| New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 07:55  |
Ryan.
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Hi All,
I've just installed IDL 7 and am in the process of taking the leap
into the unknown. I've had minimal experience using IDL Projects and
so now I'm trying to set one up to play around with it. I went to
File->New->IDL Project to set up a new one and when I select 'Create
the new project from an existing directory' and select the folder I
want. When I hit the 'Finish' Button and Error Dialog Box appears
without any message. Does anyone know what is wrong? One thing I
noticed is that if I type the folder name a message appears above
saying "The project location is not a valid path". It is a valid path
but it can't find it.
Thanks for your help,
Ryan.
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57947 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 13:14  |
David Fanning
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Paul van Delst writes:
> My theory -- for I too am trending towards old-codgerlyness -- is that
> our brains are evolutionarily hard-wired to deal with only a certain
> amount of complexity. In this day and age, the rate of increase of said
> complexity in relation to the amount of actual *useful* information is
> just too big a number for our minds to grok.
>
> Sort of like our own private 2nd law of thermodynamics as we become
> increasingly isolated systems.... um, er... I mean, people.
I hear you. What you are saying is I'm already full of
crap, I don't need any more. Is that right? ;-)
BTW, that Paradox of Choice book you recommended was
an interesting one. I found myself lecturing the Inta-Juice
manager the other day, explaining why if he had 10 choices
instead of the 200 or so he had on the menu he would get
more of the over-30 crowd into his store. Why the hell
would I want "wheat-germ" in a strawberry shake!?
Cheers,
David
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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57948 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 12:55 |
Ryan.
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On Jan 4, 3:44 pm, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Can you make a new IDL project - NOT from a current directory? That
> is, in your Workspace?
What do you mean by "NOT from a current directory"? I can't seem to
create a project whether new or already existing.
> I was going to suggest the uninstall/re-install strategy next - but
> who likes that hassle?
I don't think anyone likes that hassle but is sometimes inevitable.
Ryan.
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57949 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 12:44 |
Vince Hradil
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On Jan 4, 2:30 pm, "Ryan." <rchug...@brutus.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
>> You can then easily create a project in your workspace. Once you have
>> the project folder set up, just right-click the project and choose
>> the Import selection. You can import (copy) files from wherever you like
>> into the project folder.
>
>> Here is an article that might help explain some things for you:
>
>> http://www.dfanning.com/workbench/overlap.html
>
> Thanks for the info, it did help clarify things. I've set up a
> workspace folder on the local disk but I still have the same problem
> not being able to set up a new project. I really don't know why this
> is the case. If I can't figure it out I'm going to uninstall it an
> reinstall IDL 7. If this problem persists, should I contact the
> people at ITTVIS directly?
>
> Ryan.
Can you make a new IDL project - NOT from a current directory? That
is, in your Workspace?
I was going to suggest the uninstall/re-install strategy next - but
who likes that hassle?
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57950 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 12:35 |
Paul Van Delst[1]
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David Fanning wrote:
> Paul van Delst wrote:
>
>
>> But, the provisional misstatement should be corrected -- as you did
>> (all guns blazing!
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> I know. What's that about!?
>
> I'm getting more and curmudgeonly in my old age. Irritated
> the hell out of me though. :-)
My theory -- for I too am trending towards old-codgerlyness -- is that our brains are
evolutionarily hard-wired to deal with only a certain amount of complexity. In this day
and age, the rate of increase of said complexity in relation to the amount of actual
*useful* information is just too big a number for our minds to grok.
Sort of like our own private 2nd law of thermodynamics as we become increasingly isolated
systems.... um, er... I mean, people.
:o)
cheers,
paulv
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57951 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 12:30 |
Ryan.
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> You can then easily create a project in your workspace. Once you have
> the project folder set up, just right-click the project and choose
> the Import selection. You can import (copy) files from wherever you like
> into the project folder.
>
> Here is an article that might help explain some things for you:
>
> http://www.dfanning.com/workbench/overlap.html
Thanks for the info, it did help clarify things. I've set up a
workspace folder on the local disk but I still have the same problem
not being able to set up a new project. I really don't know why this
is the case. If I can't figure it out I'm going to uninstall it an
reinstall IDL 7. If this problem persists, should I contact the
people at ITTVIS directly?
Ryan.
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57952 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 11:34 |
David Fanning
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Ryan writes:
> Yes, I am using Windows. The path I used was a network path but I
> tried to save it to put a local folder (C drive) but I get the same
> problem. I've tried two different folders on my C drive. I looked
> for ".project" files in the first folder but there wasn't any in
> there.
>
> There shouldn't be a problem if my Workspace folder is the same as the
> project folder right? (It's not, but I'm just curious to prevent any
> future mishaps)
> Is it possible that my Workspace folder being a network drive is
> messing it up?
>
> I am completely new to using Eclipse.
The "workspace" is just a folder where (in theory) all of your IDL
projects are going to live. I say "in theory" because it is possible
to create projects that live outside your workspace folder, but
knowledge of those projects is going to remain in the workspace folder
(in the .metadata folder that gets created in your workspace. You
should put this, I think, on a local disk.
You can then easily create a project in your workspace. Once you have
the project folder set up, just right-click the project and choose
the Import selection. You can import (copy) files from wherever you like
into the project folder.
Here is an article that might help explain some things for you:
http://www.dfanning.com/workbench/overlap.html
Cheers,
David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57955 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 11:21 |
David Fanning
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Dave wrote:
> Sure IDL is stable, because I think IDL7.0 (not include Ellipse)
> make little advance comparing to IDL6.4. I think that IDL7.0 = IDL6.4
> + Ellipse. As a research pepole, we need more data analysis and
> visualization functions.
You are preaching to the choir here, but we are not the
target demographic for ITTVIS, obviously.
Cheers,
David
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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57956 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 11:21 |
Ryan.
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> Your workspace folder should NOT be the same as your project folder.
> In fact, I get an error when I try that. I set up a workspace folder
> on a network drive and created a new project from an existing folder
> on a network drive - sorry I'm not getting the same errors. Are there
> any "problems" in the Problems view?
I've set up a 'workspace' folder on the network drive and switched
workspaces. I then proceeded to open a new project (on a network and
local drive) and got the same error. For curiosity I tried selecting
the 'create a new project in the workspace' radio button and I got the
same error. I also tried setting up a workspace folder on the local
drive and the same thing.
What exactly is the 'Workspace' and why should it be a separate
folder?
Ryan.
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57957 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 11:15 |
Dave[4]
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guys:
Sure IDL is stable, because I think IDL7.0 (not include Ellipse)
make little advance comparing to IDL6.4. I think that IDL7.0 = IDL6.4
+ Ellipse. As a research pepole, we need more data analysis and
visualization functions.
dave
On Jan 5, 1:34 am, David Fanning <n...@dfanning.com> wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>> I find out that IDL 7 is not a stable version. I still use IDL 6.4 and
>> not understand why ITTVIS use Ellipse. It's better IF there are two
>> environments, one for ellipse, one for trandtional way. I hope ITTVIS
>> put his forcus on the data analysis and visualization techniques.
>
> This is total BS. You might not care for Eclipse (not Ellipse),
> but IDL is NOT unstable.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming:http://www.dfanning.com/
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57958 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 11:07 |
David Fanning
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Paul van Delst wrote:
> But, the provisional misstatement should be corrected -- as you did (all
> guns blazing!
I know. What's that about!?
I'm getting more and curmudgeonly in my old age. Irritated
the hell out of me though. :-)
Cheers,
David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57959 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 10:56 |
Vince Hradil
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On Jan 4, 12:23 pm, "Ryan." <rchug...@brutus.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 11:41 am, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Now for the first post - are you running in windows? You say it is a
>> valid path, I know, but are you sure you can point windows explorer
>> there and see the files? Is this a network path? Have you tried other
>> paths - say "c:\temp" - just to see if there is something going on
>> with the folder you want to use? Check to see if there is a
>> ".project" file in the folder and delete it, then retry the new
>> project.
>
> Yes, I am using Windows. The path I used was a network path but I
> tried to save it to put a local folder (C drive) but I get the same
> problem. I've tried two different folders on my C drive. I looked
> for ".project" files in the first folder but there wasn't any in
> there.
>
> There shouldn't be a problem if my Workspace folder is the same as the
> project folder right? (It's not, but I'm just curious to prevent any
> future mishaps)
> Is it possible that my Workspace folder being a network drive is
> messing it up?
>
> I am completely new to using Eclipse.
> Ryan.
Your workspace folder should NOT be the same as your project folder.
In fact, I get an error when I try that. I set up a workspace folder
on a network drive and created a new project from an existing folder
on a network drive - sorry I'm not getting the same errors. Are there
any "problems" in the Problems view?
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57963 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 10:23 |
Ryan.
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On Jan 4, 11:41 am, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Now for the first post - are you running in windows? You say it is a
> valid path, I know, but are you sure you can point windows explorer
> there and see the files? Is this a network path? Have you tried other
> paths - say "c:\temp" - just to see if there is something going on
> with the folder you want to use? Check to see if there is a
> ".project" file in the folder and delete it, then retry the new
> project.
Yes, I am using Windows. The path I used was a network path but I
tried to save it to put a local folder (C drive) but I get the same
problem. I've tried two different folders on my C drive. I looked
for ".project" files in the first folder but there wasn't any in
there.
There shouldn't be a problem if my Workspace folder is the same as the
project folder right? (It's not, but I'm just curious to prevent any
future mishaps)
Is it possible that my Workspace folder being a network drive is
messing it up?
I am completely new to using Eclipse.
Ryan.
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| Re: New IDL 7.0 Project Problem [message #57964 is a reply to message #57824] |
Fri, 04 January 2008 10:15 |
Paul Van Delst[1]
Messages: 1157
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David Fanning wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>
>> I find out that IDL 7 is not a stable version. I still use IDL 6.4 and
>> not understand why ITTVIS use Ellipse. It's better IF there are two
>> environments, one for ellipse, one for trandtional way. I hope ITTVIS
>> put his forcus on the data analysis and visualization techniques.
>
> This is total BS. You might not care for Eclipse (not Ellipse),
> but IDL is NOT unstable.
I think there may be semantic or language issues with the OP's first sentence above. With
apologies to the OP if I'm wrong, but I assumed English is not his first language and
interpreted his use of the word "stable" accordingly; i.e. I took it to mean something
like: "the learning curve for the IDL Workbench is going to interrupt my usual work flow."[*]
But, the provisional misstatement should be corrected -- as you did (all guns blazing! For
this newsgroup at least :o) -- for the record. Any blame for the non-intuitivity (is that
a word?) of Eclipse shouldn't be laid at IDL's door.
cheers,
paulv
[*] To say nothing of the generational (decadal? annual?) differences in the definition of
"stable". :o)
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