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Re: IDL on openSUSE [message #65332] Fri, 27 February 2009 08:32 Go to next message
Conor is currently offline  Conor
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On Feb 27, 3:48 am, Reimar Bauer <R.Ba...@fz-juelich.de> wrote:
> Nigel Wade schrieb:
>
>> I'm currently in the process of setting up a new analysis computer which
>> requires IDL. I had hoped to use CentOS (RedHat) 5.2, because that's what I'm
>> used to and I know IDL works.
>
>> However, the installation is proving troublesome because the CentOS/RedHat
>> installer doesn't like the graphics card/monitor combination, so I have to
>> install in text mode. This makes configuring the disks as LVM on RAID rather,
>> how shall I put it, bothersome.
>
>> I've tried an OpenSUSE installer and that doesn't appear to have any problems
>> with the graphics/monitor and provides a nice installation setup. But I have no
>> experience of using IDL on OpenSUSE. So, has anyone every tried using IDL on
>> OpenSUSE (specifically 64bit)? Does it work? Are there any gotchas I need to be
>> aware of?
>
> yeah I have and do play a bit with idl7.0.3.
>
> Most of us do use idl 6.4 and we decided to wait for 7.1. Some of us
> believes that there was no major improvement since 6.2 for our work
> based on idl. While we all the time payed lots of money. (Well we forced
> them to upgrade netCDF)
>
> Don't talk about installing of idl. It is since years only copying.
>
> As a major improvement instead of extending libs for us I would also
> accept that they provide deb and rpm packages which can be easily
> installed and updated.
>
> If you follow other threads on this list you will see lot's of problems
> which are based on incompatible libs. A package installer will tell
> these problems beforehand. Or it will hold back updates until those
> problems were fixed.
>
> cheers
> Reimar

Where I work the vast majority of the machines are running on
openSuse. Also, just about everyone uses IDL (6.4), with no trouble.
Of course I wasn't the one that installed IDL on all of these
computers, so I can't tell you if there were any gotcha's there.
Certainly though running it is trouble free, and has been for many
years.
Re: IDL on openSUSE [message #65344 is a reply to message #65332] Fri, 27 February 2009 00:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
R.Bauer is currently offline  R.Bauer
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Registered: November 1998
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Nigel Wade schrieb:
> I'm currently in the process of setting up a new analysis computer which
> requires IDL. I had hoped to use CentOS (RedHat) 5.2, because that's what I'm
> used to and I know IDL works.
>
> However, the installation is proving troublesome because the CentOS/RedHat
> installer doesn't like the graphics card/monitor combination, so I have to
> install in text mode. This makes configuring the disks as LVM on RAID rather,
> how shall I put it, bothersome.
>
> I've tried an OpenSUSE installer and that doesn't appear to have any problems
> with the graphics/monitor and provides a nice installation setup. But I have no
> experience of using IDL on OpenSUSE. So, has anyone every tried using IDL on
> OpenSUSE (specifically 64bit)? Does it work? Are there any gotchas I need to be
> aware of?
>

yeah I have and do play a bit with idl7.0.3.

Most of us do use idl 6.4 and we decided to wait for 7.1. Some of us
believes that there was no major improvement since 6.2 for our work
based on idl. While we all the time payed lots of money. (Well we forced
them to upgrade netCDF)

Don't talk about installing of idl. It is since years only copying.

As a major improvement instead of extending libs for us I would also
accept that they provide deb and rpm packages which can be easily
installed and updated.

If you follow other threads on this list you will see lot's of problems
which are based on incompatible libs. A package installer will tell
these problems beforehand. Or it will hold back updates until those
problems were fixed.


cheers
Reimar
Re: IDL on openSUSE [message #65352 is a reply to message #65344] Thu, 26 February 2009 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
David Fanning is currently offline  David Fanning
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Registered: August 2001
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Nigel Wade writes:

> I've tried an OpenSUSE installer and that doesn't appear to have any problems
> with the graphics/monitor and provides a nice installation setup. But I have no
> experience of using IDL on OpenSUSE. So, has anyone every tried using IDL on
> OpenSUSE (specifically 64bit)? Does it work? Are there any gotchas I need to be
> aware of?

Most of us here have elected to stay with KDE 3.x on
our SUSE installations because of unbelievably weird
problems with KDE 4 that comes with the latest SUSE
versions. The problems appear to be in KDE, not in
SUSE.

Cheers,

David
--
David Fanning, Ph.D.
Coyote's Guide to IDL Programming (www.dfanning.com)
Sepore ma de ni thui. ("Perhaps thou speakest truth.")
Re: IDL on openSUSE [message #65400 is a reply to message #65332] Mon, 02 March 2009 02:13 Go to previous message
Nigel Wade is currently offline  Nigel Wade
Messages: 286
Registered: March 1998
Senior Member
cmancone@gmail.com wrote:

> On Feb 27, 3:48 am, Reimar Bauer <R.Ba...@fz-juelich.de> wrote:
>> Nigel Wade schrieb:
>>
>>> I'm currently in the process of setting up a new analysis computer which
>>> requires IDL. I had hoped to use CentOS (RedHat) 5.2, because that's what
I'm
>>> used to and I know IDL works.
>>
>>> However, the installation is proving troublesome because the CentOS/RedHat
>>> installer doesn't like the graphics card/monitor combination, so I have to
>>> install in text mode. This makes configuring the disks as LVM on RAID
rather,
>>> how shall I put it, bothersome.
>>
>>> I've tried an OpenSUSE installer and that doesn't appear to have any
problems
>>> with the graphics/monitor and provides a nice installation setup. But I
have no
>>> experience of using IDL on OpenSUSE. So, has anyone every tried using IDL
on
>>> OpenSUSE (specifically 64bit)? Does it work? Are there any gotchas I need
to be
>>> aware of?
>>
>> yeah I have and do play a bit with idl7.0.3.
>>
>> Most of us do use idl 6.4 and we decided to wait for 7.1. Some of us
>> believes that there was no major improvement since 6.2 for our work
>> based on idl. While we all the time payed lots of money. (Well we forced
>> them to upgrade netCDF)
>>
>> Don't talk about installing of idl. It is since years only copying.
>>
>> As a major improvement instead of extending libs for us I would also
>> accept that they provide deb and rpm packages which can be easily
>> installed and updated.
>>
>> If you follow other threads on this list you will see lot's of problems
>> which are based on incompatible libs. A package installer will tell
>> these problems beforehand. Or it will hold back updates until those
>> problems were fixed.
>>
>> cheers
>> Reimar
>
> Where I work the vast majority of the machines are running on
> openSuse. Also, just about everyone uses IDL (6.4), with no trouble.
> Of course I wasn't the one that installed IDL on all of these
> computers, so I can't tell you if there were any gotcha's there.
> Certainly though running it is trouble free, and has been for many
> years.

Ok, thanks everyone.

It looks like Gnome desktop is the way to go then. I didn't know there were
particular problems with KDE 4 (I use KDE 3.5 on RedHat on my desktop). In the
past I've generally found the KDE has been more reliable, but also more
annoying. I suppose it's progress to expect that KDE would catch up with Gnome
and Windows in its "feature" list...

I don't envision using the IDE (Ecplise). We are die-hard IDL command-line,
direct graphics, users here. iTools has never darkened our doorstep, and using
graphics objects is a mystical and highly suspect "dark art" - that part of the
manual still carries the "Here be Dragons" warning.

However, we do have a lot of external code and I need to decide whether to build
it 32bit or 64bit. That will probably depend which version of IDL I can get
working.

--
Nigel Wade
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