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Re: Pleasant Workbench Surprise [message #59572] Thu, 03 April 2008 10:27 Go to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001
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Paul van Delst writes:

> Now now... don't get too bent outta shape. You edited out my smiley - I was just pulling
> your proverbial.
>
> None too gently, apparently.
>
> In the future I will endeavour to not conflate my "just kidding!" and "what's so great
> about this Workbench thingy, then?" posts.

No, no. I thought you were just having a little
fun. But I am too old, apparently, to play three
hours of tennis of an evening and then still be
in a good mood in the morning. And it was a particularly
lame post on my part, but it had been bugging me,
and there the solution was in front of me all the time.
Embarrassing. So there was that... :-)

I'm just going to go chew a few more Ibuprofen.

Cheers,

David

--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming (www.dfanning.com)
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: Pleasant Workbench Surprise [message #59573 is a reply to message #59572] Thu, 03 April 2008 10:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Van Delst[1] is currently offline  Paul Van Delst[1]
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David Fanning wrote:
> Paul van Delst writes:
>
>> Crikey, David, I think all those years of Windows usage has led to too-low expectations.
>
> By the way, I don't write these articles because
> I'm fond of illustrating how ignorant I am. Let's just
> say, if you could read my e-mail in the morning you
> might have a better appreciation for how badly information,
> *any* information, is needed.
>
> I just figure if a motivated, interested user like me
> doesn't know it, there are probably others who don't know
> it either. My goal is to shed some light in the world.
> Those of you who want *useful* information should
> adjust their newsgroup filters appropriately. :-)

Now now... don't get too bent outta shape. You edited out my smiley - I was just pulling
your proverbial.

None too gently, apparently.

In the future I will endeavour to not conflate my "just kidding!" and "what's so great
about this Workbench thingy, then?" posts.

:o)

cheers,

paulv
Re: Pleasant Workbench Surprise [message #59574 is a reply to message #59573] Thu, 03 April 2008 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001
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Paul van Delst writes:

> Crikey, David, I think all those years of Windows usage has led to too-low expectations.

By the way, I don't write these articles because
I'm fond of illustrating how ignorant I am. Let's just
say, if you could read my e-mail in the morning you
might have a better appreciation for how badly information,
*any* information, is needed.

I just figure if a motivated, interested user like me
doesn't know it, there are probably others who don't know
it either. My goal is to shed some light in the world.
Those of you who want *useful* information should
adjust their newsgroup filters appropriately. :-)

Cheers,

David

P.S. Heretofore, I just plain ignored what was in the status
bar as so much useless space. I guess I'll have start paying more
attention to what's in there now, too. Where does it end? :-(
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming (www.dfanning.com)
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: Pleasant Workbench Surprise [message #59575 is a reply to message #59574] Thu, 03 April 2008 09:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001
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Paul van Delst writes:

> Crikey, David, I think all those years of Windows usage has led to too-low expectations.

I've really got to get out more. People think
giving up the day job and becoming a consultant is
great. But it's only great when its 10AM and you
are still playing tennis with your friends. Other
than that, it's pretty isolating. ;-)

Cheers,

David

--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming (www.dfanning.com)
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: Pleasant Workbench Surprise [message #59576 is a reply to message #59575] Thu, 03 April 2008 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Paul Van Delst[1] is currently offline  Paul Van Delst[1]
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David Fanning wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Here is something for the How-Come-I-Never-Saw-That-Before?
> file.
>
> One of the things that has annoyed me about the Workbench is
> that I am never sure where the file I am editing has come from.
> Is this the Coyote project version of the file, or my client
> version of the file?
>
> But I was just sitting here, thinking, staring into space
> and idling clicking on the editor tabs when I realized that
> for whatever file I am editing, its complete path name
> appears in the window title bar of the Workbench. Duh...

....or in the status bar in most editors.

Crikey, David, I think all those years of Windows usage has led to too-low expectations.

:o)

Working on my trunk and various branches in my subversion working copy, I can have one
editor session/window that has the same named-file opened but from different branches, or
the trunk (for times when I'm testing pre- or post-merge). The way to tell which file I'm
working on is via the editor status bar where the full path is given.

Same goes for my terminal windows. I have one X-window, but it contains several tabs (for
different branches; or for when I'm compiling and running f95 code in one tabbed session,
and displaying the results via IDL in another.)

I've been doing that for, crikey, nearly 8-9 years now on linux. Doesn't *every* OS offer
that sort of functionality? (I don't think Mac's do, but they have that handy fn-9 key
that "splays" out your desktop. Not ideal, but sufficient... and cool to watch :o).

cheers,

paulv
Re: Pleasant Workbench Surprise [message #59627 is a reply to message #59572] Fri, 04 April 2008 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
MarioIncandenza is currently offline  MarioIncandenza
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Hey!

I use EMACS+IDLWAVE, and I admit to finding myself adding a space and
saving the file so that I can see the full path. How can I have that
displayed on the window somewhere?

--Edward H.
Re: Pleasant Workbench Surprise [message #59704 is a reply to message #59576] Sun, 06 April 2008 14:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Mark[1] is currently offline  Mark[1]
Messages: 66
Registered: February 2008
Member
On Apr 4, 4:04 am, Paul van Delst <Paul.vanDe...@noaa.gov> wrote:
> Crikey, David, I think all those years of Windows usage has
> led to too-low expectations.
>
> I've been doing that for, crikey, nearly 8-9 years now on linux.
> Doesn't *every* OS offer that sort of functionality?

I don't want to sound defensive here, but these user-interface issues
have very little to do with the OS and, yes, there are several decent
text editors on Windows that display your path name in the title bar
or provide some other way that makes it easy to see what file you're
editing.

David was comparing the workbench with the old Windows IDLDE, which is
a little spartan. However it's still much better than the old Linux
IDLDE. So yah boo sucks to you, Linux boy!
Re: Pleasant Workbench Surprise [message #59713 is a reply to message #59627] Sat, 05 April 2008 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jschwab@gmail.com is currently offline  jschwab@gmail.com
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Registered: December 2006
Member
If you want to display the full path in the title bar, in your .emacs
add

(setq frame-title-format '("%f"))


If you just want to see what the path is

M-x eval-expression
buffer-file-name

will show you.

Josiah


On Apr 4, 3:11 pm, Ed Hyer <ejh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey!
>
> I use EMACS+IDLWAVE, and I admit to finding myself adding a space and
> saving the file so that I can see the full path. How can I have that
> displayed on the window somewhere?
>
> --Edward H.
Re: Pleasant Workbench Surprise [message #59821 is a reply to message #59704] Mon, 21 April 2008 00:21 Go to previous message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
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Registered: November 1998
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Mark schrieb:
> On Apr 4, 4:04 am, Paul van Delst <Paul.vanDe...@noaa.gov> wrote:
>> Crikey, David, I think all those years of Windows usage has
>> led to too-low expectations.
>>
>> I've been doing that for, crikey, nearly 8-9 years now on linux.
>> Doesn't *every* OS offer that sort of functionality?
>
> I don't want to sound defensive here, but these user-interface issues
> have very little to do with the OS and, yes, there are several decent
> text editors on Windows that display your path name in the title bar
> or provide some other way that makes it easy to see what file you're
> editing.
>
> David was comparing the workbench with the old Windows IDLDE, which is
> a little spartan. However it's still much better than the old Linux
> IDLDE. So yah boo sucks to you, Linux boy!
>

LOL
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