| Re: IDL PDF Book No Longer Available [message #60037] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 12:32 |
David Fanning
Messages: 11724
Registered: August 2001
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R.G. Stockwell writes:
> That is pretty awful. Perhaps you could try contact local
> tv reporters to raise a fuss and get a senator or congressman involved.
> And give Tom Martino a call - he will destroy those slimeballs for you.
Good advice, but, uh, they are in France (Europe). Not
sure Tom's reach is that long. :-)
Cheers,
David
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David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: IDL PDF Book No Longer Available [message #60039 is a reply to message #60037] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 11:43  |
R.G. Stockwell
Messages: 363
Registered: July 1999
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"David Fanning" <news@dfanning.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.227b94de33f5966098a33f@news.frii.com...
> Folks,
>
> Odd that we were talking about stealing books yesterday.
>
> This morning I learned that a French bookseller has
> purchased a single copy of my PDF book and is selling it
> on their web site (for about three times my price).
That is pretty awful. Perhaps you could try contact local
tv reporters to raise a fuss and get a senator or congressman involved.
And give Tom Martino a call - he will destroy those slimeballs for you.
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| Re: IDL PDF Book No Longer Available [message #60042 is a reply to message #60039] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 10:14 |
Jean H.
Messages: 472
Registered: July 2006
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David Fanning wrote:
> Folks,
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> Odd that we were talking about stealing books yesterday.
>
> This morning I learned that a French bookseller has
> purchased a single copy of my PDF book and is selling it
> on their web site (for about three times my price).
>
> I am afraid I have had to discontinue selling the PDF
> version of the book until I figure out what to do about
> this. Selling an electronic copy of the book was an
> experiment that involved a great deal of financial
> exposure on my part. I was worried something like this
> might happen. (Although, frankly, I didn't expect it
> from a bookseller. Blame it on naivety, I guess.)
>
> Stealing people's intellectual property turns out to
> have bad karma for everyone.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
sad...
we have the PDF version in our lab... we use it for about 10% at most of
its content (good book though!) and we would likely never have bought
the paper version... so at least, by making it available, you do get
more sales!
For your problem, look where the bookseller's website is hosted. You
could take action in this country too, which is likely the US.
here is the french law on copyrights.. (in french, of course):
http://www.copyrightfrance.com/hypertext/le_3_3.htm
On this website, they say that most problems are resolved off-court, by
paying a compensation and/or stopping the infraction. You may just write
to your bookseller, send him the french law along which talks about up
to 300 000 Euros of penalties and 3 years of jails... it might be enough
to scare the guy!
Jean
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| Re: IDL PDF Book No Longer Available [message #60046 is a reply to message #60042] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 07:47 |
Ryan.
Messages: 77
Registered: March 2006
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On Apr 25, 10:41 am, David Fanning <n...@dfanning.com> wrote:
> Unlikely. He contacted me to ask me to reset the
> links so he could download more books. I'm a chump, but
> I'm not a stupid chump. :-(
Wow. That's low.
Ryan.
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| Re: IDL PDF Book No Longer Available [message #60047 is a reply to message #60046] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 07:41 |
David Fanning
Messages: 11724
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Conor writes:
> Perhaps the reason
> why he was selling it for three times your price is because he planned
> to give you the full price of the book for each sale he made!
Unlikely. He contacted me to ask me to reset the
links so he could download more books. I'm a chump, but
I'm not a stupid chump. :-(
Cheers,
David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming: http://www.dfanning.com/
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
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| Re: IDL PDF Book No Longer Available [message #60048 is a reply to message #60047] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 07:40 |
Paul Van Delst[1]
Messages: 1157
Registered: April 2002
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David Fanning wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Odd that we were talking about stealing books yesterday.
>
> This morning I learned that a French bookseller has
> purchased a single copy of my PDF book and is selling it
> on their web site (for about three times my price).
Wha....?
Forgive my naivet�, but isn't that, um, illegal?
Have bureaucracies become so weighty that "temporary" theft (one presumes the French
authorities will eventually take action?) has become a regular business operating on margins?
Man.
> I am afraid I have had to discontinue selling the PDF
> version of the book until I figure out what to do about
> this. Selling an electronic copy of the book was an
> experiment that involved a great deal of financial
> exposure on my part. I was worried something like this
> might happen. (Although, frankly, I didn't expect it
> from a bookseller. Blame it on naivety, I guess.)
So, basically, unless you have an army of lawyers around the world to chase this stuff
down, you're screwed. Great.
Kurt Vonnegut was right - our brains are just waaaay too big for our own good.
paulv
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| Re: IDL PDF Book No Longer Available [message #60049 is a reply to message #60048] |
Fri, 25 April 2008 07:35 |
Conor
Messages: 138
Registered: February 2007
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On Apr 25, 10:13 am, David Fanning <n...@dfanning.com> wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Odd that we were talking about stealing books yesterday.
>
> This morning I learned that a French bookseller has
> purchased a single copy of my PDF book and is selling it
> on their web site (for about three times my price).
>
> I am afraid I have had to discontinue selling the PDF
> version of the book until I figure out what to do about
> this. Selling an electronic copy of the book was an
> experiment that involved a great deal of financial
> exposure on my part. I was worried something like this
> might happen. (Although, frankly, I didn't expect it
> from a bookseller. Blame it on naivety, I guess.)
>
> Stealing people's intellectual property turns out to
> have bad karma for everyone.
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
> --
> David Fanning, Ph.D.
> Fanning Software Consulting, Inc.
> Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming:http://www.dfanning.com/
> Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
It's always one bad apple that ruins the bunch :( Perhaps the reason
why he was selling it for three times your price is because he planned
to give you the full price of the book for each sale he made! Has he
sent you any royalties yet? (lol, yeah right!)
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