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Re: painful IDL 7 online help [message #60834] Fri, 20 June 2008 08:32 Go to next message
Vince Hradil is currently offline  Vince Hradil
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On Jun 20, 9:45 am, LC's No-Spam Newsreading account
<nos...@mi.iasf.cnr.it> wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, David Fanning wrote:
>> You can select any number of other browser options, including using an
>> internal browser, I think. Anyway, worth a try.
>
> I saw some notes about "Solaris and some Linux versions not supporting
> an internal browser" (but I wouldn't be able to retrieve them, it is
> really too painful to navigate the help with one window coming up at
> each click)
>
>> You can find the Web Browser preference under the General Preference
>> tab in Preferences.
>
> Preferences OF WHAT ?
> I assume you do not mean firefox Preferences.
>
> And the (first) help window which comes out invoking "?" has no
> Preferences link at all.
>
> Note I type "?" in the linemode client (the script
> /lnx/idl/idl70/bin/idl on our system, or the process with executable
> /lnx/idl/idl70/bin/bin.linux.x86/idl).
>
> The linemode client, not the development environment (which I never use)
>
> No setup one can place in STARTUP.pro or in an .Xdefaults file ?
>
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No, he means eclipse preferences:
Window->Preferences->General->Web Browser
Re: painful IDL 7 online help [message #60837 is a reply to message #60834] Fri, 20 June 2008 07:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LC's No-Spam Newsread[1] is currently offline  LC's No-Spam Newsread[1]
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, David Fanning wrote:

> You can select any number of other browser options, including using an
> internal browser, I think. Anyway, worth a try.

I saw some notes about "Solaris and some Linux versions not supporting
an internal browser" (but I wouldn't be able to retrieve them, it is
really too painful to navigate the help with one window coming up at
each click)

> You can find the Web Browser preference under the General Preference
> tab in Preferences.

Preferences OF WHAT ?
I assume you do not mean firefox Preferences.

And the (first) help window which comes out invoking "?" has no
Preferences link at all.

Note I type "?" in the linemode client (the script
/lnx/idl/idl70/bin/idl on our system, or the process with executable
/lnx/idl/idl70/bin/bin.linux.x86/idl).

The linemode client, not the development environment (which I never use)


No setup one can place in STARTUP.pro or in an .Xdefaults file ?


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Re: painful IDL 7 online help [message #60839 is a reply to message #60837] Fri, 20 June 2008 05:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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> My environment is Linux Suse 9.2, and I use fvwm as window manager (with
> two desktops with four workspaces each). Incidentally I have configured
> the window manager so that my web browser (firefox) always opens in a
> dedicated workspace.

You can select any number of other browser options,
including using an internal browser, I think. Anyway,
worth a try. You can find the Web Browser preference
under the General Preference tab in Preferences.

Cheers,

David
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Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: painful IDL 7 online help [message #60840 is a reply to message #60839] Fri, 20 June 2008 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Peter Clinch is currently offline  Peter Clinch
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LC's No-Spam Newsreading account wrote:

> I find that accessing the online help interface ( ? command) has become
> extremely painful.
>
> My environment is Linux Suse 9.2, and I use fvwm as window manager (with
> two desktops with four workspaces each). Incidentally I have configured
> the window manager so that my web browser (firefox) always opens in a
> dedicated workspace.
>
> And of course I usually run idl in another (any other) workspace.
>
> In the past when I typed ? command in my idl session (runtime "idl"
> command, no development environment !) it opened an online help window
> in the same workspace. Now the help window is opened in the firefox
> workspace. This is painful enough.

FWIW, in SuSE 10.2 using Gnome it's a non-issue: help opens in the
workspace I'm using for IDL, whichever one that is.

> What is more painful is that each time I click on a link in the help
> pages, they open a new window each time.

And that doesn't happen to me either, links not opening new windows. So
i's not a general linux or IDL 7 problem, probably something more
explicit in your particular setup.

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Re: painful IDL 7 online help [message #60948 is a reply to message #60834] Mon, 23 June 2008 14:46 Go to previous message
JD Smith is currently offline  JD Smith
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On Jun 20, 11:32 am, Vince Hradil <hrad...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 20, 9:45 am, LC's No-Spam Newsreading account
>
>
>
> <nos...@mi.iasf.cnr.it> wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Jun 2008, David Fanning wrote:
>>> You can select any number of other browser options, including using an
>>> internal browser, I think. Anyway, worth a try.
>
>> I saw some notes about "Solaris and some Linux versions not supporting
>> an internal browser" (but I wouldn't be able to retrieve them, it is
>> really too painful to navigate the help with one window coming up at
>> each click)
>
>>> You can find the Web Browser preference under the General Preference
>>> tab in Preferences.
>
>> Preferences OF WHAT ?
>> I assume you do not mean firefox Preferences.
>
>> And the (first) help window which comes out invoking "?" has no
>> Preferences link at all.
>
>> Note I type "?" in the linemode client (the script
>> /lnx/idl/idl70/bin/idl on our system, or the process with executable
>> /lnx/idl/idl70/bin/bin.linux.x86/idl).
>
>> The linemode client, not the development environment (which I never use)
>
>> No setup one can place in STARTUP.pro or in an .Xdefaults file ?
>
>> --
>> ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------
>> nos...@mi.iasf.cnr.it is a newsreading account used by more persons to
>> avoid unwanted spam. Any mail returning to this address will be rejected.
>> Users can disclose their e-mail address in the article if they wish so.
>
> No, he means eclipse preferences:
> Window->Preferences->General->Web Browser

OSX users are stuck with the external browser. It's fast and the
content looks reasonable, but it opens a new tab or window every time
help is invoked, and gets lost in a sea of other browser windows, with
no easy way to find it. Not ideal; I'll stick with the 6.X help for a
while.

JD
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