <news@dfanning.com> wrote:
> Haje Korth writes:
>
>> ..or when for some reason you are not allowed to hook up a machine to the
>> network.
>>
>> ..or when you are on travel in a hotel that charges excessive internet
>> access charges.
>
> The last time I was without Internet access I was visiting my
> father in a small town in Pennsylvania. But I'd take my
> computer and walk over to Main Street, just a few blocks
> away, and I could access 5-6 different networks, all without
> a password. (Small town America, I guess.) Gave me exercise
> AND an Internet. Best of both worlds. :-)

Clearly you haven't yet experienced the joys of government labs with
overzealous computer security officers. :-/ That's more like the worst
of both worlds: you end up stuck in some ugly concrete office building from
the 1970s, and without any network connectivity to distract you!

- Marshall
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57763 is a reply to message #57631] Thu, 20 December 2007 12:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Greg Hennessy is currently offline  Greg Hennessy
Messages: 45
Registered: November 2005
Member
> I'm beginning to understand why people send all their
> programming tasks to India. Who needs the hassle!?

I feel your pain. It took me two days to debug a program where I had
if a < b
instead of
if a lt b
Re: IDL 7.0.1 update to improve Analyzing Code performance [message #57801 is a reply to message #57745] Thu, 27 December 2007 09:25 Go to previous message
Paul Van Delst[1] is currently offline  Paul Van Delst[1]
Messages: 1157
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bokubo@ittvis.com wrote:
> On Dec 20, 7:39 am, "Haje Korth" <haje.ko...@nospam.jhuapl.edu> wrote:
>>> Isn't there an option to download a zip file and install later - I
>>> don't have IDL in front of me right now... Then you can select the
>>> zip file to "install from local" later, or on other computers...
>> I was not able to find such feature.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> We want you to use the IDL Workbench update mechanism so we have not
> made the update available as a download file on our website. That
> said, if you have an extreme case where you absolutely do not have
> access to the internet and cannot use the update mechanism then please
> contact our Technical Support.

Does working for the guvmint classify as an extreme case? Where I work, if this sort of
update mechanism isn't already frowned upon -- if not disallowed (from local IT security
all the way to the DHS) -- it probably soon will be once they find out.

It would be nice to have an alternative set up so as to avoid midnight visits from various
and sundry federal law enforcement agencies that this sort of thing could engender.

"I just wanted to visualise my data, officer"

:o)

cheers,

paulv
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